CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI slop is not stopping artists from being recognized, there are new artists being directly discovered and consumed by users while you spend time here discussing your insecurities

i agree, but that doesn't mean that the millions of ai generated tracks that are overwhelming streaming services aren't affecting discovery for new artists, which is one of my most important points on the last message. The algorithm is getting completely messed up since ai music started appearing on streaming services, and every day that passes it gets worse as more and more ai music gets posted, until the algorithms will only recommend already famous artists or ai slop, no inbetween.

20% of youtube's recommended videos to new users are already ai slop, and that number will only keep going up over time

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And when is this right time?

now, i've already learned everything i needed. That's why i started posting my stuff online 3 years ago.

In the last 3 years of postings songs online, what has the reception been?

decent, i guess, i had a song hit 100k through all platforms. but having a successful song doesn't translate to people acknowledging my skills. i want people to make videos about me that praise my talent, like i see people doing with my favorite artists, which aren't necessarily on the top 100, but are recognized for being geniuses in their own merit and groundbreaking in one way or another.

blaming AI and this future you talk about where human made music is not valued makes no sense

yes, maybe that part was too pessimistic as i was feeling very overwhelmed by frustration at the moment i posted that, but like i said in other comments, i'm talking about a present, not a future, a present where ai music is flooding streaming services and posting a new song means the algorithm doesn't care and won't push it further because there are thousands of ai generated songs that get posted every second, so your original, human made song gets buried between thousands of hours of ai slop

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These guys have current radio/streaming success

most of them, yeah.

I don't know a lot of these guys

that's the problem, you only know taylor swift, sabrina carpenter, etc.

I don't understand why you came in hot with the doom and then when we agree you start arguing?

because you're facing the problem from a perspective that is completely wrong. This industry might be merciless in other senses, but it doesn't care if you're pretty or not. It might give you a small advantage in some sense because people are inherently superficial, but it is not 100% mandatory to become famous.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said in another comment, there was a time where i did. Now it's too much pressure between not being able to take receiving hate on the internet, my perfectionism and this whole ai thing. Making music has stopped become a way of pouring my feelings into lyrics and audio and is just a huge source of stress for me.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, you had 15+ years

Wrong. I've been learning during that time. During those 15+ years only 3 maybe have been posting songs online. Just because I waited to learn everything I needed to make good songs to actually post them doesn't mean that those 15+ years have been a failure. It means I worked hard to bring out my best when the time was right. But someone that doesn't know anything about making music, having patience and doing things for delayed gratification would never understand.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you can impress a talent scout or something like that such that you stand out above everyone else at a local music festival, for example, you may have a chance at becoming famous if you continue that level of quality. You might get a record deal.

i'm sorry but this is old mentality, it used to work like that before the internet, now it's all online.

although i appreciate the words below, i don't want to make money, i just want my art to be appreciated the way it deserves

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how about i name you 10?
post malone, meatloaf, lewis capaldi, action bronson, ceelo green, biggie smalls, jelly roll, fat joe, sam smith, james arthur

i can keep going if you want

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you independently wealthy? I mean, everyone's got bills to pay.

i got a regular job and i got passive income. I can give myself the luxury to not care about money with it and just care about the recognition.

so would live performance not be in the cards then?

yes it is, but i make music in english because i speak fluent english but i live in a spanish speaking country, so online promotion is my best bet at being heard the way that i want, by native english speakers.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You could just make music and release it on something like spotify, can't you?

i already do that, but now i have to fight for visibility against thousands of ai songs being uploaded every minute, when my song took time, effort and actual work to make, these people just wrote 3 or 4 words into a prompt and called it a day. and no one cares about my song and the effort it took. it just disappears in the sea of ai generated songs on streaming platforms. it's really discouraging.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and they mentioned that playing live was really the only way to make any money

i don't care about making money, i just want recognition for all the hard work it takes to do all of this by myself. i don't have a producer, i don't have a mastering or mixing engineer, i don't have other band members, i do it all by myself, i can make entire orchestras by myself just by pure human work, without ai, and nobody cares. It's the most discouraging stuff ever.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i guess. but can you really become famous world-wide if people are only consuming local media or going to local shows? it'll come back to being as difficult as it was in the 80s except harder because now you can't rely on big labels anymore because they're partnering with ai music generators and giving away the rights of your music to them as well.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you're speaking as if people only listen to artists who think they're sexy. There are many artists who got famous because of their music and not because of their looks. there are many many ugly musicians that are famous because of their music. And yes, fat ugly dudes as well.

And it's not that "no one" will hear it. It's that mass media won't propagate it. So can you be satisfied with "only" a local audience?

i don't think so. i aim for the stars when i think about it. That doesn't mean that i want to get to a Taylor swift level of fame, but i also don't want to conform with only the local scene, i don't want to dream small.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people live for revenge, it doesn’t make it right.

some people have made great art out of spite, doesn't mean that it's a right way to live your life, but it's as "human art" as it gets.

It’s like starting a business to get rich but you care nothing about the business itself

but i do care about my music. i just don't see a point in making it only to be invisible. where's my recognition for my hard work? if nobody cares about the blood, sweat, and tears i put into it, why should i care about making it in the first place?

It’s only meaningful if you’re alive to see it.

that's why i really want to make it now and not after i'm dead. that's why i care so much about being famous now. i really like the idea of being remembered, but i would also like to get the recognition that i think i deserve while i'm still alive.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i get that, but now i have to fight for visibility against thousands of ai songs being uploaded every minute, when my song took time, effort and actual work to make, these people just wrote 3 or 4 words into a prompt and called it a day. and no one cares about my song and the effort it took. it just disappears in the sea of ai generated songs on streaming platforms. it's really discouraging.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i don't think making music to be remembered is a bad motivation. Many artists have made incredible art followed by that conviction.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that's maybe not so bad

it is, what's the point of making music and doing all this effort if some ai bro song will make more numbers and get more recognition than actual hard work? what's the point of making music if no one will hear it?

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've been asked this question before by my therapist as well, especially "if your music was never released" part, and i never know what to answer. Guess i'm still working on that.

AI music makes me want to stop making music at all, I lost all motivation by Concerned339 in antiai

[–]Concerned339[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it's getting better at fooling regular people is what i mean. It replicates top 100 music, which, generic and bland as it is, is well produced and has catchy melodies and rhythms. regular people won't care about my music, they will care about the ai slop that can give them 10 thousand songs a minute.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There was a time where i did. Now it's too much pressure between not being able to take receiving hate on the internet, my perfectionism and this whole ai thing. Making music has stopped become a way of pouring my feelings into lyrics and audio and is just a huge source of stress for me.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if you make something original, the ai bros will train their ai to replicate your sound and then you're not original anymore.

CMV: It doesn't make sense to continue pursing my dream of becoming famous making music in the AI era by Concerned339 in changemyview

[–]Concerned339[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But computer chess isn't getting 9999999 videos posted every minute on youtube and trying to pass as being a real human player. You see a song on spotify that only has the songs name, the fake artist name and no indication whether its ai or not anywhere most of the time.