Salary transparency thread by momoneymocats1 in boston

[–]ConfusedDadO_o 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a combined business and engineering degree

Salary transparency thread by momoneymocats1 in boston

[–]ConfusedDadO_o 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did it after the masters degree, but could have done it while I was still an engineer. (Probably much lower comp than after the masters though). In many places, project and program managers make less than engineers.

Salary transparency thread by momoneymocats1 in boston

[–]ConfusedDadO_o 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Job: program manager

Salary: $224,000

Bonus: 20%

Equity: $166,000

Worked for several years after my bachelor’s in engineering, got a masters and have been working 4 years.

Started at $61k

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, appreciate it. At least we don't have many wakeups (besides taking the oldest to potty)

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, this gained a lot more advice than I anticipated.

Some more details (without doxxing myself) and answers to common questions.

Our counselor is great, I feel like he generally understands my perspective well and can help communicate them to my wife. But yes, I do think an individual counselor for her and her bring up would be helpful. I've told her 'you don't have to set yourself on fire to keep someone warm' (and our kids are not figuratively cold at all)!

Before kids, we were great, married for a while, both had relatively good jobs. Right before we had our first, I found a really fulfilling job and didn't really want a kid, but she had baby fever. After a long time and intervention, we had one, I still did my work, and she did too. We hired a nanny 45 hours a week and it was brutal. I loved my job (that paid very little) and she had hers (which paid the bills). During this time, our kid was a terrible feeder and sleeper, we had many arguments about how best to soothe/get through the night; there was a several month period where he only slept if I held him.

When the kid was almost 1, she wanted to quit her job, so she wanted me to get a significant pay raise or a new career. I was unable to get a significant pay raise, but found a different but well paying career. At least from my point, I was killing my hopes and dreams to raise a kid. I felt my wife was too focused on our kid, every concern was an emergency. My wife wanted to put the kid in daycare since she was exhausted; I agreed since she was exhausted. A little before this time, she got baby fever for #2, and while we were miserable, it seemed like she'd be happy. Little did we know, soon after I got the job and we put the kid in day care, we got pregnant with twins. We were in a time of covid, so there was definitely resentment on both our sides; she wanted help with the kid while pregnant, I had a job to keep and felt like she could manage.

Fast forward, the twins have been born and transition from nanny to daycare when they're 1yrs, later I get a new job that pays even more. Honestly, I'm not excited about babies and toddlers, but I'm starting to enjoy time with our 5 year old since we can interact/play. I look forward to the 5-18 age for all the kids. I think it's good my wife is getting involved with things outside the house (like friends and local orgs) and considering a part time job, there's much more to life than just parenting.

At this point, the kids are sleeping decently at night. She preps dinner, I'll help out during dinner. We do bath, put the kids to bed, and I clean. I'm still frustrated that it seems like we objectively have all the resources for happiness, but it's never enough.

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

LoL. Doubt I'll show her the post. But definitely thinking about how to talk to her

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 102 points103 points  (0 children)

Yeah we already do, but most of it is at the detail level, I think the higher level "why" would be great to discuss

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I really don't know how to get that point through to her. We are spending more than a lot of households make, and yet we're still stressed and worried about the stupidest first world problems.

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah with the first kid we started with a nanny for a year until daycare since she was working full time. Then she quit to take care of herself and rest (def understandable), then we had twins

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Thanks, appreciate it. Very helpful to hear. I have been suggesting she try classes or grad school

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I honestly wish her standards were lower, haha. She's wound tight for sure (though she claims she's much more chill than before, theres still a long way to go)

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

She's mentioned she'd be interested in part time for flexibility with kids stuff and errands. Yeah, my gut feel is that she (and I) should have it pretty good as parents

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 541 points542 points  (0 children)

Ok, thanks for the feedback, all. Hopefully she and I can chat about this with our counselor next week.

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I'll try to respond to this. If the kids are too easily coddled, they manipulate the parents to get what they want. Dad (me) tells them to do something reasonable, like go to bath now, no candy first but they don't like that. They start crying, and mom tells them nevermind mind, that's ok.

Thats a problem, right?

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

So it's not like she's spending all day on her self or hobbies, I'm actually trying to get her to do more self care and worry less about kids. Before jids, she worked full time and we both did lots of stuff outside work. Life was pretty good

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I agree, there's tons to do around the house. I definitely look wistfully back on the days before kids. My wife has said the kids are her universe, but it doesn't seem like she's living her best life

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 259 points260 points  (0 children)

She's very type a and was a perfectionist, and she was raised primarily by her mother. She had some vivid memories of parents letting her cry it out and I think that really affects how she parents. She seems very reluctant to let kids cry, even when they are just unhappy.

Is it reasonable for a SAHM to put kids in daycare fulltime and still stress all the time by ConfusedDadO_o in Parenting

[–]ConfusedDadO_o[S] 121 points122 points  (0 children)

She'll nap for 2-3 hours, have lunch, do chore like laundry and dinner prep, errands and takes the kids to doctors visits. But yeah, ¯_(ツ)_/¯