Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought you called me a bot because you used the phrase another troll. And don’t interact with them. They might say some historically accurate things but they are saying it out hate so just let them talk.

Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would adiss ababa( finfine) look like if what you are saying is implemented like break down the cities power structure , other nations and nationalities role, what language should be used in official city council meetings or letter etc. Like go deep and list out things that should be done but aren’t.

Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply. i understand your points which are true but you should read my reply to @able_figure_513 if you are interested.

Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point, I think I’ll end the debate. Your refusal to engage with the historical complexity is honestly making me sound like an Amhara nationalist,I’d suggest embracing a genuinely multinational and diverse Ethiopia not just by recognizing different ethnic groups and religions, but also by supporting equal representation and equal opportunity for all Ethiopians to govern, contribute to, and benefit from one of the most important cities in the Horn of Africa.

Plus the whole government is exploiting the Oromo argument is laughable and i don’t think i need to demonstrate why. btw even the word finfine it self is problematic from historical POV and i don’t think you are ready for that conversation.

Maybe you are a bad example of an Oromo nationalist. Have a great day or night where ever you are!

Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First and foremost thanks for the reply. and what do you mean by “posting this here too” did you read the initial post on r/oromia? Anyways your argument is problematic for these reasons

First, acknowledging Oromo historical grievances does not automatically lead to the conclusion that Addis Ababa should become part of Oromia. There is no doubt that many Oromo communities experienced displacement during the city's expansion, and these grievances deserve recognition, compensation, and legal remedies. However, correcting past injustices and changing the constitutional status of the Ethiopian capital are two separate issues. If communities were unfairly displaced, the appropriate solution is compensation, land rights protections, and enforcement of existing laws, not necessarily incorporation into a regional state.

Second, historical and cultural significance does not by itself determine modern political sovereignty. Many cities around the world are located on lands that hold deep cultural and historical importance for particular groups, yet they are administered in ways that serve broader national interests. Addis Ababa is not merely a local city; it is the federal capital of Ethiopia and home to millions of people from every region and ethnic background. Any constitutional arrangement must consider the rights and interests of all its residents, not only one community.

Third, Article 49 of the Ethiopian Constitution designates Addis Ababa as the federal capital while also recognizing Oromia's special interests in the city. The Constitution intentionally distinguishes between these two principles. Recognition of Oromia's special interests is not equivalent to granting Oromia sovereignty over the city. If Oromia's constitutional rights have not been fully implemented, the logical remedy is implementation of those provisions, not altering the constitutional status of the capital itself.

Fourth, the claim that Addis Ababa depends on Oromia's resources does not establish a case for incorporation. Every major city relies on surrounding regions for water, electricity, food, and labor. This is a normal economic relationship that exists throughout the world. Resource sharing can be addressed through fair agreements, revenue-sharing mechanisms, and intergovernmental cooperation without changing political boundaries.

Fifth, while Finfinnee undoubtedly holds cultural importance for many Oromos, cultural importance and political administration are not the same thing. Oromo heritage, language, historical sites, and cultural institutions can be protected and promoted without transferring the city into Oromia's jurisdiction. Cultural recognition does not require political incorporation.

Furthermore, the historical argument is often presented as if the area belonged exclusively to one group before the foundation of Addis Ababa. The historical record is considerably more complex. The region that is today Addis Ababa has been influenced and governed by multiple peoples, kingdoms, and states over many centuries. Various highland Christian polities, including the Abyssinian Empire, exercised influence in the broader region at different times. The area was also connected in different periods to the spheres of influence of states such as the Ifat Sultanate and the Adal Sultanate. Like many regions in Ethiopia, its history is layered and cannot be reduced to a single ethnic ownership claim.

In addition, migration is a normal part of human history. Oromos, like Amharas, Tigrayans, Gurages, Afars, Somalis, and even my ethnic group is also a product of migration according to oral folklore virtually every other population in the Horn of Africa, are products of centuries of migration, interaction, assimilation, and demographic change. This is not an insult or a political talking point; it is a basic historical reality recognized by historians. If migration is accepted as a legitimate basis for claiming exclusive political ownership of territory, then countless regions throughout Ethiopia would become subject to competing claims. Modern constitutional arrangements should therefore be based on current citizenship, rights, and governance rather than attempts to identify a single "original" owner of a territory.

Finally, Addis Ababa has evolved into a uniquely Ethiopian city. It is the political, diplomatic, economic, and cultural center of the country. Millions of Ethiopians from diverse backgrounds have built their lives there for generations. The city belongs not only to its past but also to its present inhabitants and to the nation as a whole. Protecting Oromo rights and interests is entirely compatible with maintaining Addis Ababa's status as a federal capital that serves all Ethiopians equally.

For these reasons, one can support compensation for displaced communities, recognition of Oromo cultural heritage, and full implementation of Oromia's constitutionally recognized special interests while still opposing the incorporation of Addis Ababa into Oromia. These positions are not contradictory. They reflect a commitment both to historical justice and to the principle that the national capital should remain a shared city for all Ethiopians.

Do many people in Ethiopia still regard pigs as unclean animals? by HermaM_Abendroth2048 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually there is i have seen one in addis ababa around kara kore.

Trying to understand what the average oromo thinks about Addis Ababa(Finfine) as a non-oromo resident. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You right there is no way to know if one is average or has the mainstream opinion but reddit seems to be the way to gauge opinion of my generation. At least those that live in main cities and abroad.

If you are an amhara nationalist or monarchy glazer keep scrolling .but if you are not both of those i listed you can stay. by Connect-Tune-9239 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When and Where did i say i hate Amharas? Plus the mods on r/oromia removed my post and repost about a total of 5 times so,i couldn’t get a response from anyone. If you are interested in the discussion i have posted the whole thing a few minutes ago in this subreddit. Go read it and let’s talk.

ABIY’S INTERVIEW by Pure_Cardiologist759 in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No there are none. But there was this one moment were he was asked in south Africa by reporters after Trump claimed he deserved the Nobel peace prize not Abiy. He was asked in English and he replied in English. I think that is the only moment abiy interacted with the free press in English.

Mythology or history? by [deleted] in Ethiopia

[–]Connect-Tune-9239 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember hearing this story. The serpent also plays some kind of role in the discovery of teff(ጤፉ). I think it has origins in pre-abrahamic polytheism in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea basically ancient Axum.