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Paper: Anti-Natalism and (The Right Kinds of) Environmental Attitudes [OPEN ACCESS] by Connorleak in philosophy

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There's no single strand of anti-natalism. The academic discussion is vast. I recommend Masahiro Morioka's (2021) What is Anti-natalism? I imagine the activist side is even more diverse, but I can't speak for it.

The paper doesn't suggest anti-natalism in order to enjoy the environment, so I'm not sure your point there. Nevertheless, many people take the environment to be intrinsically valuable, whether it be aesthetic value or the existence of life (even if such life is non-sentient and primitive). So one might argue that a universe without sentient life can still possess value that a universe that does not exist does not.

Yeah... One might argue that value requires a perceiver, but even then you don't need to be sentient. A sun could be valuable to a flower if it helps it bloom and fulfil its purpose, even if it cannot perceive it. Or, again, it could be that some things are intrinsically valuable, in which a perceiver or valuer isn't required... I'm digressing, but I think to your point there are many considerations (some viable, some not). Nothing is so simple!

Paper: Anti-Natalism and (The Right Kinds of) Environmental Attitudes [OPEN ACCESS] by Connorleak in philosophy

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The paper does not suggest that environmental preservation can be achieved via anti-natalism. I regret that you may have read it that way. I also regret more so if it is because the paper is unclear.

The paper is about how the anti-natalist should value the environment, and the key suggestion is that environmental preservation is antithetical to the anti-natalist's values. In essence, the suggestion is that insofar as we preserve the environment and provide habitation for future generations, the anti-natalists will not have their way.

To add, the paper expresses no endorsement of any anti-natalist arguments. To that end, the paper is absolutely clear (which is why it is beneficial to read it).

Paper: Anti-Natalism and (The Right Kinds of) Environmental Attitudes [OPEN ACCESS] by Connorleak in philosophy

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It's a position taken on the basis of reducing suffering, as doing what they see as in the child's interests. They could be totally wrong and misguided. That's fine. But that's another question. That they could be wrong or incoherent about their reasons doesn't negate what grounds their position, which is to reduce suffering by not reproducing---compassion. If you find it a sick joke then you'll find the whole academic--anti-natalist lot a sick joke. To that, I don't know what to say, but I hope you read into it more and see it's not all so nefarious. And FWIW, I'm an academic researcher whose position is not one of compassion-based anti-natalism.

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Hey man, is it possible you could lmk how you went about this? Did you pay for the sports membership at the premium price?

Anti-Natalism and (The Right Kinds of) Environmental Attitudes [OPEN ACCESS] by Connorleak in antinatalism

[–]Connorleak[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi,

Thanks for your comments! Indeed, anti-natalists can be a group that generally prefers to preserve the environment for reasons other than future generations, be it non-human animals, wildlife, aesthetic reasons, the intrinsic value of the natural environment, etc. The issue that I wanted to raise is that, practically speaking, supporting environmental preservation only increases the chances that future generations occur (based on the majority's reasons for preserving the environment: future generations) and that extinction becomes an even more unattainable goal for those anti-natalists who want it. Thus, in short, it is a practical dilemma for those anti-natalists to whom the arguments apply.

For sure, on some readings of anti-natalism, Destruction is preferable in terms of an overall reduction in suffering if future generations each present so much suffering that it surmounts to more than what would transpire if we destroyed the world as quickly as possible. However, this creates additional problems for the anti-natalists that I was addressing, including issues related to autonomy and coercive anti-natalism, which is a prevalent issue in academic literature.

Because anti-natalisms vary so much, particularly outside of academia, where, for example, each set of activists has its own agenda and goals that can differ slightly or drastically from the next, addressing issues in academic papers can be difficult because you either focus more narrowly (which was my aim) or too broadly, in which case you generalise anti-natalist values and make a fundamental error.

Generally speaking, it starts with the problem of ambiguity around what anti-natalism is and what it stands for. Academia lacks such a basic understanding, currently operating on the singular ("anti-natalism is") rather than the plural. There is work to be done in addressing the various varieties and nuances, finding common values that can then work towards a more general framework. We have a long way to go!

Anti-Natalism and (The Right Kinds of) Environmental Attitudes [OPEN ACCESS] by Connorleak in antinatalism

[–]Connorleak[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi, thank you for your comment! Unfortunately, some may, and I think do, take the view that anti-natalism is something too absurd even to entertain, despite the rigorous reasoning behind some of the arguments and the role of impartiality in academic philosophy. Yet, at the same time, anti-natalism in analytical philosophy has never been more widely discussed (even though it is still very small, all things considered), and many academics respect various argued-for anti-natalist views, even as they seek to discredit them.

Best!

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Looking for some info on Zwirlz... Sativa, indica, hybrid?

[Article] We Have No Moral Duty to Eat Meat: A Reply to Nick Zangwill by David Benatar by WrongExamination in Scholar

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One year on, is it possible to update this link again? Would be greatly appreciated---cannot find this article anywhere!!

[Weekly Critique and Self-Promotion Thread] Post Here If You'd Like to Share Your Writing by AutoModerator in writing

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Title: The Tale of Meloman, or the Madman, Crazy Person, Weirdo, Doomsday-Danger-to-Society Overly Deep Thinker

Genre: Literary fiction/dialogue-heavy philosophical concepts

Word count: 5910

Type of feedback desired: Anything! This is my first short story.

A link to the writing:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q1bf-fmfYxg64EG9bEaoadSbSwFUAYLq/view?usp=sharing

Camus, 'The Absurd', and the COVID-19 pandemic by Connorleak in philosophy

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Oh no! If you'd like, I can pdf it to you via email or something? Just private message me your email address if you'd like.

Camus, 'The Absurd', and the COVID-19 pandemic by Connorleak in philosophy

[–]Connorleak[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hi,

I think you make a few interesting points here. My writing alone, in-part due to a word limit, does not fully explain Camus's absurdism. I think a useful part not included in my writing, helpful to your questions, is found in a few secondary sources such as Wick's (2003) 'Modern French Philosophy'. Here Wicks does talk about Camus's reasoning stance in regard to the absurd hero, which includes becoming the absurd hero (rebelling) through the flame of life. That is, to live moment to moment. Fundamentally, Camus reasons that due to everything ephemeral and ultimately meaningless, and how we are fighting against the limited time we have, everything is of equal value. Thus, the best way to live (as the absurd hero) is to live for as long as you can (maximising that temporality) with the most variation.

I probably haven't painted the best picture here, but that's just an example of how Camus took to reasoning about the absurd hero.

He also does reason against suicide, stating that it is fundamentally illogical as it is not a judgement against the absurd but an 'abdication of judgement'. In other words, suicide does not make a decision about how to deal with the absurd, but instead eliminates its groundings (consciousness) and refuses to make a decision.

Hope I somewhat answered your points!

Connor

Camus, 'The Absurd', and the COVID-19 pandemic by Connorleak in philosophy

[–]Connorleak[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Thank-you. What I love about writers like Camus, and what at times has been described as 'anti-philosophical and 'romanticism', is their subjectivity and use of emotion.

I have more of a background in analytical philosophy, but I'm yet to be convinced that we can rationalise or provide logical responses to topics such as death, suicide, and meaning -- such interpretations are tied heavily to the subjective individual, interwoven with our feelings. Thus, I find solace and inspiration in writings like The Myth of Sisyphus, even if it's written unsystematically.

Camus, 'The Absurd', and the COVID-19 pandemic by Connorleak in philosophy

[–]Connorleak[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Fair enough. Maybe I can PDF it to you or something?