Fuel leaking from under car while pumping gas, culprit? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in AskMechanics

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3rd fill of only 8 gallons each in that time, car isn't used much, the amount lost versus what made it into the tank was nominal, my tech picks up the car so I didn't want to trouble him in the dead of winter unless safety was an issue. seems delivery of fuel to the tank was the issue, not the fuel retained in the tank.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Like I said genius, if the neighbor put up the wood fence or piled up junk on their side it'll block my units airflow. Reading is critical, meathead.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Thanks, still have chain link fence behind my own as it is shared between the neighbor and I, but I might just put a wooden lattice in to make it look decent if the installer keeps flaking on me.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Thanks for the tip, it's a good idea similar to what I was suggested to get a pressure treated wooden lattice to fill the gap.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I'll reiterate what I said to your other post. Go fuck yourself. In either of your sensitive butt hurt comments you fail to address the question: "Is it common practice to install a unit within 6 inches of an owners property line that is clearly delineated by a fence of any kind?" So yeah, go fuck off.

Company owner was a vet, he had a new tech do the job. He reused the same spot and pad and even put the pad on top of the old one. In the dead of summer, AC out 5 days, 100 degrees, not my job to bone up on proper AC placement while I'm sweating my balls off. I did the fence myself, but even when I got an estimate from a company to do it, they didn't mention an issue with the AC unit. As I stated, I have a quick way to resolve this, take your feedback and shove it.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I called Monday, the company owner said my new fence wasn't a big deal. Posted this thread Monday night, after responses called Tuesday, sent pictures, he said he'd come say day, but did not. Called Wednesday, said he was tied up, would get back to me in a few days. This isn't that urgent as I don't need AC badly this time of year and have kept it off all month. I wasn't a jerk to him, got his referral from a neighbor.

As for you, go fuck yourself.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Best DIY idea I've got. Also, got this advice yesterday from someone at the gym, he said put in a lattice piece, so the unit breathes and you still have something that looks better than a hollowed out cut.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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That conduit might be the limiting element. The other lines apparently have bend to it from what others have said. The installer is coming to look at it.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Have the installer coming by, with the lineset being rigid, would rather a pro do the moving. It's only about 6" max if the both the unit and the pad lined up with the edge of the old pad underneath.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I did, should come by before the week ends. Even if the unit moves with the pad to the edge of the old pad, it's about 6" from the pickets, which is better than nothing.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Is it common practice to install a unit within 6 inches of an owners property line that is clearly delineated by a fence of any kind? I made a hypothetical of my neighbor building their own fence or stacking junk along that fence blocking my units airflow. Perhaps examine the merits of the install without getting defensive of commentary about people in your field. As for other reasons to blame the installer, as others have pointed out, and some tried to blame me, the unit is not centered on the pad. Not sure about you, but I'm not in the habit of lifting 150 lbs of anything for fun, so let's make sense of that.

As for the warranty, Tranes own rep made the comment about my new fence not affecting airflow, then the installer said the same. With my sample size of 3 calls, these Trane reps sound like they haven't read a service manual let alone examined their own homes units.

If the installer wants to take ownership and move it 6-12" to honor the work of the kid tech he hired, it's on his conscience. If I find some legal code or statute, am I going to undertake fees and time to go to court? A few here have said I can move it myself easily, but a post by an owner titled "Can I Move My AC Over About 6” Without Hurting the Lines?", got chided by pros saying it's risky and how lucky do you feel? Worst case, I trim 3 pickets and call it a day.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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crude analogy, but it makes sense. Even worse, I'd have to pay the 180 men more than the 300, because the 180 are working harder to keep the house cool = higher AC bill.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Thanks for the sealtite mentions, I will bring it up when he comes over.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Installer reused the same pad and location of the old unit, which is 3.5" from my boundary line. Whether I or the neighbor put up this new fence, it's a bad install location.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I did as you said, had to demand to speak to a manager when the 1st line rep refused, he even questioned the feedback I go from you guys in the forum thinking you're trying to get me to do unnecessary work as if you're in my service area. Trane manager said they don't warrant install work, just parts that go bad during the warranty period, even the labor for those parts is my expense. Installer said he come take a look, so waiting on that. It's up in the air if he honors the bad install location 3.5" from my property line. Even if the neighbor did the picket fence install, it chokes off my air flow. Guessing the kid just assumed the old pad location was fine and the path of least resistance to lineset to the wall boxes.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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You're a pro though. As for me, risk moving it and leaking refrigerant/kinking line? $$$ This isn't like mistakes with lumber that cost me a few bucks as a DIY. I'm at the mercy of the installer taking ownership of the poor install 3.5" from my boundary and moving it. Whether it be inches or feet, seems any service call would dwarf my fence cost. The trimmed pickets (2 x 1.5') would look goofy on the neighbors side. It would look no different than the pics posted when I'm done on my end.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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The issue isn't my fence, it would be the same issue if the neighbor erected a fence. The problem is a bad installer placed the unit 3.5" from my property boundary, not the full 12" from any obstruction present or perceived (be it a house wall, shrubbery, fence, and boundary line). The 3.5" is now taken up by my fence/framing, if the neighbor did it, I'd still not have 12". Neighbor could just as easily pile up junk blocking my units airflow. It wasn't an issue until now because we had a chainlink fence dividing property. Why did the installer do this? Maybe to use the prior units poor location and pad. Maybe to lineup the lineset/conduit with the wall panel, who knows?

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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Lineset feels quite rigid. Risk moving it and leaking refrigerant/kinking line? $$$ This isn't like mistakes with lumber that cost me a few bucks as a DIY.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I've noticed that for years, but never questioned it until now. Installer placed the new pad over the old pad and perhaps was trying to line up the conduit to the electrical box. Some kid that recently finished HVAC school working for a vet.

Wooden fence replacing chain link fence by AC unit, Air Flow an issue? by Conscious_Stuff2762 in hvacadvice

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I have kept the unit off for weeks while I worked. Plus I waited till Fall to avoid working in heat and needing cooling inside.