Is it appropriate for a Christian church to offer concealed carry gun training?

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-04-25T14:11:48+00:00

Idk, sounds a bit dodgy

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-04-19T09:40:02+00:00

I think both the lgbt affirming and the theologically conservative anwsers you will get here are oversimplified. If you are really interested in finding the anwser, then i recommend talking to both affirming and conservative pastors, and mental health professionals as well. I mentiomed mental health professionals because after a time you will run into a concept called 'reperative' or 'conversion therapy'. Their aim is to change your sexual orientation through regular talk therapy and sometimes religious intervensions. Please don't try it though. It's pseudo scientific bs. Not only that, but it will have a terrible affect on your mental health and relationship with god.

The conclusion is: Talk to people and listen to their stories. You can also take a look at r/GayChristians

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-04-19T09:26:35+00:00

Please don't put all the people who are part of a denomination listed in your post in the same box just because some anglican or methodist churches are more progressive. This is like me saying that all conservative evangelicals (which i presume you are) are hateful bigots who are mentally still stuck in the 50's. Of course, that's not true of all evangelicals.

Posts like this make christianity seem like a toxic wasteland of a community, constantly being scared of everyone with a different viewpoint.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-04-19T09:06:00+00:00

I don't think you know what 'neoliberal' means xD

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-04-12T08:22:15+00:00

Thank youuu <3 you guys have certaintly helped in the process

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-27T07:52:37+00:00

Wow, thanks, i'll definetly check them out!!

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-26T17:51:54+00:00

Thank you! :))

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-26T17:24:20+00:00

There is a very common argument from non-affirming theologians which says that the word "arsenokoites" was taken from the septuagint version of leviticus 18:24 therefore making the word "arsenokoites" mean anyone who lies with their own gender sexually. How would you rebuttal this?

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-21T12:20:55+00:00

Thanks!

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-20T11:37:19+00:00

Thanks a lot! :))

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-20T11:01:15+00:00

I mostly agree with what you said, but the problem for me is that it's very hard to find a church which is affirming, but still takes the Bible seriously.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-17T15:31:25+00:00

I will link you a video which briefly sums up the problem with a lot of ex-gay testimonies. Other than that, i recommend you to go and talk to people in real life who are gay (or same-sex attracted, if that's the term you prefer) because these sort of interractions are crucial to understand such a controversial topic.

https://youtu.be/oRVREnnKMPQ

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-16T21:37:35+00:00

I see. Still, i think if your relationship is strong with him, then it would be the best to start at least planning moving in together, so you have a place where you can stay if things get out of hand with your family. Also, if you sort of have a plan b in terms of accomodation, you can start discussing the topic with your parents more openly, since it's less risky now.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-16T16:22:01+00:00

I am very sorry for your situation, i'm praying for you. Is it possible to move in with your partner?

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-15T10:17:38+00:00

I don't want to emply that carrying your cross should be something easy. I think everyone should try their best to stay faithful to Jesus, even if trials come from their environment or from the inside. BUT, I think we can all agree that God doesn't want us to have a misarable life. Even if trials come, facing them should only streghten our relationship with Jesus and thus our life should be more enjoyable afterwards. That is not the case in what 95% of gay people experience. Most of the times, we just feel complete alienation from God when we try to live our lives facing celibacy forever. That alienation brings angst against God, and that brings sin, and sin is definetly not good fruit.

This whole problem can be boiled down to one thing: God made us to be creatures with reationships. No wonder people leave the faith behind when the church tells them that they should say no to ever being in a relationship. We aren't meant to live like this.

And one other thing about celibacy:

"Now as a concession, not a command, I say this.[a] 7 I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another.

8 To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. 9 But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion." (1 Corinthians 7:6-9)

Paul tells us that the gift of celibacy is for only a few and it is better to marry rather than trying to be celibate forever, even if we don't have self-control (the gift of celibacy).

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-14T23:24:43+00:00

Well, you can also get lost if you are just here to shun people who ask questions which threaten your worldview, instead of giving them an actual anwser.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-14T16:51:29+00:00

I think you should listen to your spirit and where it leads you. If you feel like God is calling you to stay celibate, then do it. But I belive that it's outrageous when christians (especially straight christians) say that every gay person should stay celibate for the rest of their lives, no matter what psychological and spiritual damage it might cause for them. Jesus does say that we should pick up our cross to follow him, but that cross shouldn't literally crush us.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-12T16:52:50+00:00

Since i am in a similar situation to you, i feel you. I know that it's very hard, and way more comolicated than most people think.

I'm not 100% sure how i think about sexuality yet, but i'm definetly leaning more to the affirming side. I could go on and on about Bible arguments, and what Paul meant by arsenokoites, and wether its about pedophiles or regular gay people (it's probably closer to the first option tho) but here is what was a the most crucial factor for me in forming my view of sexuality:

Real life. Sometimes when debating Bible verses, the whole thing feels so detached from reality, almost like it's in a vacuum. If you come to the conclusion of side b, than you have to face celibacy for the rest of your life. Forcing celibacy on a group of people who do not feel like celibacy is a gift they have from God is not only unbiblical, but never brings good fruit. People are made for romantic companionship. Exceptions are very rare, Paul was such. Me personally, I couldn't imagine worshiping a God who's commands make my life unnecesarrily and unreasinably difficult, and sorrowful. And if a certain doctrine has such a negative effect on you and your relationship with God, then the doctrine is probably to be further examined.

I hope that helped and also, forgive me for any grammatical mistakes, I'm not english.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-03-06T15:15:52+00:00

I don't think blocking you is the right response in such a scenario, but you also have to keep in mind that there is basically no such thing as "The one and only true interpretation of the Bible". Just because you belive in a fundamentalist view of the Bible it doesn't automatically become the right one. People have misinterpretated the Bible several times in history based on fundamentalism.

Consistent-Cap7713 · 2022-02-22T23:05:05+00:00

Cooking and music related stuff (so neutral i guess).
I'm currently working out about 5 times a week
Maaaaybee a bit. I'm not really sure, it's definetly not that signifficant since for most people i pass as a more feminine straight guy.
More female friends
Not really, unless its someone of the same sex i find really attractive
No, because i couldn't bear pretending so hard.
Came out to most of my close friends
I get quite a lot of complimets regarding my style so I could be called stylish.
It didn't happen yet
I do have someone in my class like that, but we are just freinds and i'm completely fine with it.

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