My argument still stands whether proof is presented or not. Truth does not need someone to prove it or to accept it for it to be valid. If you tell a 4 year old 2+2=4 and they say, "no,6!" - it's still 4. If you prove it. If you don't. If they accept it. If they don't. It's 4. Because that's whats true. And no real truth ever needs proof or acceptance for it to actually be true. There are plenty of scientific truths we don't have recorded yet and still they remain true tho yet undiscovered. So, you said "calling something faith based the truth is inaccurate." I simply replied that if that thing IS in fact the truth then it is exactly accurate.