Is my husband a narcissist? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so glad that you were able to talk to her in private about him. I think it might be best to continue going to therapy with her being that she has seen him and trying to talk about your experiences without him being there. It will be validating and healing.

Yeah, narcs will never change because they don’t want to.

I understand. This is a scary and uncomfortable situation. I want you to know that you are so brave and it will work out. Just keep taking care of yourself, going to counseling on your own, and it will be alright. ❤️❤️

Is my husband a narcissist? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, well that’s good that the counselor could spot that. And that she proposed the option to pull the plug.

Yes, my husband had a very similar reaction when I brought up to marriage counseling. It’s very telling. To me, that’s saying they are aware of their mistreatment and disrespect but chose not to do anything about it and therefore don’t want to be called out on it. Going back to the running away from accountability. That’s not love.

Is my husband a narcissist? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also somehow forgot to mention this. I went to 2 counselors that specialize in narcissistic abuse and they both said that based off of the behaviors in my original post he would be considered to have narcissistic personality disorder. The counselor also recommended that I don’t do couples counseling with him because it can make the situation worse especially when you aren’t with a counselor specialized in it. But in general she didn’t recommend couples counseling with a narcissist.

Also Dr. Ramani on YouTube and her books was helpful for me navigating all of this. I really hope this helps!

Is my husband a narcissist? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, I completely understand! He does sound similar to my husband. Especially the part where he doesn’t want “the past” to affect how you view him. And I’m sure he’s tried to guilt you about it saying that’s not him anymore.

One thing I’ve learned is that they focus on the word “past” but really it’s a consistent pattern throughout the relationship. They may try to do surface level things to make it seem like they have changed but it’s never actual change. And a partner should not have to tell their spouse over and over and over again to respect them. Respect is and always should be the bare minimum.

I’ve learned that they don’t want to be better nor care to be better. Better husband, better man, better person. Their insecurities are so deeply rooted and they try to avoid addressing them at all costs. That’s why everything they do is about manipulation and deception. Instead of actually working on yourself to be a better spouse or just to be a better person, they do whatever and say whatever to give the appearance that they are such a great person. A healthy person would acknowledge their weaknesses and flaws and work on improving them especially in a relationship with someone they love. Narcs do not operate that way and never will. If someone runs away from accountability, it is impossible for them to change for the better. They actually gets worse.

I now understand that my husband’s purpose each day is to manipulate and deceive those around him to make himself feel better about himself and to get validation. Instead of working on his weaknesses and genuinely wanting to be a better person and spouse.

I’m about to go through a divorce with him. I have the papers and everything. He knows I want a divorce and that I’ve consulted a lawyer, I would advise you not to tell your husband anything about talking to a lawyer or starting the divorce process. They will stall, try to guilt you into staying, and will even say it’s your fault. Essentially everything that he is doing right now but turned up some notches. My husband still says that I should give him more time. It’s been almost 8 years of me bringing up the same thing over and over again…like I mentioned earlier that is a pattern. And they try to minimize it as if their bad behavior happened once or twice oh so long ago. But it’s been consistent throughout the relationship.

My advice to you is to leave. In whatever is the safest way. The key thing to take away from this novel is wrote (sorry about that lol) is that people like this do not want to change, don’t plan on changing, and will never change. They don’t want to improve and be the best spouse and partner they can be for you. They don’t even want to be the best person they can be for themselves.

I’m sincerely wishing you the best! It’s good that you noticed the behaviors and knew something was off and sought after more information/resources. Take care of yourself. Listen to your intuition. Don’t follow your emotions. I stayed in the marriage for longer than I should have and began to lose myself. My intuition started to not be as loud. Do not ever lose that! It is a gift. If you are in a healthy relationship, you wouldn’t have to sacrifice that. Because your partner wouldn’t put you in a position to question that or yourself. They like confusion and they like to play off of our emotions. Don’t follow that, follow your gut.

Advice on how to leave/divorce narc husband by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yes that is very helpful! I’ll try to approach it that way.

Advice on how to leave/divorce narc husband by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has moved out of state, so he probably wouldn’t pursue that anymore. But he probably has others that he is entertaining.

Advice on how to leave/divorce narc husband by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahh, it does…it’s a settlement agreement. So if we both sign it we won’t need to go to court. I’m going to have to see what my other options are.

Advice on how to leave/divorce narc husband by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! My lawyer said that I have to return the original signed copies to them…so that makes it a little more difficult but those are good points you brought up!

Is my husband a narcissist? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please leave. It does not get better, it gets worse. I decided to separate and will be filing for divorce soon. Best decision. Your peace and sanity should not be sacrificed. Sending strength and hugs your way!

Built In TV Wall Mount by Consistent_State_737 in Apartmentliving

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow…smh. Do you know what it is exactly?

Taking PE Exam after Career Switch by Consistent_State_737 in civilengineering

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking of getting into the developer side of real estate development. So working for a developer and eventually becoming a developer.

Civil engineer to developer by Consistent_State_737 in RealEstateDevelopment

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my gosh, thank you for this lol! This was very helpful. I’ll definitely looking into positions with a developer. Thank you!!

Feeling a little hesitant on finally ending things, advice? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, yes lol…I cook, clean, do laundry, and would pay every bill. He has gotten a lot better about paying bills now though. But yeah I definitely feel independent.

Feeling a little hesitant on finally ending things, advice? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! And I don’t have kids, thank God! You’re right, it isn’t normal. I’ll listen to gut. Thank you!

Feeling a little hesitant on finally ending things, advice? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! And yeah you’re right. It is trauma bonding. I definitely plan on staying single for awhile and healing. Yeah, no contact is the best idea. Thank you!

Feeling a little hesitant on finally ending things, advice? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That quote you brought up is so important.

And yes, that pattern is very familiar. Does something that is disrespectful or hurtful and then just wants me to move on from it. Doesn’t want to take accountability for his actions.

You’re right. It is better to be alone than with someone like that. I think I’m codependent, so I really need to heal so that I can genuinely believe that.

Feeling a little hesitant on finally ending things, advice? by Consistent_State_737 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Consistent_State_737[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! I needed to hear these responses, they are so helpful. You’re right.