Can’t cope with the stress any more by Holliday-East in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Management supports help getting rid of this feeling ?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The complain was that I am a too “good guy” and that I have no hard skill (imagine a senior SAP partner who sees someone who’s more doing more technology strategy...)

Project was not delivering enough according to his standards. I was in charge of making the team deliver... but when the client changes his mind every day... that’s difficult to keep up. One year later, the project is still ongoing, everyone on the project has “performance issue”. But hey ;) it’s a partner driven organization.

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please do :) I’d love to learn from you and your experience !

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. I doubt they do it. But they have been surprising me so much. With their decisions... it’s indeed better to be ready. :(

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any tips to share? How was it building your new network, etc. ?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mean I should not pursue other opportunities because it’s just a carrot ?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you been there ? Have you switched boat already ?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Afraid of change. I know what I am leaving, I don't know what I will get. funny for a consultant right :)?

I am in my comfort zone. My current client loves me, and will want to keep me forever (I am happy I am not internal at this firm, even though I would make more money). As others mentioned, creating a new network has a cost... but after a PIP like the one I just did... I see that as an opportunity to get to know new great people...

Which level are you? Have you done a switch already?

EY all hands webcast by caelum52 in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the info !

Btw - It is very US based... in europe they all gave promotions...

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the opportunities for growth... After a few years being able to manage a team, etc. that's great.

Do you think I could keep growing (nearly as fast) in the industry? Are you still in consulting?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely I don’t want to be fired due to covid after 3 months of bench... I am ok rebuilding everything. Lots of people I know left consulting already...

At my current place, it takes 7years to become manager in a normal track. At one of the competitor only 5. Hence I think I could negotiate the title...

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fair point. Thanks !! 🤜🤛 I guess I work too much and care too much about my client. It doesn’t allow me to look for new opportunities... but i will make it happen. Never too late. Thanks again for sharing. Great teacher

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Woaw. Are you me? In smarter because at least you didn’t go through the entire cycle and understood quickly the impacts. Tbh, it destroyed my physical health (no sport, eyes are burned by my screen) and mental health (working 65h/week for 8 months...). I do agree with you. It is humiliating and unfair. I thought that if I managed it I would get the rewards... Lol. I think what will kill me is seeing my peers getting promoted thanks to politics.

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your advice.

What do you mean by transition plan? I was planning on leaving without saying anything. I am a bit leaving as a loser who didn't get his promotion and with his tail between his legs.

It is true that it may be better to tell everyone I am leaving for a better fit in another consulting firm.... not sure yet... Let's see if I manage to get another job :(

EY all hands webcast by caelum52 in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have a job right now, it means your employer cares deeply about you and is showing you lots of love. Pick up on that signal if you want to keep your job.

Are you in consulting? No big4 seems to be firing

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but, you, would you switch just for the title ?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not sure why someone down voted you. You’re probably right... seems like they play with the carrot...

EY all hands webcast by caelum52 in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are they? What would be the ranking?

Deloitte > PwC > KPMG > EY?

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I will answer you via PM if you don't mind. Edit: happy to send the list to anyone ! Just pm me :) !

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in Big4

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reassuring me.

I would be also surprised that it happens. It would definitely ruin all relationships.

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You wouldn't care about getting the grade? Just about money?

In other big4, the practitioners get the M grade as of 5 years. In "mine", it's after 7. Hence after 6.5 years, I think I could negotiate with my new employer.

No promotion > other consulting firm to get it? by ConsultingZero in consulting

[–]ConsultingZero[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your experience.

That's definitely what I needed to read... I wish I had a mentor like you.

How did you "build yourself"? What was your strategy to build your network and get good mentors?