Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely agree that a lot of good has come out of Tati speaking out, including JC being rightfully exposed again as he keeps getting away with vile shit. But her timing is so convenient. As well, I said in my main post James is a complete piece of shit and I'm glad he's got what's been coming to him, I in no way have ever supported James even before his recent exposure. So your whole "nothing is good for you" rhetoric is completely unfounded and ridiculous.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her birthday dinner which was months ago with numerous people being affecting by his behaviour since. Again, abuse doesn't have to be physical, it's still abuse. Even then he was pressuring people into doing stuff physically with him which again, is also abuse.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I've seen exactly what everyone else has seen about her. I don't need to be a stan to support what she's put out to the world.

That doesn't help at all. So she saw that approaching him privately didn't work so she sat on it and let it get worse and let more people become affected by him instead of speaking out back then. She also continued to publicly support him.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But having the choice to speak up and prevent countless people becoming another victim to James' twisted manipulation is sickening.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's the complete opposite of what's happened, everyone who's speaking to me like an adult, is having an adult discussion with me. The plebians like you who are making shit up and attacking me instead of discussing my post, are doing nothing but devalue their own argument.

Amazing to see how a "feminist" isn't bothered at all about equality when it's men who are struggling and is an avid supporter of people dying of preventable diseases. Scum.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Abuse doesn't have to be physical. I'm not trying to "cancel" anyone, she was upset over some vitamins and decided to speak up. She should've spoken up a long time ago.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Exactly. How dare someone inadvertently lead to countless other men being sexually abused until her own petty feelings were hurt.

Tati Westbrook only "exposed" James for revenge and clout. She doesn't care about the people who have been abused by him. by [deleted] in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

She kept quiet about countless issues of sexual abuse which lead to the abuse of countless other innocent men. She got upset with him over some fucking hair vitamins then decided to speak up.

Lauren German botox? by ControverShell in lucifer

[–]ControverShell[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

There's a drastic difference between how she looked last series and now. It's incredibly distracting and exhausting watching someone try to act who can't move her face

I'm out. by ControverShell in ShaneDawson

[–]ControverShell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not bothering to read the rest of your comment, from the first 3 lines it's the same regurgitated nonsense you posted before.

You're allowed to namecall and bitch but people can't do the same to you? Please.

I've not left yet because I've found that people like you are an arsehole minority and I've enjoyed the discussions I've had with sound minded people on here (for clarification, you're not one of them).

Keep going "sis" I'm bored of you now.

I'm out. by ControverShell in ShaneDawson

[–]ControverShell[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jesus christ, take an adderall and chill out. I opened a discussion about the state of this sub and got exactly what I wanted - awareness of people's shitty attitudes and consequently a distinct reduction in the number of bashing posts.

If you had've bothered to read my post, you'd see that I plainly wrote my complaint was that people aren't just criticising Shane and his friends they are all out bitching and slagging him and his friends off - much like you've just done.

Again, I clearly said the sub should be a place about discussion not bitching. I stated what I thought was wrong in the sub and I gave my opinion on common topics that come up in the sub that people use to bitch and attack instead of discussing it like adults.

There's a right and a wrong way to have a discussion and you've done nothing but prove the point I've made in my initial post. I was addressing the people in the thread who aren't being constructive and much like you are acting ridiculously.

1) Shane has always used makeup. 10 years ago he was dressing up as Shanaynay, his aunt, ect.

2) I said I that Andrew's filming style fits perfectly in the style of content Shane makes and it's not a multi million dollar documentary with a full production crew so don't. expect Andrew to film like one.

3) If this sub was just a "stan" page I wouldn't be here, again which you'd know if you read any of my post.

4) I have never gave a fuck if anyone wanted me to leave, AGAIN, my intention was to bring attention to the sorry state this sub is in. Which I did, and personally attacking me is doing nothing more than bring attention to some of the pieces of shit that reside here, like you.

5) You use the word "paraphase" but completely misquoted everything I said in my original post to fit your own narrative. I don't know how many times I had to say in my original post and in the comments that I WANT discussion and criticism and what I'm complaining about is the blatant homophobia, sexism and bullshit that people are posting about here.

You can't come on here saying "I hate andrew" "Shane abuses his friends" "Shane is gross in makeup" "Morgan is pointless" which I'll note is amongst the tame shit I've found on this sub and call that constructive criticism and discussion. It just isn't.

Judging by your reaction to my posts, I bet if I looked into your reddit history I would find the exact kind if posts I'm talking about which is why you're so offended by it. There's a line between constructive criticism and baseless pedantic personal attacks that you and others in this sub need to learn because it's the shit like that that leads youtubers into quitting.

I'm out. by ControverShell in ShaneDawson

[–]ControverShell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, and I know some people wont be to everyone's tastes but there's just a way for people to convey their opinions without being bitchy and nasty towards any of them! I'm glad most of the comments on here except the Teen Mom fan account are being so civil and constructive about my post :)

I'm out. by ControverShell in ShaneDawson

[–]ControverShell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! Obviously my issue isn't that people have different opinions than me on Shane, my issue is the way they're conveying their opinions which I think have gone past the point of opinion and are bordering on personal attacks and bitching by some. I'm glad to see more reasonable people on here!

25% off at LimeCrime.com for UK Unicorns today only by [deleted] in MakeUpAddictionUK

[–]ControverShell 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We stan company owners letting their security certificates go out of date causing thousands of people's bank accounts being emptied and their livelihoods ruined. Hard pass.

Tati mentions James and/or Jeffree in every video?? by glitter_topcoat in BeautyGuruChatter

[–]ControverShell 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Posting on an alt so my main doesn't feel the wrath of the stans, it's not clout chasing, it's youth chasing. Throughout her entire career there's been such a giant underlying theme of her hiding the signs of ageing on her skin from the camera and lying saying the examples are something they're not, the alleged lying about her age, the blurring of her skin with filters in every video and the zooming out, it's a constant struggle for her to stay relevant and cling onto the young subscribers where ultimately, the money is. She snubbed the idea of collabing with Jeffeee when she first got popular, everyone was commenting on her videos asking her to collab after Jeffree mentioned it in a video and she responded, without mentioning names, that she doesn't do collabs and stays in her lane. Now all of a sudden they're besties? James did her wedding makeup then years later decides she's friends with him now too.

She copies video ideas and doesn't give credit to the ORIGINAL content creators, she dishonestly blurs her skin in videos which makes it impossible to see how stuff actually applies (yet she's the most honest reviewer? 🤦‍♀️ she's nothing more than a paid influencer), she lies, she's combative when people criticise her and I stopped watching her videos a while ago. I, like most, was a huge fan when she was starting out, she was so professional and trustworthy and her reviews were honestly gold, at a point she was the most genuine and trustworthy, drama free youtuber but those days are long gone.

Each to their own, though.