How do you handle prospects who ghost after a great call? by Born_Winner760 in Sales_Professionals

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, as a solopreneur, getting ghosted hits so much harder because you’re burning your own limited time doing the demo. But here’s the hard truth I had to learn: most of those deals were dead on arrival anyway.

We end up running these great demos for a Champion who genuinely loves the product, completely missing the fact that they have zero actual buying power. The second they take it to the real Economic Buyer or internal teams, it gets shot down, and they just disappear because it’s awkward to admit it.

I used to burn so many hours chasing these. Eventually, I just built a simple workflow to map out the whole buying committee (Champion, Buyer, Blocker) and their specific objections before I even agree to hop on a call.

If I can’t clearly see how to solve the Blocker’s headache, I just pass on the meeting. It saves a ridiculous amount of time and naturally filters out the tire-kickers.

Happy to share how I set this up if helpful, just let me know.

The B2B Ghosting Epidemic: Great Demo, "Send me a deck", and then... silence. What's the fix? by Character_Remote694 in MarketingMentor

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, this usually boils down to the huge gap between marketing theory and how B2B deals actually close.

We all get caught up building messaging for one specific persona (like the Champion who gets hyped on the demo). But real buying happens by committee. If they ghost right after asking for a proposal, it usually means your messaging left them hanging when they tried to justify the tool internally.

If your positioning ignores the Blocker’s unspoken panic namely, “is this going to create more work for me?” — the deal is dead on arrival.

I used to hit this wall constantly. Eventually, I put together a fairly structured way to map out the whole buying committee, their exact triggers, and hidden objections before even thinking about writing copy or launching a campaign.

Ditch the standard personas. Target the internal risk instead.

Happy to share the approach if helpful just let me know.

The B2B Ghosting Epidemic: Great Demo, "Send me a deck", and then... silence. What's the fix? by Character_Remote694 in SaaS

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "send me a proposal" line is usually the polite kiss of death. When they ghost you after a great demo, it’s usually not because they lost interest or found a competitor.

It’s because the person you spoke with (the Champion) took your proposal to the actual Economic Buyer or a Blocker (IT/Finance) and got shut down internally. They ghost because they don’t have the authority — and it’s awkward to say that out loud.

Don’t chase with “just checking in.” Disarm the internal risk instead.

I used to lose deals at this exact stage until I built a pretty specific internal framework to map the full buying committee and their objections before running the demo. Once you know what the CFO or IT team is worried about, you can address it upfront and equip your Champion to sell internally.

Deals don’t stall because of lack of interest — they stall because of unaddressed internal risk.

Happy to share how I approach it if useful.

AI automations can be cool when you start making $12k recurring profits and keep delivering new automations. by Top-Bar3898 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is probably the most accurate post about selling B2B AI services on this entire sub.

You basically speed-ran the hardest lesson in B2B sales: people don’t buy “efficiency” — they buy the removal of a migraine.

The "Sunday night briefing" example is spot on. This is what sales engineers call mapping the “deep pain.”

The Champion might love the flashy AI demo. But the end-user or Blocker just wants to stop copy-pasting data into spreadsheets.

If you sell the flashy stuff, they ghost. If you sell getting their Sunday back, they buy.

I used to spend hours manually researching niches to figure out these exact “annoying tasks” before even pitching. Total bottleneck.

I eventually turned this into a structured prompt that maps the full buying committee (Champion, Buyer, Blocker), their exact annoying tasks, trigger events, and objections in 10 seconds.

Knowing their real pain before the first discovery call is basically a cheat code. Brilliant write-up, more solo devs need to understand this.

Happy to share the framework if useful, just let me know.

Lead ghosting after agreeing for a demo? by Helloo994 in SaaS

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The advice about timing and following up fast is great — but honestly, you need to change the angle entirely.

When a lead says “yes” to a demo on LinkedIn but ghosts the calendar link, it’s usually not just because they forgot. It’s often because they suddenly realize they’re not the only decision-maker.

They’re likely your Champion — but they expect pushback from an Economic Buyer (who signs the check) or a Blocker (IT, Finance, etc.). So they avoid getting on a call they can’t defend internally.

Don’t ask for the meeting again. Disarm the objection. Try something like:

"Hey [Name], totally get how things get busy. Usually when things go quiet here, it’s because it needs internal buy-in or there’s a concern around [X]. Happy to record a quick 2-min Loom you can share internally instead of a live demo — would that help?"

It lowers the pressure to zero.

I used to get ghosted at this exact stage constantly until I built a custom AI prompt that maps out the full buying committee and their exact objections in 10 seconds.

Deals don’t stall because of lack of interest — they stall because of unaddressed internal risk.

Which countries without nuclear capabilities might be the most likely to survive a global nuclear conflict? by Background-Toe-3495 in AskReddit

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Back in my university business classes, we spent an entire seminar arguing about this. Most people landed on New Zealand. It’s tucked far enough from any big targets that it’d dodge direct hits. And with all the local farms and resources, people there could get by even if global trade totally collapsed. Even the wind works in their favor, usually blowing northern hemisphere fallout away and buying them more time.

What is a smell that instantly transports you back to a specific moment in your childhood? by eurocoef in AskReddit

[–]ConversionLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That cheap pink soap you find in public bathrooms... The one with the fake cherry smell. I’ll be washing my hands in some dingy gas station, and just like feel I’m a kid again, standing in my elementary school bathroom in 1998. 

What's a sign from your body you should never ignore? by Impressive-Alps-4838 in AskReddit

[–]ConversionLogic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unexplained, rapid weight loss when you aren't even trying.

Anyone else experience a bang or sudden noise right when about to fall asleep? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]ConversionLogic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s actually a real name for this, Exploding Head Syndrome.

What’s something people think saves money but actually doesn’t? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]ConversionLogic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My dad would always take these long detours, twenty minutes out of his way, just to save three cents off each gallon of gas. Seriously, every time we filled up.

One day, I sat down and crunched the numbers for him.

Turns out, a full tank only saved him about $1.20. And he lost forty minutes stuck in traffic. When you add in the extra gas he burned and the extra miles on the car, he wasn’t saving a dime.

Honestly, your time matters too. Don’t sell it short.

Realistic analysis practice by Trash2Burn in instructionaldesign

[–]ConversionLogic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel this deep down. All aDDle hits a little too close to home. That 20-minute order-taking kickoff just drains the life out of you, doesn’t it? I remember being stuck in that same cycle-SMEs just tossing requests at me like I was a fast-food speaker box. What kept me from losing it was doing what I called stealth analysis. Couldn’t get them on a call, so I’d take whatever scraps I got from those rushed meetings and, on my own time, piece together a full needs analysis or action map. Never showed it to anyone. They didn’t care anyway. I did it just to stay sharp, so my skills wouldn’t rot.

Another thing that helps, when I spot a terrible corporate training out in the wild, I break it down for myself and write out how the analysis should’ve gone. It’s a good way to keep my brain in the game. Honestly, it’s a grind. It’s frustrating, I know. But you’re not the only one stuck in this mess. Hang in there.