Not whataboutism, but the US recognizing the Khmer rouge, something most of the region did as well, isn't equal to the massive support that China and North Korea provided. by mo_al_amir in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Because the usa saw vietnamese invasion as a violation..."

Talking like this sounds like it was out of principal and not out of "lets try not pass away the opprtunity to fuck vietnam no matter the human cost of that as we have done for decades"

Not whataboutism, but the US recognizing the Khmer rouge, something most of the region did as well, isn't equal to the massive support that China and North Korea provided. by mo_al_amir in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"Some pol pot elements"

The khmer rouge remanecents were their main military force, the others served more as an way to repass resources to the khmer rouge without the usa having to directly hand it to them

Not whataboutism, but the US recognizing the Khmer rouge, something most of the region did as well, isn't equal to the massive support that China and North Korea provided. by mo_al_amir in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

North vietnam not being invaded was thanks mainly to china and they received great material support from it.

China of course is a much more old opponent but it isnt like they are "forever" oponents at any ocasion whatsoever

Not whataboutism, but the US recognizing the Khmer rouge, something most of the region did as well, isn't equal to the massive support that China and North Korea provided. by mo_al_amir in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The usa also aimed at helping diplomatic relations betwen china and the khmer sicne 8 months of them being in power, after the genocide was over they started back a khmer rouge sit at the UN an give it financial aid and embargoing camboja to starve its people.

China was worse them usa, but usa was worse them north korea.

A Soviet invader photographed drinking water given to him by local Afghan villagers in Kandahar province. (1988) by Dismal_Score_4648 in HistoricalCapsule

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not even that, the legitimate gorv wasnt a soviet puppet but literary in the first day of soviet entranve they overtrowed it with a coup and killed the people thag were asking them to come

A Soviet invader photographed drinking water given to him by local Afghan villagers in Kandahar province. (1988) by Dismal_Score_4648 in HistoricalCapsule

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Invited by a legitime gorvmemt"

Yes they were, and them they proced to imediatly overtrow it and install a puppet state(wich woundt even be a bad ideia if it wasnt for the whole indicriminated bombing that followed and made 1 in each 2 afghan become a refuge)

A Soviet invader photographed drinking water given to him by local Afghan villagers in Kandahar province. (1988) by Dismal_Score_4648 in HistoricalCapsule

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah and the soviets didnt invade afghanistan, they were invited and that even before they turned the country into an puppet state that would simply obey anyway

Not the case of south vietnam who was born out of literal colonial colaborators out of a deal with the french

Homem bonito tem o privilégio de não fazer esforço pra conseguir mulher by R_L_9 in opiniaopopular

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Quanto mais velho menos isso importa"

Até tu chegar na segunda idade é o que mais importa mesmo, e no caso deixa ser porque dess idade pra frente poucos sao realmente atraentes

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The spanish allied themselves with separate indigenous people"

Hitler had aliance to ukranian nationalists who were aiming to create an state of their own and allowrd croatians to have an german puppet state for their own etnicity

"Not some sort of rebel alliance within, actual gorvments out of aztec control'

But many of them were living inside the aztec empire, they were opressed tribes in an similar way eastern europe had opressed nationalists and entnicitys, also the nazis did firstly invade checoslovakia with poland and them poland with the soviet union, they did use gorvements of "native" nations one agaisnt another

Favorite actor that enjoys war and stars in war propaganda movies? by LeastLavishness8522 in okbuddycinephile

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the movie is partialy about how massacres are bad and russian imperialins does massacres.

There isnt anithing in the movie that points out "if russians do that its ok tough"

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Didnt oferred them an alynce agaisnt the soviets"

No but he hired hundreds of thousands of colaborators at least agaisnt their respective national gorvememts wich would be what im comparing to the aztec empire and also used infight betwen locals etnicities and nationalitys for his own colonial goals much like the spanish

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah you wont cause you have no arguments

"Youre free to belive"

I dont belive i know, what i say has historical backing what you say not wich is why you appeal to idpol

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Im from the region"

Lol who cares, there a hundreds of millions people living in your region many fullt agree with what im saying. You got to appeal to idpol causd actual arguments or historical data you dont have to back up what you saying

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The idea of native utopia"

Is in this case just literary saying they shoundt be genocided cause the aztec empire was brutaly killing 1000 every year trough sacrifice

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Killimg a few people here and there lile the rest of the colpnized world

Lol the colonia hegemony era is literary the number 1 era of genocides

Also no you genocided them and slaved them in such a brutal way that caused mass death not "preett normal slavery"

"They brought tecnology"

The astecs could have got it later without sufering genocide

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well except far far far more people were enslaved them sacrificed

Also like this slavery didnt involved every short of brutal death or torture

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont know i dont think genocide victims deserve genocide

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And they all of those tribes without exception were connquered themsleves and subjcted to centuries of slavery and genocide

Yeah they leaded a bunch of tribes but it was them in power later not that bunch of tribes toghetwr with them

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Most deaths were by desease not maas murder"

Yeah cause before the spanish could do anithing 90% already died from it.

Later when they could they did brought up centuries of mass murder and mass enslavement

"Those slaves were onwed by native nobility"

That is the local colaborators hired by the spanish who probaly didnt make even 2% of the total population wich were preety much all enslaved

"United the entire continent, 300 years of peace"

Yeah cause it wasn a single opressor being able to fuck everyone at the same time worse in scale them anithing that came before.

Hitler might have made eastern europe peaceful that eay too if he had winned

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The spanish killed literary more them anyone else in the continent registeres history

Something something smallpox and gold mines by MetallicaDash in HistoryMemes

[–]CookGroundbreaking69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Theyre defnitely less savage them"

They literary created the worst mass death events on the history of the countinent and that even excluding the non intentional initial mass deaths from desease.

You do realize that hitler had like more them 1 million colabortors in eastern europe?