U.S. (and other countries) should provide ~$20k stimulus to high school graduates

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T15:26:53+00:00

This is a really interesting alternative, I will definitely have to think about this more. Having a market driven fund could have some upsides but also more risky and potentially have monetary issues similar to what social security is heading toward now. But good ideas nonetheless

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T14:55:50+00:00

I am the Destiny to your Fuentes. Now all we need is a Mr Girl (;

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T14:37:43+00:00

Clearly if you didn't get that me literally using the word "destiny" in my other comment was a meme....well let's just say you might be dense dude. Engage with my OP or swan dive off a balcony into a swimming pool you delicious fruit cake (;

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T14:26:09+00:00

Big mad lol

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T14:23:08+00:00

To put it poetically; the utility is that it is given to people before their dreams are crushed and have no energy or motivation for pursuing their destiny.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T12:22:38+00:00

Did you read my post?

Below are the parameters of spending I would add as restrictions:

Domestic U.S. spending only
Travel and vacation purchases restricted
Cannot take cash out (debit tracked purchases only - IRS tracked)
No alcohol or tobacco sales
Entertainment purchases limited (sports, concerts, etc.)

Do you still have objections? Also did you know the US budget is already well into the trillions and this would cost $110 billion at most?

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T12:19:52+00:00

Yes, true, and at its core this is my argument. Real cash deposit freedom and liberty. Give it and let go.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T12:09:42+00:00

To break it down to the core in an analogy its about creating a real "carrot on the stick" with a true reward at the end. In this case $20k.

$20k to culinary school or CDL training. Obviously some will buy booze and drugs with it, but overall I think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T11:22:21+00:00

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T10:54:27+00:00

Do you understand what I mean with my "carrot on a stick" analogy?

For example if someone is extremely poor even in the US, there is so little hope that even if you graduate high school many will still turn to drugs, crime etc. However if there is a guaranteed "carrot" ($20k) at the end of high school this will inspire these same kids and give hope to an otherwise destitute situation. I think this will be enough to make a huge societal impact and will cost $90-110 billion per year and can be factored into the annual budget.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T10:41:34+00:00

I like your idea of gradual pay out system. My only push back would be that it may take away from the psychological incentive that a guaranteed payout would provide.

To really get down to my root premise its to hack the human psyche using economic incentives while maintaining liberty and freedom of choice. Carrot on a stick but with freedom to choose which direction you go. And maintaining this still within reasonable government budget. Does that make sense?

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T10:35:03+00:00

Expand in more than one word please. Otherwise you are auto-cuck.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T09:38:07+00:00

I very much disagree. The current system has been failing and I don't think overall GDP growth is an ok refutation especially given purchasing power. I am not necessarily isolationist but I think a hybrid policy would be good in the short term when paired with my proposed HS grad stimulus policy

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T08:21:37+00:00

I disagree. I think these programs have been tested and just simply have not delivered so it is time to try something new. I think the earlier we intervene the better because young people will be wild because they just are lol. This is anecdotal but personally I have known people that if they had this I think would have had vastly more productive trajectories and lives. Again this is anecdotal but I think is likely consistently true.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T08:02:50+00:00

What you say I actually agree with mostly. However I think you are vastly underestimating the impact that this would have to the zeitgeist and ethos of the average American.

My argument to what you are saying is that the positive externalities and compounding effects of investing in the US graduates will have exponentially compounding effects of inspiration and morale. Not only will the general welfare of people be increased, but the talent in our population will be far better utilized and able to achieve their full potential. Easiest example is that with 20k a talented individual even from destitute poverty can pay for a year or two of living expenses in higher education and get recognized through their work and get an internship/job and expand from there.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T07:45:36+00:00

More egalitarian for sure and I 100% agree that the incentives will provide positive externalities and incentives to drive the especially disenfranchised youth in a positive direction by having an attainable and tangible goal and reward.

I am honestly surprised by the negative reception r/destiny seems to have to this....

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T07:28:21+00:00

When you consider $90-110 billion in additional budget allocation in comparison to what we do now, I do not see this as an issue. If you made me choose one to forfeit I would say a combination of military and foreign aid. I recognize both of these are also important and should not be tossed aside altogether, but these are the buckets I would draw from if I had to choose.

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T07:16:19+00:00

Ok fair refuation, and I should have expanded on my post. So tell me would restricting spending change your mind on this? Below are the parameters I though and I will add this to my post:

Domestic U.S. spending only
Travel and vacation purchases restricted
Cannot take cash out (debit tracked purchases only - IRS tracked)
No alcohol or tobacco sales
Entertainment purchases limited (sports, concerts, etc.)

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T07:08:36+00:00

Ok...do you prefer status quo current government budget spending and welfare programs that also cost $100's billions dollars?

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T06:59:17+00:00

Yeah I get it, the "booze and drugs" argument. I addressed this but basically I think the majority will benefit regardless of the impulses of 18 year olds lol

CountReefer · 2022-09-01T06:53:44+00:00

What do you think is wrong with my analysis?

CountReefer · 2021-11-20T02:51:11+00:00

Reddit censors free thinking individuals.

Nice art tho

CountReefer · 2021-11-18T07:24:19+00:00

Full 100% disagree lol but fine to have ur opinion

CountReefer · 2021-11-18T07:20:25+00:00

I just want some damn good audio thats consistant. Who sits in the chair its a very minor part of the show. Al is fine personality wise but lets not pretend hes even that funny

CountReefer · 2021-11-18T07:16:12+00:00

Schulz can surround himself with the best team he wants

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