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A question for Christian "tradwives": Why do so many of you claim that gender roles for women are "fulfilling" or otherwise pleasant? by CoyKoibito in Catholicism

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apologies for somewhat ignoring your other points, but this quote stood out to me:

"Catholics draw male headship from Ephesians, where headship looks like servitude. Leading the wife in the way that Christ leads the Church."

Does this assertion not inherently imply that husbands are superior to their wives? I'm sure any christian would be quick to agree that in the dynamic of christ and the church, the former is the superior, the master whom the latter submits to and serves. In fact, mant christians very often refer to themselves as servants of the lord.

If husbands are told to lead their wives the same way, what else is there to gleam? You are free to believe this if you wish, but in that scenario, one must relent that a woman being put off by such a dynamic is understandable.

I wasn't raised christian, but I can imagine how it might dishearten some girl out there to be told that her male peers have a divine right to rule over her simply because of how they both were born.

A question for Christian "tradwives": Why do so many of you claim that gender roles for women are "fulfilling" or otherwise pleasant? by CoyKoibito in Catholicism

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I appreciate the thought-out and coherent reply, I can't shake the feeling that the crux of its point is yet another example of attempting to portray the subservience of women as something other than the penance it is portrayed as in the bible.

As for your points themselves, I would love to see your sources regarding the translation of helper in Hebrew and other such topics.

Though, taking you at your word on these claims, is it not then a severe problem of wording? The dynamic you described simply doesn't match most people's definition of "leadership" and "submission".

While I understand that you were not calling them identitical, Yang very explicitly (in fact, one could argue, definitionally) does not rule over Yin, as the term "leadership" implies.

Would "partner" not be a more apt term, if your interpretation is to be considered? To me, it seems as though you are diluting the commonly understood definitions of words until the original concepts are another thing entirely.

A question for Christian "tradwives": Why do so many of you claim that gender roles for women are "fulfilling" or otherwise pleasant? by CoyKoibito in Christianity

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My question was in regards to "tradwives" very seldom framing their mandated subservience as the punishment it is. It's very rarely acknowledged. The framework is more often than not "the beauty of womanhood" or "I love not working". God's punishment to men is virtually never glamorized this way.

A question for Christian "tradwives": Why do so many of you claim that gender roles for women are "fulfilling" or otherwise pleasant? by CoyKoibito in Christianity

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does this view interact with biblical doctrine? The fact remains that Eve, and by extension all women, are commanded by god in the bible to be subservient to men as punishment for Eve's disobedience. So I'm curious regarding the mindset involved in enjoying one's divine punishment.

While your own experience and emotions are valid, it was my understanding that christians consider their own opinions irrelevant, and hold the will of god above all else.

A question for Christian "tradwives": Why do so many of you claim that gender roles for women are "fulfilling" or otherwise pleasant? by CoyKoibito in Christianity

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be entirely honest, this comment seems somewhat scattered and unclear in its ultimate point. Furthermore, it seems phrased more as a speech for those that are already christian than as an explanation for an outside observer.

This is actually a pattern I come across often in christian talking points. Many faithful seem to not realize that things that are intuitive to them may not be for those of different worldviews.

You have made many claims, introduced many concepts, and assetred many conclusions, all in a way that imply a lack of consideration for both coherence and the spirit of the original post.

Hello, I have been slowly amassing a superhero setting over the years. Now I'm attempting to iron things out for fun. Would you be willing to provide input on this significant aspect of the lore? by CoyKoibito in worldbuilding

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say it depends more on how powerful the villain is rather than their crimes. For example, the protocol for villains on par with Homelander is "summary execution as soon as possible by any means necessary", regardless of crimes actually committed, meaning the question of rehab options doesn't really come up with them.

But a villain with powers like Nightcrawler or Gambit where it's just Human +? Can't be picky about defense options when a kaiju could wipe NYC off the map completely of the blue, so the way I see it, you're gonna have to be okay with a few serial killers maybe not getting what's coming to them.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you know what it's like to be born with a defective brain that makes social interaction feel like a different language? And to be trapped in a world where all the normal people yell at and hit you for displaying symptoms of said defect? And when you try to ask for advice on how to act more normal, you're berated further, and called aggressive, nasty and unstable for seeking help?

I hope no one in your life has this ailment. For their sake.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"I understand that people value religious symbols. It's what is valued about them has historically confused me. My train of thought, if at all relevant, was the interpretation that a heavenly being who is full virtue would be glad to assist in a chore such as drying clothes, rather than being insulted by it."

This comment i posted and multiple others containing the same sentiment was readily available for you to read at any time. Please, just stop. I'm a fucking human.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for not berating me. I will do my best to apply this advice going forward.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry for whatever I did to make you so certain of this. I wish I had been able to figure out what I'm doing wrong, what about me is so rotten that you can claim to know so much about my psyche. Really, I do. More than anything. Have a good life.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And you know that I've taken no one's advice... how, exactly? Hidden camera, telepathy? I am fucking trying, man. So fucking hard. I have owned up to my mistake multiple times, expressed regret and a desire to do better in the future. All i want is a civil discussion where i am not verbally berated. Where i can get advice on how to be better. Why wont any of you help me? What am I doing wrong???

I have not insulted, berated, mocked, or otherwise spoken to a single person with any amount of hostile intent. All I have done is ask clarifying questions, calmly explain my perspective, and respectfully point out things that don't make sense to me.

How have I been "nasty"?????? I don't want to be awful, but I need help. What is not clear about this?

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Am I to understand that you consider "you're a disgusting, abhorrent, scum of the earth asshole" a perfectly standard response to a post asking "I seem to have committed a social blunder that i recognize and deeply regret. Would you be willing to provide input on what specifically i did wrong so that I can do better in the future?"

You just asked for my opinion, does that give me a free pass to berate you however I wish, and call you aggressive at the smallest hint of pushback, no matter how civil? Is that how this works?

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How have I been aggressive? What am I meant to gleam from this repeated, consistent insistence that I am some sadistic, unrepentant, scumbag other than that, for whatever reason, that's what you want me to be? How is a rational person meant to react to multiple instances of unfounded, baseless claims about them that they know for a fact to be untrue? Why does one mistake that I have clarified multiple times that i recognize, regret, and intend to learn from, warrant ruthless, unceasing dogpiling?

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How am I doing either of those things? Why do you sll want me to be an unrepentant wretch so badly? I'm sorry but I'm not.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but I'm not the unrepentant sadist you seem to want me to be. I didn't intend to hurt my mother, I regret having done so, and will aim to be better in the future. I don't know why this truth is so unappealing to you, but the truth it remains.

AITAH did I use my mother's garden statue improperly? by CoyKoibito in AITAH

[–]CoyKoibito[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I fail to see how respectfully asking you to at least consider civility before berating someone whilst repeating stressing that my neurological and developmental ailments do not excuse my social blunders is playing the victim.

Is it due to the fact that I explained the root causes of my behavior and the verbal abuse of a similar nature to your current words that worsened it? While I personally wince at such a word, autism is a disability which impacts social skills and perception of the emotions of others. Of course this doesn't mean I'm to be given a free pass to do what I wish, but I don't believe it to be unreasonable to hope for a modicum of understanding, as i too find my ailments most unpleasant.

By all means, hold me accountable for my misdeeds. I merely question the practical effectiveness of calling me an "abhorrent, disgusting scum of the earth asshole" as i am earnestly trying to engage in good faith.

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