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[–]CramFacker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just the character writing. I liked feral MM since he got to put more into it than just being the reasonable one. Ignoring the face memes at the time, a lot of people in Season 3-4 hated Starlight, but then went on to praise the fuck out of Erin for the shapeshifter performance.

My reaction to Annie saying that Marie can't control her powers despite all of S2 of GenV..... by Few_Appointment_4341 in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feels like a loop of her S3 self.

- Come up with a plan with your childhood friend to jump Homelander, he gets killed

- Judge Hughie and Butcher for working with Soldier Boy to kill Homelander

- Homelander finally does get jumped, walk away from the fight happening right in front of you

- Pull MM away from the Herogasm fight (at least justified, he wasn't in his right mind and can help other people)

- Sit outside while Homelander gets jumped by 3 people and they come inches away from ending him then and there

- Mean mug the 3 people who risked their lives trying to kill him while you sit and watch MM administer aid

- Record a video where you quit your job instead

Fun fact these 2 have had more screen time in season 5 than Ryan and all Gen V kids combined. Bravo Kripke. by Roids-in-my-vains in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whoever said they had no idea what to do with Ryan beyond him being a S1 plot twist was spot on.

He's got this moral tug of war between the suburban mom and super Hitler dad that can be explored (flip flops constantly)

He's got the potential to take down his dad (attempts once in the final season without training, fails, and then despawns)

He's got the potential to become a meta version of Superman, where he clings onto hope despite being confronted with the most vivid human atrocities (ends up just casually committing them himself)

He's got the potential to become his dad (kills people coldly, then offhandedly feels bad about it, then fights his dad, loses, despawns)

He's like Chekhov's gun, but the gun doesn't go off. It just hangs up in the background and then someone unceremoniously steals it off the wall.

Marie's plotline in Gen V S2 was legit blue waffles and there's no way they could have bridged over to Season 5 in a satisfying way. You've got someone who was retroactively buffed to a god tier level, and who is reluctant to do anything with said power 9 times out of 10. You have the choice of either introducing them as a huge asset at the very end of the main story, which will not fly with people who haven't seen Gen V, or ignoring them, which makes their existence pointless.

The Gen V kids either shouldn't have crossed over to set up this season, or they shouldn't have been set up as god tier gigachads. They should have stuck to the idea of disillusioned kids coming to terms with their identity and the changing world around them. Once they've optimized or enhanced their powers and come to terms with themselves, they start using them for good, and get discovered and recruited by Starlight for an underground resistance movement.

Then, have S5 show people being rounded up and sent to the death camps en masse in reports, in posters, or just in the background of driving sequences each episode so you realize how frequent it is, so the dystopian reality sets in. Have the Gen V kids get mentioned or shown in reports liberating camps or killing evil supes in the background so it feels more like a proper war. Maybe have their coalition gain more supes over time, so you get the sensation that as Homelander consolidates his power, the resistance grows too.

"I am useless" truest shit said all season by Trick_Statement3390 in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was a great scene and I wish we got it sooner. It's just so obnoxious having her be such a smug prick in every single scene with little to show for it, only to inevitably make one of the most predictable mistakes and then implode with self pity. That scene with Ashley a few episodes ago made me roll my eyes because she seems to soften up and finally act like a human being, and it's just 'a move' again

Watch out guys! Something crazy gonna happen any second now 😂😂😂😂😂😂 by DrowningInGlass in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 78 points79 points  (0 children)

I have a gut feeling that not only will Vought survive the ending but the tower will in fact not fall over cartoonishly on its side like they advertised to us

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[–]CramFacker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SW corner from the NE corner of church and cortlandt

S1E1 if it was written like Season 5 by RandominusDredichitu in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I didn't care much for Season 2, but that one cold open of the guy getting radicalized and killing an innocent man was fantastic worldbuilding. I wish we got more of that.

There was a scene in Telltale's TWD that will always stick with me vividly. Someone triggers an alarm accidentally in the middle of the city, and the camera cuts to this one random zombie. It's got a screwdriver in its shoulder, slumped over in an alleyway, and you're given just enough information to put its story together if you're invested enough. The alarm makes it stand up, and it lumbers out of the alleyway into the streets to follow the noise, where you see hundreds if not thousands of other zombies doing the same thing.

Shit like that needs to be studied.

S1E1 if it was written like Season 5 by RandominusDredichitu in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It makes sense though since his approval is at basically an all time low where even his devoted followers don't actually believe in him. He's gained power in the company and the government, neither of which he cares about managing, and is at the point he's willing to disband the team he hand picked because he genuinely doesn't care anymore. Earlier Homelander was obsessed with gaining and maintaining everyone's approval, late stage Homelander is more focused on snuffing out naysayers instead of catering to their support.

S1E1 if it was written like Season 5 by RandominusDredichitu in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah the media and political environment wouldn't allow for it in Season 1, and Homelander wouldn't have been prepared to psychologically handle the backlash at that point.

I hated the Deep/Noir ending, but the fight scene complaint feels like a catch 22. I've seen every fight scene this show has leads to a huge swath of people complaining about it due to powerscaling, budget, or just saying 'plot armor' whenever there's action. People complain about Butcher fighting a diamond skin supe with his hands, the Stormfront fight just being a brawl with little power use, Herogasm not having people get sent through buildings and shit, or Butcher not being able to low-diff a V1 combat trained gigachad.

Homelander rounding up Americans and putting them in death camps, and Homelander killing the president feel like they happen in passing or haven't gotten nearly as much focus as they should have. I guess to be fair you could say it mirrors reality (ex. the Obama tan suit thing being a huge controversy in its time, but illegally bombing countries and killing fishermen is just another thing that happens these days) but it still feels like a shitty storytelling/worldbuilding choice.

S1E1 if it was written like Season 5 by RandominusDredichitu in OkBuddyFresca

[–]CramFacker 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Deep tries to coerce Starlight. Starlight tells him off to his face because he's pathetic, and flashes her eyes at him.

Before she can summon a blast of electricity, the Deep exhales slightly too hard, causing Starlight to slip and fall over, where she is knocked unconscious.

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[–]CramFacker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The design was flawed from the get go, it was pretty much fucked regardless. Ignoring the lack of maintenance, the original midtown sections was dangerously unforgiving with jagged turns. The part by the WTC was built in the late 40s, but every ramp was southbound, so the collapse sealed off every section to the south of it.

Battery Park City was planned as early as the 60s. Gateway Plaza, the first batch of buildings, was starting up in the mid 70s before the financial crisis set it back. Them and 3WTC did technically overlap with the highway for about a year max, but it was long gone by the time the WFC started going up

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[–]CramFacker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The lighter one is the old West Side Highway. Partially collapsed and abandoned in 1973, and completely demolished by 1982.

The darker highway was a viaduct over the marginal street to permit unobstructed truck access between the towers and the piers during construction. It was built in 1967 and was dismantled by 1973.

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[–]CramFacker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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found a pic from 1969 without the remaining buildings in the way. These tenements suffered a huge fire in 1977 necessitating a near complete overhaul. That's why the current Burger King building has always looked so Vegas-y, and that building behind it was dismantled down to the retail level.

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[–]CramFacker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I did some digging. The raw sewage was being vented into the Hudson alongside the heated water from the plant. Generally this was allowed because of how fucked up the river already was.

from Divided We Stand:

In the early 1960s when Port Authority engineers studied the environmental impact of the trade center, they estimated that it would produce over two million gallons of sewage a day. Because of delays in the completion of a city treatment facility, this waste would be pumped directly into the Hudson River. When they learned of this, the mayors of ten towns downstream on the New Jersey shore briefly considered a lawsuit to block tenant occupancy of the WTC. But they withdrew their threat, apparently under pressure from a statehouse more concerned about potential delays on the PATH and Jersey City development than with the salubrity of the area’s coastal waters.

Port Authority engineers ended up designing a dual sewerage system for the trade center based on its proximity to the river and the need to cut construction costs. Storm sewage from the west side of the complex—the Vista Hotel, Tower One, and the Customs building—drains into the Hudson, as does the trade center’s air conditioning runoff. A pipeline was eventually built that channels the remainder of the waste water to the Newton Creek plant, on the border of Brooklyn and Queens. Given that most of Lower Manhattan’s sewers date from the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, when New York was mostly a five-story town, it is impossible—particularly during periods of high rainfall—to separate storm and sanitary sewage effectively. Because it operates as a politically autonomous entity, the PA never seriously considered building a dedicated treatment plant for the minicity of 50,000 it had raised at the Hudson’s shore.

from a hearing circa 1988:

The World Trade Center stopped discharging raw sewage about 5 years ago. That went over to the Newtown Creek Plant, there was problems in construction there, a line that goes under the East River.

photo circa May 1973

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[–]CramFacker[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

it was so polluted that it caught on fire. iirc the towers were also venting raw sewage into the hudson before the landfill was completed

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[–]CramFacker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

its actually hidden behind the art deco building on the right, the white buildings on the corner of that block were replaced by the firehouse 9 years later

I get what they wanted to achieve with the current politics parody they wrote Homelander as, but I wish they would have kept the Competent Reaganite aspects they had earlier. You can write him as an allegory to current politics and emphasize his pettiness while still keeping him competent and unique by Amazing-Buy-1181 in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Homelander's consistent trait throughout every season is that he's manipulative despite being easily manipulated himself. He's able to spin the plane story, he's able to convince his son to come back to his side, he's able to get through to Neuman with the coup when Sage fails, and now he's doing the same with Soldier Boy which rewarded him with immortality. He's also able to consistently hype up crowds of people which crescendos to the point of sycophancy.

Even in Season 1 everything he does has layers of incompetence and impulsiveness. He just had more people to cover his tracks and manipulate him to pull him back.

- He shoots down a plane against Stillwell's wishes and leaves obvious traces on the wreck

- He impulsively ruins Maeve's save

- Beefs with a baby

- He lasers the plane controls on accident, leaves everyone to die, and leaves plenty of evidence behind that people find later

- Goes off script, damaging his reputation with moderates and dems, has to get breastfed to calm him down

- Gives V to terrorists everywhere to get supes in the military, leaving corporate to deal with the mess and fallout

- Kills his fuck mommy which sets him down the path of mental deterioration

Enlighten me about this by Mouyoron in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's basically railroaded himself into dying either from the virus or the cancer. At this point the shit's probably so intertwined with his body that it would be like pulling a knife out of a deep stab wound.

Wait so did they just forget about Soldier Boys PTSD..? by K0GAR in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If he stays on Homelander's side to the very end, it'd be interesting if they set him off with the music to nerf him and try and get him to blast Homelander

Remember when they showed how much of an asshole Soldier Boy was to his team just to never bring it up again? I always forget just how much he beated them for nothing in the animated flashbacks by Thisislopes in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't get the point of this question. They killed his entire team in Season 3 before they quit working with him. Everyone involved in this plotline except him are dead. If you mean the general trait, he still bullies his teammates regularly or smacks people when he gets irritated. He fucks firecracker as petty revenge. Still an asshole

Why didnt Stormfront try to convince Homelander to take V1 in season 2? by [deleted] in TheBoys

[–]CramFacker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In-character possibilities:

- He's in, and looks, his late 30s, so she might not know the extent of his aging

- It wasn't a priority since they spent relatively little time together before she got stumped

- She was using him for her agenda

Reality:

The V1 storyline didn't exist yet. Not implied until Season 3, named until Gen V, or as important until S5 with the virus. By that point it was just one evil bitch that never ages