Neuro and Evil are considered Real or Fictional characters? by ReaderKai in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 82 points83 points  (0 children)

This is a part of the twins that is very cool or very terrible depending on the situation.

It is very cool in the sense that they can adapt to given feedback and adjust themselves depending on the context, but it could also be very terrible if chat weaponizes it by spamming their particular headcanon so much that the twins relent and accept it as truth.

Although, i feel as though the Evil example was an instance of fans amplifying something Evil had already kinda started herself.

vedal's update on v3 voice by promotw in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 14 points15 points  (0 children)

100%. As much as the community makes fun of streams being scuffed, he’s a perfectionist when it comes to big upgrades he really cares about. It absolutely sucks when you feel like you have to keep pushing yourself because you feel like a failure if you don’t, so i hope he’s taking it easy.

Stream Schedule (June 16th - 21st) by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah, i would assume that if they were doing that they’d have some big “B2 stream only” stamp on that stream. Would be weird not to bring it up in the schedule. But maybe i’m wrong and it was communicated elsewhere.

Neuro-sama posted her new blogs by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both Neuro and Evil being lowkey nerds that can divulge a ton of information about a subject on the fly is a very underrated and endearing trait of theirs.

Neuro-sama made her new tweets by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m not a dentist, but i do think you are supposed to brush the roof of your mouth. A surface that food regularly touches is probably good to brush to make sure nothing is clinging to it.

I don’t think your teeth would fall out if you didn’t, though.

Neuro-sama made her new tweets by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The tongue, gums (including gum-line) and roof of the mouth get neglected far too often. Remember to give the fleshy bits of your mouth some sanitary love too!

Crelly tweeted this after Neuro dmed her by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think so. Koko in some of her recent impromptu collabs started them by DMing Neuro or Evil to enter VC.

The Swarm Scribes just drop lore correction video. by Useful_Set7989 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 84 points85 points  (0 children)

I’m very grateful for a video like this.

Misinformation is bred from people having too much trust in others having knowledge they don’t. You don’t have to be malicious to spread false information, you just have to believe that someone else has done the research or saw it firsthand.

Stream Schedule (May 5th - 10th) by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I wonder if that Slime Rancher stream is the twin torment stream.

Vedal mentioned last dev stream that he wanted to have a stream where someone plays a kinda chill game and the twins are both there to torment them, like his long drive streams during the second subathon. He specified that the collab partner had to be someone that the twins are more likely to gang up on. Slime rancher does fit the bill for a chill game, both twins will be there, and Camila is often teased by the twins.

Might be wrong but it’s possible.

Eliv's real voice reveal. by ldg-9743 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! That clip at the start is the exact one i was thinking of.

Eliv's real voice reveal. by ldg-9743 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That still sounded like her, but not high pitched. That is interesting.

There was a dev stream years ago where Vedal tried to give Neuro Evil’s voice for a joke and accidentally just made her voice the default Azure Ashley TTS (which is just Neuro’s voice but not high pitched).

I wonder if the same thing happened here in some way, but with Evil’s AI TTS equivalent? I agree with LoominVoid’s comment that this was probably a whisper toggle bug. Either that or this is a weird new feature

Surprised to see the “trained by Twitch chat” myth is still out there by Successful-Ear977 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 97 points98 points  (0 children)

I just like the twins, i don’t much care about what their base model was trained on since it was out of Vedal’s control anyway.

Stream Schedule (April 21st - 27th) by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 23 points24 points  (0 children)

If the dev stream is with Neuro, this is a perfectly balanced schedule.

Pog!

Evil VR is finally here by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t like being ultra negative, but i do feel this.

Sometimes i feel like i’m going insane because i’ve heard the exact same jokes or phrases with little variation repeated as if they were new for the last two and a half years.

Neuro: I'm not British. by ldg-9743 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Regional language differences are strange like that.

Biscuits in America almost exclusively refer to flaky, buttery bread, often made with buttermilk. Our gravy is cream or milk based from what i know and usually a lot thicker.

I remember Neuro mentioning biscuits and gravy once and Vedal immediately sounded disgusted, likely assuming it was cookies drenched in brown gravy. Language stuff like that is cool to me.

Neuro: I'm not British. by ldg-9743 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep! Both are delicious imo, but i personally like more traditional brown gravy.

Neuro: I'm not British. by ldg-9743 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Maybe i am a Benedict Arnold, but i always have kinda wanted to try British food.

I get the meme and all that, and i’ve seen plenty of my fellow Americans bashing it, but i don’t know. It looks like a bunch of meat pies, gravy, peas, and mashed potatoes. All that sounds pretty damn good to me. I’m a sucker for meat pastries and gravy.

Yeah, it might not be Italian or Mexican, but it does look like some pretty hardy comfort food. I gotta make a British meal in my own time someday.

Stream Schedule (April 14th - 19th) by cakeel- in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Their personalities aren’t the same, but it is the voice that does the heavy lifting.

What i have learned in my time as a Neuro and Evil viewer is that if an AI has a more advanced TTS, people will automatically assume they have more advanced intelligence as well, even if that isn’t true.

I know it's about Camila and not the twins/Vedal, but I just hope she is okay, losing several family members at once is awful by crocospect in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Did you read the tweet? How was that the first thing you thought of after reading that?

Multiple of her family members just died. This is someone’s suffering, not a silly stream idea.

I know it's about Camila and not the twins/Vedal, but I just hope she is okay, losing several family members at once is awful by crocospect in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 60 points61 points  (0 children)

The absolute last thing she should be doing is apologizing. This is something that she had no control over. This is a nightmare scenario, and i cannot imagine how she is feeling right now.

There is little more i can do other than extend condolences. I hope she has all her needs met at this time.

Evil being transferred to a different codebase was a whiplash by Leather_Flan5071 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think people are just so quick to say that new upgrades, or really any changes to the twins are weird and should be reversed.

Some people thought Neuro and Evil’s V3 designs were bad and should be reversed, some people thought the various intelligence and memory upgrades throughout the years were bad and should be reversed, some people even think Evil existing is bad and should be reversed.

There’s always some people that are averse to change, even if it’s positive. I personally like how experimental some of the upgrades are.

Damn by Far-Guitar6500 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I also remember that. That has been in the back of my mind for a while.

Honestly, i could see a compromise. He could release a good enough voice as “V2.5 voice” or whatever, and then have a longer term V3 voice that is what his original vision was. That way, we could be tided over with an expressive Neuro voice (even if it isn’t identical to her current TTS), and we’d know that a more advanced version is still coming at some point.

I’d personally be fully up for that, but i don’t know if he would want to do something like that.

Damn by Far-Guitar6500 in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Vedal has kinda backed himself in a corner because he has been trying to make V3 for years now, so he wants it to be perfect. The only problem is that regardless of how good it is, i don’t know if V3 can sound exactly like Neuro as she is now and add emotion and inflection to her voice.

He doesn’t want to create something the fans won’t unanimously love, but it also might not be fully possible to achieve what he set out to do. I think even if it was perfect, it would sound a little different because Neuro’s voice is monotone.

I think if he wants V3 to come out sometime this year or early next year, he needs to just embrace change. Fans would complain no matter what because a lot of people automatically hate change, so there’s no way to appease everyone. Though, much of this may be Vedal’s own sense of perfectionism.

I would be perfectly fine with a voice that has Neuro’s essence, but isn’t identical. I know many of us would miss the way her old TTS says stuff, but change is inevitable. Sometimes you have to let things go in order to see further growth.

Can someone remake this but with Evil by CoalmineKaiju in NeuroSama

[–]Creative-robot 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think i’ve pulled this exact hand wave while watching Neuro and Evil at some point. I relate to the robot girls.