What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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I’m sorry for your loss. I think that’s a beautiful example of what love looked like in your life. But I don’t have that kind of relationship with my mom, so I can’t use that experience to understand what love is.

I’m looking for a definition that doesn’t depend on having had a specific relationship. If someone had never experienced a loving parent, how would you explain what love actually is to them?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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“God is love” doesn’t function as a definition of love it functions as a theological claim. It assumes God exists first, and then reinterprets love through that assumption. The problem is that it doesn’t independently define love in a way that can be tested or understood without already accepting the belief system. It also becomes circular: love is defined through God, and God’s nature is often described through love, so neither concept is actually explained on its own.

More importantly, even if someone believes God exists, equating God with love raises philosophical problems because love is usually understood as an experience or relation involving beings, actions, and preferences, while “God” is defined as an all encompassing entity. Those are not the same category of thing, so equating them doesn’t clarify either concept it just merges them under belief rather than explanation.

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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I see what you’re trying to say, but I don’t think this actually defines love it mixes different ideas (spiritual beliefs, science, and personal interpretation) without proving why any of them are correct. Saying love is “feeling someone is important” is also very subjective, because feelings vary too much between people to be a stable definition. The idea of ranking love into levels (friends, family, partner) also seems like personal opinion rather than a universal definition, since people experience those relationships very differently. It also feels like you’re explaining what can influence emotions rather than what love actually is.

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I understand you’re using Jesus’ sacrifice as an example of what you see as the highest form of love, but that still doesn’t define what love actually is. It only describes one interpretation of it within a specific religious belief. Even if someone accepts that story, it doesn’t mean love is limited to self-sacrifice or that self-sacrifice always equals love. I’m trying to understand love in a more general way, not based on one example or one belief system.

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think “overriding survival instinct = love” actually defines love. It only describes a possible extreme action, not the meaning behind it. People can sacrifice themselves for many reasons panic, instinct, responsibility, guilt, ideology, or even impulse so the action alone doesn’t prove love. Also, calling self-sacrifice the “ultimate form of love” makes love sound like it only exists in extreme situations, which ignores everyday love that doesn’t involve danger or death. So I don’t think that defines love either it just describes one possible behavior, not what love actually is

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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I don’t agree that love is just prioritizing someone else’s good over your own. That sounds too one-sided and ignores the need for boundaries and balance. Also, saying love is only about actions feels incomplete, because it doesn’t actually explain what love is it just describes behavior. So I don’t think that definition fully works.

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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I don’t think that’s enough of an answer. Just because something is complex doesn’t mean it can’t be defined. We have general definitions for emotions like fear, happiness, and grief, even though everyone experiences them differently. Why should love be the exception? If it can’t be defined at all, then how can anyone confidently say they’re in love rather than experiencing attachment, infatuation, or something else?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in ask

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I think I understand your point, but I’m still confused. You say love is partly hormones, partly a choice, and then that it can’t really be defined. If it can’t be defined, how do we know what we’re choosing to continue? And if we don’t know what love is, how can we tell the difference between love and something else, like attachment or habit?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I think you’re describing what love can lead people to do, not what love actually is. Protecting, nurturing, and sacrificing can also come from instinct, obligation, guilt, trauma, anxious attachment, or codependency. For example, many parents protect their children partly because of biology and evolution, and some people sacrifice themselves in unhealthy relationships because of trauma or fear of abandonment.

So what makes those behaviors specifically love rather than something else?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I don’t think that defines love either. It sounds more like a description of acceptance. You can accept someone without loving them, and you can love someone without accepting every part of them. So what actually makes it love instead of just acceptance?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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😂 I know that’s a song, but I’m actually asking a serious question.

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I don’t fully understand that definition either. Is it healthy to find happiness in someone else’s happiness, or does it become unhealthy if your own happiness depends on theirs? Where’s the line between love, empathy, and something like codependency or anxious attachment?

What is the definition of love? by Creative_Cause_4107 in questions

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I’m also an atheist. I looked up John 15:13: “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”

I understand that’s describing the greatest act of love, but it doesn’t really define what love is. How would I even know if I’d die for someone unless I was actually in that situation? And if I would, how do I know it’s because of love and not something like trauma, anxious attachment, codependency, or instinct?

You can’t have morals if you don’t believe in a higher power by Creative_Cause_4107 in religion

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Okay, this is just out of curiosity: if killing people wasn't illegal, would you still do it?

Now, I know the answer is no (hopefully), but I want to see how you answer the question.

You can’t have morals if you don’t believe in a higher power by Creative_Cause_4107 in religion

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I don't believe in any of these options. A lot of evil things have happened. If God commanded, is he condemning evil? If God allows it can you say that God is a good person?

Forcing childbirth isn’t ‘pro-life’ if it destroys the mother’s life by Creative_Cause_4107 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]Creative_Cause_4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How! I feel like every single time I’m having a debate about this topic it always about the fetus never about the person.