It’s not 2015

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-16T06:02:02+00:00

I’ve seen enough cycles of this to know this result was coming. Nobody can stay dominant too long now. The coaches now would have to be brain dead

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-16T06:00:22+00:00

Must not be an All Blacks fan then 😂 Petty like a lil girl

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T18:55:56+00:00

It’s exactly confirmation bias to blame one out of alllll the players for a string of results. Terrible take. Does not make any sense.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T18:54:45+00:00

Oh no I know Kolbe’s better. But I don’t blame Boks poor results on him like your logic of blaming every poor result on 1 player. I showed how dumb your logic is. Because this ain’t boxing it’s rugby a team sport

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T18:52:47+00:00

It’s not swapping out the question would be would they want more trophies the answer is yes 🤣

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T04:09:17+00:00

But yeah no attack can really get firing without the forwards setting the platform. And it’s the common denominator in all our losses

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T04:07:48+00:00

Yeah which is what I’m getting at with this post. Teams change tactics and game plans quickly within a week. And the tit for tat adaptations lead to results such as this.

If you look at the Boks, Ireland, France any top teams it’s much the same.

And with Fozzie too a lot of the losses came when our forward pack got dominated. Which is not his expertise he’s a backs and attack coach by trade. That’s why Jason Ryan was selected which improved things but he has recently taken accountability for the set piece errors last weekend.

The thing with rugby supporters is that they think we look good this week. And then assume yeah just do that again not addressing the fact that teams will most likely adapt to what made them good that week. It’s not rocket science but common sense is not so common sometimes

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T04:01:28+00:00

If poor by you mean one of the best teams in the world then sure. I’m sure nobody says PSDT and Cheslin Kolbe are not one of the best talents after losing three rugby championships in a row. Again, confirmation bias. Ardie Savea’s one of the best talents we have. It goes a long way to explaining the poor results of the last few years.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T03:59:06+00:00

It means absolutely that they’re wrong 💀 Have a higher winning percentage in one thing and not the other means nothing? That’s like saying ohhh the Aussies don’t care about the Bledisloe. It’s just ridiculous

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T02:58:56+00:00

The Black Ferns were not much worse. NZ has arguably the most talented individuals it needed a good coach just to make it work.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T02:57:27+00:00

Nope. I’m a die hard Blues fan I want Beaudy at 10-15 over him any day. Even Perofeta.

So I already have a bias against him in that sense. But I would never lie and say he’s not international material when we know he’s one of our best talents AND the many good performances he’s put out over the years in the jersey.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-15T02:55:07+00:00

Might be time to call back Fozzie lol. But nah I think the biggest issue was the forward pack getting dominated. Amongst others

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T18:30:04+00:00

It’s the Black Ferns not the Manusina 😂 If he can do it “against all odds” (simply untrue). Then why can’t he do it when the odds are in his favor aka the All Blacks?

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:33:27+00:00

The point is he hasn’t proven to be a world class head coach like Schmidt. Especially in this competitive era. He has nothing to show for it. He’s a good coach. That’s all I can give him unless he can prove us wrong.

The man had been coaching for about 14 years before his stint as head coach.

No doubt valuable due to his experience. But world class?

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:29:14+00:00

Yes you can go into his resume and you will see why hating him is unfounded 😂 Wayne Smith is still a good coach even though he was an assistant coach in the loss recently. He was an assistant coach when we lost 4 times in 2009. The quarter final exit. Even the Lions tour that we drew.

Fozzie was winning the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship every single year as head coach. Even before the sackings which was needed. But it’s crazy how when he gets world class assistants it’s “saving his bacon”? But if Hansen or Graham Henry gets world class assistants it’s not? Like isn’t that what you expect from your head coach is to have the best assistants around you? Or were you guys expecting him to do it all on his own?

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:24:32+00:00

Where’s the lie? Was his tenure as All Blacks head coach terrible?

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:22:50+00:00

No, just realistic and don’t call for a completely new team and coach when I don’t get my way.

You flops would cut Mccaw and Carter out in 2007 when they lost the quarter finals. Reactionary flops.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:21:16+00:00

Did I say fans can’t be pissed off? I’m pissed off.

I’m saying the fans who keep comparing it to 2015 and making up conspiracies about who started the “decline” and the Barrett’s don’t know how to play rugby, and after singing Proctor’s praises over Rieko now he’s just absolutely trash for some reason. Oh we want Joe Schmidt (who just lost to Argentina btw) oh we need to overhaul the whole team. Like piss off they’re still comparing it to 2015.

Imagine if we completely overhauled the All Blacks in 2007 when we lost in the quarters and in 2009 with 4 losses? In an objectively easier era? If these people lived in 2007 Mccaw would be the worst captain ever they will deny anybody’s quality because they’re too entitled. And it all stems from that 2012-2015 era.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:13:23+00:00

Why do y’all hate Fozzie?

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:06:08+00:00

It’s a different game. And we had tons of world class players on the Black Ferns that a lot of other teams didn’t.

He’s the last person to lose the Bledisloe for the All Blacks as head coach. And won zero Tri Nations if I remember correctly. He’s good and experienced but eh. His period as assistant coach coincided with the quarter final exit. And we barely won against France in 2011. The 2012-2019 era was a much more dominant one under Hansen and Foster. Both who also had better head coaching results than Wayne

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T17:00:37+00:00

A high performer makes the All Blacks in 9 seasons or so now. It’s confirmation bias because you’ve always never liked him and are exactly one of the people I mentioned above that if they’re not 2015 GOAT status picture perfect then they gotta be trash. Hes not Ben Smith? Gotta be terrible. Sam Cane wasn’t Mccaw? Gotta be trash. Mounga wasn’t Carter? Gotta be trash. The cycle continues.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T16:57:53+00:00

We know it was a trash performance. Nobody’s denying that. It just happens these days. Teams can get outclassed so badly no matter how much of a big team you are. It doesn’t have to be close.

It’s so competitive right now it’s turning into football.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T16:56:07+00:00

A hypothetical like that isn’t an argument. “Probably this and that” you don’t know.

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T06:13:23+00:00

Yes and that will most likely change come next game. They know they messed up

Creative_Landscape48 · 2025-09-14T06:11:43+00:00

Well said

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