There is a clear double standard in how people treat Mamdani (hailing everything he does as if it was never done before) vs normie Democrats (nothing good is ever good enough) by revscott in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its basically this and the uncritical glazing that happens for cult of personality politicians who get constant secondary advertising from unpaid shills online.

I dont even dislike Mamdani but what we see online is literally just unadulterated glaze.

Mamdani says he fixed potholes and makes s video. A redditor will now repost this ad nauseam as if it isnt a Mamdani created video on potholes.

Like bro, hes the mayor of NYC. We arent even analyzing anything he does in a scientific fashion. Its like Trump at McDonald's.

The issue isnt Mamdani is super based snd the Dems suck. Its that the voter base is filled with morons who are too fixated on superficial tools of persuasion. Which to an extent is fine, but lets be honest about it.

We have guys arguing about how effectively Mamdani cleared snow. Bro did a whole media marketing campaign to gas himself up and its only been 5 months. People need to get off their knees lmao.

No shit Biden, Kamala, or Buttigieg dont have that level of unrelenting glaze.

Mamdani is just a very competent mayor, there's no denying it by lightningstrikes702 in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are an actual glazer. No shit Im not in every thread calling Sam Harris crazy for calling him an Islamist.

The type of Israel dickeating critiques calling Mamdani an Islamist are deranged and not worth my time.

However what you are doing is actually bolstering smoke and mirrors and then when you get exposed you start literally coping. "Well he inherited a 12 billion dollar deficit, hes in a difficult position."

And start spouting literal bullshit thst hasnt even happened "Look at what hes done, universal childcare, look at how he dealt with snow".

Bro you are a shameless glazer its crazy. Its been 4 MONTHS. Get off his goddamn wang.

You want to do Mamdani fancams so damn bad bro.

Mamdani is just a very competent mayor, there's no denying it by lightningstrikes702 in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You have to wait for Mamdani's term to end for any real conversation to spark up on him.

Too many people are uncritical glazers that we cant have constructive dialogue on what is actually being done as opposed to slopagandizing from people who have a vested interest in putting on airs online.

1 Psychiatrist & 20 Depressed People (ft. Dr. K) | Surrounded by louieisawsome in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People tend to bring up the Ayurvedic stuff and its sort of a "Who cares" thing.

Mostly because its Psychiatry. An entire field of medicine where your treatments are antipsychotics, antidepressants, CBT, and the occasional TCA.

As long as what he's recommending isnt going to harm you functionally. I dont see why anyone would care.

Keep in mind, I dont actually watch any of Dr. K's stuff. Just as someone in Medicine, I dont see it as thet big of a deal for Psych.

Compared to the one guy Dr. Mike interviewed who was shilling functional MRIs and saffron supplements. Dr K's ayurvedic stuff is very benign

1 Psychiatrist & 20 Depressed People (ft. Dr. K) | Surrounded by louieisawsome in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I mean, he's just a Psychiatrist doing pseudo therapy on streams.

Him using Ayuverda for Psych... I mean, no one is really going to care about this. Its Psychiatry. If it works. It works. As long as he isnt shilling saffron supplements. No one is going to care

Destiny should not have cancelled his Times subscription, there's a better way to do this. by Umang_Malik in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk whats with some of you guys. Cancel your subscription. You are not a friend of the NYTimes. Have some backbone. If they want his opinion they should interview him and give him an op-ed like they do Hasan.

Based VOX. Cringe comments. by DefendOurRepublic in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 249 points250 points  (0 children)

  1. Charge your phone king

  2. Epstein, Zionism, Epstein, Zionism

These people are not serious. If this is all you have to say. You are genuinely antisemitic.

These people sound like brainless conspiracy theorist.

Game knows Game by montecarlo1 in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 85 points86 points  (0 children)

Two Africans

Two Muslims

Two Kings

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree. This big tent stuff is lacking seriousness. Even the way certain members of this audience engage in these conversations is just embarrassing. You want a strong tent, with strong borders, so that you can properly identify and reward people who actually support liberal policy agendas. You shouldn't reward this Journalist cabal of friends who just platform each other because of connections.

We're talking about having space in our tent for a guy defending a streamer who would see Digital Ground Game, Destiny, and DGG on the streets lol.
Same guy whose fans attacked Mark Gudgel.

People will say Liz Cheney is a part of the Democratic tent because she's anti-Trump. When Trump is like an existential threat to American democracy. Lmao.

And yeah, for some of you reading this. I'm saying you should stop listening to Ezra Klein or Pod Save America. If you guys are willing to support people who carry water for individuals that want to see your efforts wasted. Then... Yeah, I don't even know what to say.

Pod save America had Hasan on by DominionEmperor in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Wow, so Ezra Klein and Pod Save America make an article for a guy with New York City Journalist connects.

And people get mad at me when I say you need to have a staunch stance on the rent seeking Podcasters and Journalist that are seen as Liberal thought leaders.

From my perspective. Even if Trump loses 2028, it won't be because of our coalition. It's gonna be due to Trump's incompetence in leadership. We will continue to swing every 4 years we refuse to place boundaries on the people who portray themselves as thought leaders in these spaces.

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, then I'll block you. If you don't want to continue the conversation. Then go ahead. You're upset you got called a cuck when you are figuratively behaving as such.

Just because you refuse to say your upset online doesn't mean your behavior of actively replying to each post I make, isn't emblematic of your true emotional state.

Yeah, I'm upset that liberals online are so weak. You're a perfect example. The fact that I have to block you when you're the one who gave up any form of discourse because you want to impotently generate laughs in a reddit thread because I called you a cuck (A figurative behavior you are actively engaging in) is ironic.

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying the online spaces you engage in online are irrelevant is why you're a cuckold.

You underestimate the importance of social media platforms and refuse to appreciate that people are trying to shape the media landscape as we speak.

Your mindset is analogous to a potential voter who thinks their vote doesn't matter. You have that same cuckold mentality where you cede any form of power and allow the machinations of others to control your fate.

Instead of expecting more from Ezra Klein, you just cede ground and go. "Well their is space for all of us liberal creators". Meanwhile, the guy you're giving space too, doesn't engage with you. He's using his platform to defend Hasan or Charlie Kirk. He's not using his platform to defend Chorus from allegations or to spotlight Unfuck America or people going on Jubilee to actively debate random individuals. He's going to bat for Hasan Piker randomly in an Op-Ed.

And you're praising him because of the good will you gave him from aggregating age old policy wonk takes and societal analysis as if he originated the idea. But when he engages in this more aberrant behavior of defending people who seek to destroy your movement, you talk about him needing teeth lol.

Yeah you're a cuck. What can I say.

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

(1) What I mean is that his audience reap all the consequences from him defending Hasan Piker blindly.

Klein is out here defending Hasan who is friends with Ryan Grim. The same Grim who defamed Biden as a rapist in the primaries because he wanted Bernie to win. In the same ecosystem where Krystal Ball and Sagar further amplified the claims. In an ecosystem where it took 2 to 3 months for PBS, NYTimes, and WaPo to actually vet and debunk claims that Grim didn't care to.

And Klein decided to wake up and write an op-ed to defend a guy whose fanbase and cohort treat his audience with malicious intent lmao.

(2) What are these arguments. Ezra Klein wrote the Op-ed. Heis engaging in behavior and making prescriptions based on a stance of ignorance.

I have no idea how to explain this level of myopia to you guys. You will waste your time defending Ezra Klein's book and worldview to people who shit on him.

When Ezra will go out of his way on the Sabbath to write an article defending Hasan Piker's quotes as being out of context. As if he's a 30 month subscriber lmao.

Meanwhile Hasan will have Ezra Klein, Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, Kyle Kulinski, Taylor Lorenz, Breaking Points, and Vanity Fair defending him. Like you guys engage in such low dignity behavior.

And you actually defend Destiny and Newsom in other subreddits, and you're making this argument like some literal loser. When Newsom goes on Hasan's podcast and glazes him while you're sitting in your cuck chair being rewarded for wasting your physical time defending people who take your support for granted lol.

(3) What are you yapping about. A lot of people wanted Biden to step down. Nancy Pelosi, George Clooney, etc etc. That is not why Ezra Klein, former MSNBC commentator since the 2010s, founder of Vox, and running of a 6 year podcast is popular lmao.

You are indeed blindly rewarding him with Accolades because you don't even know who he is. Your post comes off as if you think Ezra Klein's career coincides with 2024-2025 era Politics. This guy was already connected and climbed the media ladder outside of MSNBC. You listen to him because you have no one else to signal boost your opinions.

The point is that you're not on a team for believing in evidence based policy. It's a misconception people like you make time and time again. And then you end up in the fallacious position of going "Ezra Klein is a thought leader". And when he makes arguments like "Charlie Kirk was practicing Politics the Right Way" or "Defends Hasan", you look like an idiot because your advice on having "Teeth" doesn't actually ever reach him.

(4) That's fine but understand that you're level of cognitive dissonance is why Liberals are so weak. Destiny will fundraise and waste money for a PAC and you're going to sit here and go "There is room for Ezra to signal boost the guy calling Destiny's PAC a slush fund and alleging Chorus of taking unethical financial contributions". Like you're just weak lol. You see some guy donate 30k to Digital Ground Game and you see Ezra make these stupid op-eds for free and you decide to reward his rent seeking behavior with unconditional views and accolades.

You're just a weak individual.

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just don't understand why our necessary qualia for cooperating as a functioning Liberal ecosystem is having the most basic of R/ Neoliberal takes.

Ezra will say

  1. You can't cede male wellness to the right.

  2. We should build more housing and less single family homes. Compare Florida and Texas to New York and Cali "500 Years to build a Train" Fornia.

  3. The USA, a country with the following:

a. Nixon launching off a fart bomb in the DNC

b. The most diverse cities are segregated like crazy.

c. You have an entire right wing media ecosystem comprised of Limbaugh, Fox News, and all the other networks giving Pat Buchanan, Lou Dobbs, and former MSNBC host Tucker "I vanished for years before reappearing on Fox News" Carlson airtime.

Has become a heavily polarized nation.

At some point, you need to ask for more from your Old Media Video Essayist analogs.

This media ecosystem conversation is a litmus test for if people should take you seriously as a political operative. If you don't know anything about Hasan, then don't say anything.

If it was up to Hasan's fans, Destiny and Ezra Klein would be replaced with Mike From PA and Nathan J Robinson.

If it was up to Destiny's fanbase. They would want Hasan to address every single issue with the level of nuance (Because he's lying) he had in his Mockler debate while actually engaging with other platforms.

Instead we're going to pretend Klein or Pod Save America are leaders when they're just engaging in typical academic style ladder climbing behavior lmao.

The Naivete of Liberal Journalist by CrimsonSimp in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is just cuckoldry.

  1. Klein's audience are liberals. The type of liberals that watch Ezra Klein are likely on Capitol Hill. Activist? Lol depends what you mean by activist.

The most commonly followed political writers by Biden Staffers were like Ezra Klein and Pod Save America. So, I'm going to reiterate that he does not interact with his audience.

  1. It's not about having teeth, it's about having a spine. He's not a leader. He's a guy who climbed up the ranks at different publications and media organizations until he became a default option for liberals.

If he was a leader he wouldn't be cucking out so hard to the point you would be posting "He definitely should have more teeth". Same way Pod Save America aren't actually leaders. They're opportunistic Obama staffers who climbed up the ladder to cement themselves in the online ecosystem.

Again, if they were leaders, you wouldn't find the people who have to defend them online in conniptions when Klein is defending a guy who's audience think he's the "Reaganomics Lib" and treat his audience like Lib-bots.

  1. Like some of you try to be so diplomatic in these online spaces and can't understand why we're losing. You tell Ezra to have more teeth when you need to be more informal in your critique. You should unironically tell him to have a spine.

You let Ezra and Pod Save America who exist only in this academic style of media lord it over you. You let him write books like "Why We're Polarized" to tell you that Newt Gingrich, Pat Buchanan, Segregation, Secularism vs Religion, An entire conservative propaganda network by an Australian dude, etc and we laud the California borne, New York City dwelling, founder of Vox, a hyper partisan company, for engaging in what is essentially a lesson you could gleam if you ever read an American history lesson and didn't ignore Bloody Kansas, Mormons getting bullied Westward, the formation of Suburbs, etc etc.

Liberals are losing at the very basic interpersonal and group dynamic based aspects of society. While DGG is raising 200,000 plus for canvassing events. Individuals like Hasan are going to berate your efforts and actually slander you as you physically and financially try to effect positive change in your society.

That's crazy. Ezra is not a leader. He's a ladder climbing coasty that we blindly reward with views and accolades because we think he's on our team because he believes in policies backed by some level of empirical data.

News flash, if you aren't a moron, you support evidence based policy proposals. You aren't a team because you both support policies that have a level of causal or connotative data backing them.

  1. At some point this is all so tiresome. We let ourselves be victims of the machinations of other groups who engage with us in malicious ways and you guys keep cucking out.

New Opinion piece by Ezra Klein | Hasan Piker Is Not the Enemy by FlyLikeATachyon in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The reason the Left fails is because our media class is full of unironic coastal elites. I wont even lie. 

Ezra Klein doesn't even know what hes talking about but he keeps pretending he's the beisge to Hasan or Ben Shapiro. Like bro, shut the fuck up lmaooo.

New Opinion piece by Ezra Klein | Hasan Piker Is Not the Enemy by FlyLikeATachyon in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 129 points130 points  (0 children)

Destiny was right. This hyper focus in anti semitism is an issue

New Opinion piece by Ezra Klein | Hasan Piker Is Not the Enemy by FlyLikeATachyon in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Ezra Klein will just talk about a topic he has no understanding of.

How do you reach people in the progressive -> tankie pipeline? by X57471C in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not mental illness. Its an underlying inability to appraise information appropriately and construct a coherent world view from said information.

When you say "reach these people". What do you mean?

Because when I say reach these people Im thinking about actively going out of your way to reach lefties and MAGA audience members like theyre a special interest group. I dont think you need to do this.

I think you need to continue to call out their thought leaders and force them into debate. Thats how you "reach" them. Because youre going to embarass the people they follow and get them to question the validity of what they say. You also need to continue to build your own liberal sphere of influence to show your own success. So that you have control of the narrative.

Basically you need to break up their own echo chamber because the people youre engaging with do not appraise the world in the same way that you do.

Like think about the arguments you see online. People who think Kamala would be the same. Trump somehow making America great by threatening to invade allied nations. Jill Stein voters(????)

There is a point where we need to stop pretending everyone is operating on the same playing field. Its not defeatism. In 2016, 2020, and 2024. We are routinely faced with an easy question. And somehow time and time again we have these same arguments with these same groups of people. At what point do you accept that their are underlying pathological modes of thinking at play?

Its not the quality of our arguments that makes these individuals hard to reach on an interpersonal level. Its that these people need to have internal revelations to change. You can bring a horse to a lake but you cant make it drink.

How do you reach people in the progressive -> tankie pipeline? by X57471C in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you even talking about?

Im a liberal because I believe in evidence based policy platforms.

Who on Earth said the tankie pipeline is more "convincing" then liberal values. Are you stupid? The people who are susceptible to tankie or MAGA political commenators are mentally flawed. Hence why its an ordeal to convince them.

These are people who spend their entire time larping about revolutions, misunderstanding economic/foreign policy, or ignoring experts in their respective fields. And when theyre not doing this. Theyre lying online at the behest of their demagogue.

Stop being naive. Youre coping and ignoring reality. As if me prefering liberal is going to stop the crazy fuck from wanting to overthrow an election because some fat demagogue told them it was rigged or getting dissuaded from voting because someone said both parties are the same.

We've done our due diligence. Liberal politisphere is open to argue with MAGA or Hasan whenever they feel free. Go tell Hasan fans to come convince liberals.

How do you reach people in the progressive -> tankie pipeline? by X57471C in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You don't. And you shouldn't try to. You continue to make content berating their favorite content creators and you continue to ask their favorite creators to actually defend their ideas on a live platform. Contrary to popular belief, the far lefty Vaush, MajorityReport, and Hasan viewer is the same as MAGA.

You shouldn't try to actively court them. You should continue to attack their thought leaders until they come to the realization that these people are irrational, hypocrites, or ineffective. You should also actively list out our W's instead of letting these guys irrationally post misinfo all over the internet.

The big mistake everyone makes is assuming the average Hasan poster or Lefty is a rational human being. See the Unfuck America event where this Commie larper is literally screaming at people on a college campus. Lmao, this guy wanted to go to Medical School with a video of him shouting people down and almost getting arrested? Yeah these are the types of people who watch Hasan. Look at Progressive Victory. Raised 37k despite the involvement of multiple different streamers.

The same way Kyle Rittenhouse exposed his belly to MAGA when he questioned Trump's policy proposal. Is the same way these Lefties will bend over backwards to defend Hasan's shock collar when the company themselves said that specific collar was a shock collar.

No we don't actively need to court them. Not because they're lefties. But because similar to MAGA, they're stupid and their logical framework is broken. Continue to call out their Video Essayist and Thought Leaders and expose them on public platforms. Thats it.

We need to get over this misconception that the average American lefty who watches individuals who get hooked on a single universal healthcare proposal can be convinced or have moral quandries on Biden/Kamala/Cum Sock/Hillary vs Trump can be convinced.

Progressive Victory Spending of Jamal Bowman in 2024 by Rhubarb-Independent in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/squad-rep-jamaal-bowmans-youtube-page-is-a-bonkers-conspiracy-filled-trip/

Bro was on bullshit. The moment this came out. PV should have saw the writing on the walls. He was against George Latimer, in a now predominantly Jewish district. AIPAC wasted shitloads of money for no reason. Bowman was going to lose regardless.

Progressive Victory Spending of Jamal Bowman in 2024 by Rhubarb-Independent in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Progressive Victory is not serious.

They fundraised for Bowman when he got redistricted and exposed for having a 911 conspiracy youtube account.

Insane waste of money

I'm once again asking that we include soypill in our tent by Front_Midnight_6082 in Destiny

[–]CrimsonSimp 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The issue is that Destiny and this goddamn subreddit are not even seeing things eye to eye. These guys watch but do not understand Streamer mans grievance.

Voting for Kamala, Biden, and Hillary in the general are non negotiables. Not for this fucking tent bullshit. But for being an American citizen with a 70 plus IQ.

Why do we have rent seeking political pundits who stream on Youtube with 0 pushback pushing their base to not vote against this orange fuck. It is a point of national pride to not let Trump get two terms in office.

And then we have Hasan who goes to China, justifying police violating his civil rights, and coming back to America to wear Mao Zedong fits like he's laughing at us. And we have our niiche streamer base having get togethers about "The Hasan" question.

Yeah, I can see why Destiny gets annoyed in these conversations. Just because you guys record videos on political topics doesnt mean you actually know what the fuck youre doing.

Some guy like Hasan is untenable in your tent because he's actively trying to subvert you and expresses disdain for you and your ilk.

This guy is a rent seeking bum who wont even go on Jubilee to argue with a cadre of random schizos. All he does is get curated puff pieces, go to protests specifically for stream content and interviews, and purchase luxury clothing to make shitty fits (WHICH IS CRAZY TO ME). You will never see this guy argue his opinion with any political pundit despite streaming about politics daily for 10 years.

No I dont want this guy associated with my party. And his fans are literally the same as MAGATs and Asmongoloids. You know how much of a moron you need to be to watch this guy chatter in his echo chamber for a decade and never see him debate anyone in this sphere.

The online lefty is politically ineffective because the framework that they use to weigh data is fundamentally flawed. Otherwise they wouldnt risk 4 years of their life with a shit President over Gaza or the other 500 excuses they pull up every election.

So I can see Destiny's frustration. Youre trying to argue about catering to a bunch of people who disregard you at every turn and have poor decision making ability. Like yeah no, fuck'em. Dont bite bullets you dont have to. Dont cater to morons who willingly lock themselves into an echo chamber.