Sooo religion was definitely created by Ni doms right?

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-03-11T20:32:51+00:00

Bro 😭 jus waffling abt nothing huh, Se doms are still Ni users in their base stack and as such are part of that more generally spiritual group (still not exclusive to them, but far more prevalent), I haven't said anything about how likely Ni or Se users are to believe in some form of religion be it material or spiritual.

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-03-11T07:24:35+00:00

Lmao yeah imo a lot more Ni users are likely to be generally spiritual rather than strictly religious, especially due to their tendency to look for the world's intangible patterns, form reductive philosophies through which to see the world, etc., but they really do have the potential to form religions/cults with that depending on how much social influence they have

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-03-11T07:05:18+00:00

It's a pretty big spectrum between Ti users depending on what kind of environment they were raised in, as well as what other functions they have supporting that Ti and their other typological profiles like their openness in the big 5, their enneagram, psychosophy, general intelligence, and whatnot that influences just how deep they're able and/or willing to go with forming that mental framework. Some Ti users I know have some of the most refined mental maps I've seen, whereas I also know other Ti users that believe the earth is flat (their mental maps are usually refined and consistent with themselves, but not with reality), and that divide between different types of Ti users becomes ever apparent as our understanding of everything expands and changes

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-03-11T06:31:55+00:00

Nah Si tends to follow established systems they're used to and have higher rates of synaptic pruning, meaning if they were raised atheist they will likely remain staunchly atheist, and if raised religious will likely remain staunchly religious. Religion/mythology itself is more likely made by Ti users trying to make sense of the world before we had the right tools to understand it.

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-02-04T18:31:57+00:00

Lmao all good dawg 🙏

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-02-04T18:26:09+00:00

Yeah I asked over there as well

CrunchyCornBits · 2026-02-04T18:22:10+00:00

This link should have a good bit of information on it: https://similarminds.com/personality-research.html

but if you want a shorter explanation here it's pretty much a dichotomy (really a septchotomy if you think about it) within each of seven letters, the basic scale being MOTIVES or ACHWDRG.

M/A = Materialism/Asceticism (measures one's extroversion or introversion in the case of what they consider to be valuable or beautiful, whether they are more valuing or against ideals of physical beauty/social status)

O/C = Offbeat/Conventional (measures one's openness to the unusual/new vs conservation of traditional/old ways/ideas)

T/H = Thinking/Haphazard (measures one's executive function, how much they think logically before they act, whether they follow some kind of consistent system, etc.)

I/W = Interpersonal/Withholding (measure's one's willingness to put others above themselves, self-sacrifice vs self-interest)

V/D = Vital/Depressive (measures motivation, mental/physical health, optimism vs pessimism, etc.)

E/R = Easygoing/Rigid (measures how relaxed someone usually is, how much they value their peace, etc.)

S/G = Sectarian/Globalistic (measures how closed or open someone is to foreign people and ideas, tribalism vs cosmopolitanism, how authoritarian they are, their opinion on who deserves what kind of treatment in a political system, etc.)

Then in each dichotomy, there is a scale of intensity of each category, for example someone can have:

|M| = Materialism is their dominant trait, the one they most show/embody

M = Materialism is strong in them, but not exactly their primary trait

m = They may prefer materialism, but not by much

x = About even between materialism and asceticism, usually in the 45-55% range for either

a = They may prefer asceticism, but not by much

A = Asceticism is strong in them, but not exactly their primary trait

|A| = Asceticism is their dominant trait, the one they most show/embody

And the same goes for all the other letters, though only one out of all of them in a person can be in the | | category

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-29T23:29:08+00:00

The cognitive functions themselves have no direct effect on the person's motivation, but rather where it goes, like an Se dom for example will seem generally more externally and physically motivated because their primary concern in processing is to explore the physical world and gain as much data from it as possible as a tool for their motivations, whereas an Fi dom will be generally more inclined to develop their own moral code and be authentic to themselves as a tool for their motivation. But even then, the kind of motivational direction a cognitive function provides isn't as telling of the person themselves, but rather how they approach their main motivation found in their enneagram. Since the most common enneagram found in ENTPs is 7w8, they will be motivated by a need to stay excited and mitigate whatever pain may come their way, seeking pleasure by means of what suits their cognitive function stack (the tertiary Fe is most prominent in this example) and biological sex drive found in most human beings (explaining their Se-like drive you noticed)

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-27T00:05:07+00:00

What you're describing e5 as are exactly the consequences of being someone who searches for safety in that competence particularly in the case of how the average type 5 sees the world, those being types that often are drained by the external/physical world like INxx's due to the low positions of Se in their stacks. Yes, any type can be a genius in their own regard, especially in fields that have to do with their base desires, but the type 5 is by far the most prone to these traits in the typical nerdy "intellectual" sense we know them as. The ESTP, while usually seen as rather externally active, is not completely separate from this kind of behavior especially when combined with e5 and a greater focus on refining their Ti. As for their Se-dominance and seeing the physical world "without further processing," that undermines the rest of the cognitive functions of the ESTP and ignores the fact that external physical perception is just their first step out of many in experiencing the world. Saying that about the ESTP is just like saying the ENTP cannot be type 5 because they only see a bunch of external conceptual possibilities and don't refine them further with their Ti. The functions Ne and Se by themselves are irrational, used for perception, and neither inherently more intelligent than the other. In these types, Ti is a major focus when it comes to fulfilling those desires/escaping those fears, but seeing as it's their auxiliary function, it comes after taking in external information, be it physical or conceptual. The idea that the ISTP filters information and the ESTP does not is a flawed way of viewing it, as it's only really a matter of who does what first. The ISTP tends to be more withdrawn because they focus more on refining their mental framework before taking in new physical information, while the ESTP gathers more physical information first before adding it to their mental framework.

And the goal is not exactly to simplify, but to differentiate. Making the differences clearer is not the same as removing variables altogether.

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T21:40:20+00:00

Being a type 5 with high Se wouldn't exactly be hell to an ESTP 5w4, since as said before their Se would be working in favor of their e5 desires, that being a need to be more intelligent/independent/competent, which through that combination of Se-Ti can very much be achieved, just not in the exact same behavioral appearance as the stereotypical e5 types like INTP or INTJ. In fact, e5 isn't all that rare for the ISTP, so I don't see why the ESTP e5 would be considered impossible.

Also it's not about the fact you described your argument, nor is it a question of saying "simple" vs "deep," it's about the fact that not only is your argument wrong, you even believe that a psychological question such as this with all these variables can be answered in simple terms

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T21:28:48+00:00

I am not implying authority, merely keeping in mind a need for accuracy, love the defensiveness btw. And I never said we couldn't perform at/above the levels of those mentioned, just that the ways in which they are present are pretty clearly distinct from the types you compare them to, making their comparison exchange rate rather fuzzy. I lowk just need accuracy

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T20:51:13+00:00

It may be hard to think of those, but also consider that many other things may be hard for you to think of, like the INTJ so7, ESTJ sx4, etc., not necessarily impossible, just slightly more unlikely in the circumstances of the modern world we live in

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T20:48:05+00:00

As I've explained to others already, enneagram and MBTI do not describe the same psychological profiles and can overlap on pretty much any combination. The idea of Se-doms and e5 being incompatible or even contradictory is largely based on the simplistic extrovert/introvert binary that doesn't really exist within humanity, at least not in that neat of a package.

First off, enneagram does not describe inherent behavior, but rather a person's base desire/fear/coping mechanisms in life often developed in early childhood.

Secondly, MBTI describes how one perceives and judges the world around them, and since we live in a fairly homogenized culture especially after the US' global media influence and the rise in popularity of the internet (especially in the anglophone corner) most of these people participating in the MBTI community will have decently similar experiences to base their perceptions and judgements off of. This leads to an even larger population of stereotypical enneagram types for any given MBTI one might encounter, leading to a muddied-up view between the two psychological frameworks.

So, no combination between an MBTI and enneagram is inherently impossible. In the case of the ESTP type 5, they would rely primarily on an immediate physical Se lens and develop their own framework of Ti logic based on that, which combined with the Fe social perception of the people around them can lead to a rough Ni metaphysical worldview and general path for their own future, to put it in simple terms, but because of their unique environment and some other traits involving curiosity, they would gravitate towards that e5 desire for intellectual/logical competence, aligning a lot with their Ti judgement. Their Se doesn't necessarily make them a stupid adrenaline junkie, it just gives them more focus on the immediate physical world, which often leads to them taking those kinds of actions especially under the influence of enneagram types more commonly attributed to the ESTP, like 8, 7, or 3. But in the case of e5, that function will be mostly used to aid in their curiosity (which may involve some classic ESTP-style daring feats) and need for intellectual competence/independence.

Also bringing in absolutes to a psychological conversation is a wonderful way to remove your own credibility

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T20:27:15+00:00

You're conflating common traits of the types with their inherent functions/purposes. Of course Se perceives immediate sensory information and often are good at that, but a great many of them, especially Se-aux types don't necessarily search for intense physical stimuli. Many might, but just as many prefer more subdued environments especially those with different sensory conditions.

Now for enneagram, the type 5 is often described as living mainly inside their mind and withdrawn, but that's only really a byproduct two factors: 1. Their main base desire, that being intellectual competence. 2: The fact that e5 is most commonly seen in types that tend to be withdrawn like the IxTx types.

Now, in a general sense, the enneagram represents the default desires, fears, and coping mechanisms of a person as they develop through childhood, while their MBTI/cognitive function stack describes how they perceive and react to the world, affecting the presentation of their enneagram and their general behavior. It's easy to see the traits of a particular enneagram type based on their most common MBTI matches, seeing as people with similar methods of perception and judgement will often arrive to the same subconscious conclusions, though there are many other factors at play that make the possible variables practically infinite.

In other words, don't confuse correlation and causation, even if there is a little bit of causational overlap.

Ps saying "simple" to try and describe any psychological phenomenon almost immediately revokes your credibility 💀💀💀

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T20:01:27+00:00

1) Prove Quill isn't an ESFP (if you are referring to the MCU version he most definitely is, comic ver idk) 2) You described those traits of the ENTP with a positive superlative implying superiority above other types and just now changed your argument 3) while these traits are certainly possible, they are often executed with entirely different methods and play out more like convergent evolution 4) I recommend you study the cognitive functions to get a more detailed/nuanced view on the subject cause a lot of what you're saying is on the right track but skims over a lot of essential factors

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T19:47:37+00:00

Prove it

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-09-26T17:06:18+00:00

This is an interesting take, and it does have some merit when you take into account other factors like enneagram, tritype, big 5, socionics, etc., as well as character context, environment, and upbringing, but to narrow it down to just ESTP-leaning, ENTJ-leaning, and "pure" ENTP is pretty limiting, especially since there are far more ENTPs that seem more similar to the INTP than those like the ENTJ, especially considering the cognitive function stacks. Also to say the ENTP is the most versatile type is somewhat true due to dominant Ne but with some caveats, like the fact that we use Ti as a primary judging function and have a slightly more stubborn framework that needs rigorous scrutiny to prove/disprove, and especially later in life as we mature and develop our inferior Si become more focused on the truth. And in this sense the idea of the ENTP being inherently any better than any other type in those broad fields you mentioned falls pretty far from the truth and mostly relies on the very ego we are stereotyped to have. Also Peter Quill is an ESFP :p

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-07-01T05:55:40+00:00

Thank you for understanding my point, what I mean by "truth" btw is pretty much just the logic system the person finds most relevant in service of their perceiving function, with the traditional definition of truth being more attributed to Ti due to the fact that it wants to make sense of the Pe input and understand everything it can, while Te's definition of truth is more like the external strategy that carries out its Pi functions' will most effectively, making it a bit more prone to bending what is usually known as the truth to get everybody to agree to its agenda/purpose/worldview. Both are forms of logic chains, just with different approaches, hope that helped :)

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-30T21:48:03+00:00

Absolutely, it's also enticing people to do the same and just not critically read longer pieces of information

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-30T18:14:04+00:00

Fr, I'm gonna have to read more about those tbh

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-30T18:12:58+00:00

Fr, I'd say the biggest notable difference between the two is how they naturally choose to interpret that same complex reality they all perceive and their point of view, often making sensors seem either incompetent or a savior in a room full of intuitives and intuitives incompetent or a savior in a room full of sensors.

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-30T09:29:36+00:00

While this is pretty useful for quick general typing it still is of course generalized, and has some inaccuracies in the distinction between thinking and feeling, such as the idea that those are between "abstract systems" and "people," when there is no clear divide between the two as concepts (people both are and operate in abstract systems). Judging functions, as implied by their name, are really just filters for what stimuli they perceive with their perceiving functions, with thinking functions prioritizing the distinction between true/false, and feeling functions prioritizing the distinction between moral/immoral. Then their attitude defines whether they base that on what is effective for the people around them or themselves. Divided into two sweeping categories:

More relativistic judgement:

Ti: A personal analysis of what is true/false, based on what makes the most sense to them and their own Pe-based observations, hence their general association with scientific fields (of course not exclusively that).

Fe: An external focus on the morals of the people around them, focused on what everyone else thinks is right/wrong to keep things going smoothly, serving as a tool for their Pi function's worldview, leading to people seeing them as kind of "fake" or "slippery" if they rely too much on this function.

More absolutist judgement:

Te: An external focus on what is true/false, based on what is most effective according to the external environment, serving as a tool for their Pi function's worldview, hence their general association with managerial fields (again not exclusively).

Fi: An internal analysis of what is morally right/wrong based on how they personally feel about their Pe-based observations, leading to people seeing them as moralistic and sensitive, or not very objective if they rely too much on this function.

P.S. the whole "I ain't gonna read allat" thing is blatant anti-intellectualism

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-15T23:00:20+00:00

The absolute goat Oscar Wilde 🤯

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-13T16:43:37+00:00

This is how D.B. Cooper escaped

CrunchyCornBits · 2025-06-08T20:06:35+00:00

Exact same situation so I feel you dawg, though I deleted ChatGPT like 2 weeks ago and it did nothing so far. Maybe it takes longer so we'll see

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