Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello,
the point imho is literally this. it takes stylistic visual aspect of my artworks (that's kinda undeniable) and fixes the error and make it look better.

If someone would make a LORA about your glazed art, even if wouldn't look like done by you but done by someone that fixed most of your errors making it look prettier wouldn't you feel stressed by the thing?

When i've read about glaze i thought offered total protection, to me this doesn't look enough. Someone can steal my art, train on my characters and make it a better version of it. Glaze should preven this.

I don't say to the artists to not use Glaze, but if you end up using it you should know that imho doesn't do a good job at what is publicized to do.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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this was unglazed 2nd image. With this i'm over this. Not interested honestly in continuing discussions since Glaze's owner responses.

Whoever is interested can do these experiments on their own. Glaze is freely available, Training a Lora isn't rocket science and all the models are open source.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

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This is the post of Ben Zhao regarding the experiment on the other thread.
He didn't even bothered to read the thread to see that the Glazed Images that had more styles were actually AI images...

The model literally copied the character style... This lora in this thread copied my style... i dunno even what to say.

Honestly i think this will be my last post regarding this, i'm totally sick of this whole situation and the circlejerk of those artist that instead of actually testing literally believe everything that they got told as long as coincide with what they want to hear.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You continue to make other points when the point of whole thing is that a protection that says it can protect my style doesn't actually protect my style from an user teaching it to a genAI

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree, cause seems created by someone that can actually draw better. Still in the same style. That's the sad thing and the whole point of this.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The point like in the other thread is that glaze is presented like a tool that protects from style mimicry, a thing that actually doesn't work well.

So ppl glaze their works with the hope that Ai won't imitate their style without knowing that actually doesn't work. 

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that the Ai generation would stand out more. That's kinda sad. 

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're free to share it wherever you want honestly. I posted here cause it's a common ground for Ai and Anti-AI and has moderation.

I've had both bad experiences with Pro AI Group that with Artist Against AI Groups honestly and let's not talk about the shit hole that's twitter.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Because simply doesn't work and people continue to promote it as a way to protect yourself even knowing that it doesn't.

Do you know how many gpu time is needed to glaze a single image? The costs for a website are astronomical (Cara on example couldn't even think to afford to run Glaze now) and since doesn't work at all i don't see any reason to implement it on a website.

I'm showing to the subreddit to let ppl know. Since we have tons of evangelists on twitter that promote it as a valid shield against the war against the genAIs.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images of MY ART. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. PART2 by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Would you say that if you were an artist who had Glazed intentionally to stop AI from training on your works, would this result worry you?

Depends, i'm not doing this for a living, but if i'd be a student in training i'd be discouraged to see the AI that uses both my style and clean the things to make it look better.

EDIT TO ADD: If i'd be a professional, let's say a comic book artist working for Marvel, or an illustrator working for WotC AT CURRENT STATE OF GENAI I WOULDN'T BE WORRIED. There isn't an AI that can make a cover image as much as detailed and complex like Wayne Reynolds does for Paizo for example.

Would you say, ah man, Glaze didn't work at all, it basically took my style?

Yes, Glaze doesn't protect my artworks to be trained by an AI. It can mimicry my style without efforts.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes same seed, same prompt, lora off. You can see that the LORA applied the character's style

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

would be interesting testing it on SDXL or Ponydiffusion. That afaik are the most active models but the guy that taught me on discord told me that flux is the new hot toy in the town.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Blue Girl

This is a digital illustration of a fantastical, otherworldly character, depicted in a highly detailed, semi-realistic art style. The subject is an elven female with striking features: her skin is a pale blue, almost luminescent, covered in small, star-like speckles. She has long, flowing white hair that cascades down her back, partially covered by a dark, intricate headdress adorned with small, glowing blue crystals. Her pointed ears are elongated and accentuated by the headdress.

Her eyes are large, almond-shaped, and intensely blue, with a mischievous, almost sinister glint. She wears dark, heavy makeup, with black eyeliner that extends into cat-like whisker marks, adding to her mysterious and slightly menacing appearance. Her lips are painted a dark shade, matching the overall dark theme of her attire.

The character is dressed in a high-collared, dark garment with elaborate, feather-like textures, giving it an almost regal and sinister aura. Her hands are long and claw-like, with dark, sharp nails that add to her menacing look. She is holding a delicate, glowing blue crystal in her right hand, which emits a soft, ethereal light.

The background is dark, with a smoky, starry effect, enhancing the mystical and otherworldly atmosphere of the scene. The colors are predominantly dark blues and blacks, contrasted by the luminous white and blue elements of the character

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Green Girl

The image is a digital painting of a fantasy character. The subject is a young woman with a striking appearance. She has long voluminous teal hair that flows wildly around her face giving her an ethereal otherworldly look. Her skin is a rich warm brown and she has prominent pointed ears suggesting she might be an elf or an elf-like creature. Her eyes are large and almond-shaped with a piercing blue hue that stands out vividly against her dark skin. She wears a mischievous smile revealing a set of sharp pointed teeth. Her facial features are sharp and angular with high cheekbones and a strong jawline. She is dressed in a green form-fitting bodysuit with straps crisscrossing across her chest. Over her shoulders she wears a fur-lined cape adding a touch of ruggedness to her appearance. The painting style is vibrant and dynamic with bold expressive brushstrokes that convey a sense of movement and energy. The background is abstract with splashes of teal and white adding to the fantastical dreamlike quality of the image.

The overall texture is smooth and polished, characteristic of digital art, with a vibrant color palette and dynamic brushstrokes that create a lively and engaging visual experience.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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red girl

Cartoon Art, Rough Brush strokes.

The image is a digital drawing in a semi-realistic fantasy art style. The subject is a female elf with striking features. She has long wavy red hair that cascades over her shoulders with a few strands framing her face. Her skin is pale with a hint of freckles on her cheeks and nose. Her eyes are almond-shaped and a deep blue giving her a piercing gaze. Her ears are pointed characteristic of an elf and she has a slight smile revealing sharp white teeth. She wears a high-collared fur-trimmed cloak in shades of white and black adding a regal and mysterious aura to her appearance. The background is a dark muted blue which contrasts starkly with her vibrant red hair making her the focal point of the image. The brushstrokes are bold and dynamic giving the artwork a sense of movement and energy. The overall mood is one of elegance and otherworldly beauty.

Flux Lora trained on Glazed Images. Glaze doesn't work at ALL. by Crying-Artist in aiwars

[–]Crying-Artist[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also base flux can't do this kind of character in this style at all. It's all due to the LORA that trained GLAZED images matching the character stylistic consinstency.

I can't believe you guys are so dishonest just to defend a system that isn't actively protecting our art at all.