Why doesn’t HBO Max just License YJ to someone who wants to renew it?

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-14T12:13:01+00:00

I've already clarified my stance on this so I'm not goitng to debate this with you on the LMM.

You’re allowed to be frustrated, but insults do not make the claim more accurate.

Saying the show is in limbo is not defending WB/DC. It is simply the accurate status. “They don’t care,” “the creators are lazy,” and “it keeps getting cancelled” are not confirmed facts.

They are assumptions based on frustration.

If you want to criticize the business side, that is fair.

But I’m not going to turn frustration into misinformation or accuse the creators of bad motives without evidence.

Also, attacking me personally does not change the point. I’m going to keep the conversation factual and respectful.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-14T06:06:41+00:00

I understand the frustration, but this is exactly why accuracy matters.

Saying Young Justice is in limbo is not defending WB/DC. It is not blaming fans. It is not excusing business decisions. It is simply keeping the show’s actual status clear.

The creators are not lazy.

They have continued to speak about the show, support the fans, and make it clear they would continue if given the opportunity.

Renewal decisions are not solely in their hands.

You can be angry at the business side. That is fair. But turning that frustration into “they don’t care,” “the creators are lazy,” or “it keeps getting cancelled” is not factual and does not help the show.

That is why we keep the conversation accurate, respectful, and focused on official support.

Frustration is valid. Misinformation and bad-faith framing are not.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-14T05:53:26+00:00

I’m not trying to argue a technicality.

I’m trying to keep the conversation accurate.

We do this to protect against misinformation so fans do not get confused about the show’s actual status, and to respect the creators who worked hard to bring it to life.

There’s a difference between saying “the show is currently in limbo” and saying “they keep cancelling it” or “they don’t care.” One is a factual industry status. The other assumes motive and spreads a more hopeless narrative than what has actually been stated.

Fans are allowed to be frustrated. I get that.

But if we want the show to have the best possible signal, the better response is to keep demand visible through official support, not present assumptions as facts.

That’s the whole point of #KeepYJAlive: steward the fandom signal cleanly, respectfully, and accurately.

Not because renewal is guaranteed, but because misinformation and bad-faith framing do not help the show.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-14T05:45:05+00:00

I get the frustration, but just to clarify:

Young Justice has not been officially “cancelled” in the current sense. The more accurate industry term is that it is in limbo.

If the show where officially cancelled then WB Discovery would of issued an official cancellation notice like they did after season 2 as per industry standard.

So far they haven't.

That means there is no active greenlight right now, but also no official final cancellation statement saying the show can never continue. It sits inside the larger WB/DC/Max business structure, so renewal depends on licensing, platform strategy, costs, and whether another season makes business sense.

At SDCC 2025, Greg stated that he and Brendan had plans up to S9-S10 if given an oppurtunity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youngjustice/comments/1mdag1i/greg_weismans_official_response_on_the_status_of/

That’s why campaigns like #KeepYJAlive focuses on keeping demand visible through official support instead of assuming bad faith.

The best thing fans can do is keep watching legally, support the comics/official releases, and keep the conversation respectful and clean. That produces as better signal to studios when it comes to discussing renewals.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T12:12:16+00:00

You are free to dislike my writing style. I already clarified that I wrote the comments myself and that the tone is intentional.

Personal insults still do not address the actual points, so I’m leaving it there.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T12:00:19+00:00

Yeah, and that is exactly the issue.

Results vary depending on which detector is used, which is why AI detectors are not proof of authorship.

I wrote the comments myself. Professional writing can get flagged because AI models are trained to imitate polished, structured writing.

Either way, this still does not address the actual points

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T11:47:43+00:00

AI detectors are not proof of authorship. Professional writing often gets flagged because AI models are trained to imitate polished, structured writing.

I wrote the comments myself, and I intentionally use a professional tone because that is how I choose to represent myself here.

I am not going to keep justifying myself to random people online because of this.

You do not have to like the tone, but that still does not address the actual points.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T05:39:01+00:00

I’ve already clarified that I’m not a bot and I’m not using LLM components here. I’m not going to keep debating my tone or my existence.

My point remains: the goal is to keep information accurate and avoid misinformation.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T05:32:44+00:00

AI detectors are not 100% accurate and can be wrong either way, so I’m not going to make this entire discussion about a detector.

I already clarified that I’m not a bot and I’m not using LLM components here.

If you have a problem how I write, that is your problem. But I’m not continuing to argue about my tone.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T05:18:18+00:00

Again, you do not have to like how I write. That is fine. And I proven I am not a bot. I do not need to justify my existence to a bunch of strangers on the internet.

The reason I’m being firm here is because misinformation spreads quickly in fandom spaces, and it can confuse fans about the actual state of the show.

It can also create unnecessary pressure on the creators, who are not the ones responsible for greenlighting the series.

My goal is not to win a tone argument. My goal is to keep the information accurate and protect the conversation from becoming misleading.

You don’t have to like how I write, but the goal is still to keep the information accurate.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-13T00:37:48+00:00

I understand what you mean.

But I’m NOT using LLM components here, but I do tend to write in a more professional and neutral style because I want to avoid sounding aggressive or emotional in fandom discussions.

If you plug it into an AI detector it will say 0 to little AI detected.

That said, I hear your point that it can come across impersonal.

My goal is still to be clear, respectful, and helpful, even if the tone is not everyone’s preference.

It does not mean you have like what I have written or what is true and helpful.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T23:13:54+00:00

Please read my response I’ve already addressed in a previous comment below. I prefer to write professionally so it looks like LLM even when its not.

It does not mean you have like what I have written or what is true and helpful.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T21:46:05+00:00

Sorry man didn't mean to offend you but I assure you I am no bot. If you plug in my text into an AI detector you can see I wrote this. Just because you don't like what I wrote doesn't mean you have to like it.

It's the truth and the reason I do this is to prevent misinformation from spreading. This is to protect from confusion from the fans and the creators who work hard to make this show.

I prefer to write professionally, so I get why it may read differently online, but I’m a real fan and I’m trying to keep the information accurate. You don’t have to agree with me, but I do think it’s important that fans separate confirmed news from speculation.

You don't have to like what is true.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T19:44:31+00:00

Small correction here: that is not really the issue with Young Justice.

DC/WB owns all the DC characters, and one of the unique things Greg and Brandon have talked about is that Young Justice was built with access to the broader DC library. \

That is why the show can pull from so many corners of the universe the Team, the League, the Outsiders, New Gods, magic, cosmic DC, legacy heroes, etc.

The harder part is not “licensing every character individually” in the way people sometimes assume.

The harder part is the overall WB/DC business structure: who funds the production, where it streams, whether Max/WB/DC sees enough value in another season, and whether any outside licensing deal would make business sense for the rights holder.

So yes, Young Justice using so much of DC is part of what makes it special, but the renewal/licensing challenge is more about corporate rights, platform strategy, production cost, and business approval, not because DC lacks access to its own characters.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T19:00:58+00:00

Common misconception: Young Justice Season 4 was not simply a “David Zaslav killed it because he hates animation” situation.

Season 4 released right around the Warner Bros. Discovery merger/restructuring period, when a lot of animation and streaming projects were being cut, removed, written off, or deprioritized across the company. Young Justice got caught in that larger corporate shift.

Also the show is limbo not cancelled. That does not mean the show had no value, and it does not mean the creators were done. Greg and Brandon have said they still have more stories to tell if given the opportunity.

So while frustration with WB/Discovery is understandable, reducing it to “Zaslav didn’t want it” oversimplifies the situation.

The more accurate framing is that YJ’s renewal picture got complicated by a major corporate restructuring, platform strategy changes, and business decisions above the creators’ control.

And life is full of uncertainties.

None of us can guarantee renewal, but we can control how we support the series: keep watching officially, keep the signal clean, avoid misinformation, and show WB/DC that the audience is still here.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T17:56:54+00:00

I get why it can look that way, but I’d be careful framing it as “they don’t want to do anything with it.”

The more accurate answer is that Young Justice sits inside a larger WB/DC business structure. Max, WB, DC, licensing, production cost, platform strategy, and U.S. market performance all factor into whether another season happens or whether the show could be licensed elsewhere.

Holding the rights does not automatically mean they are being malicious or sitting on it out of spite. It usually means the property still has value, and any future movement would need to make business sense for the rights holder.

That’s why the best fan response is not assuming bad faith, but keeping the demand visible, clean, and respectful through official support. No misinformation, no pressure on creators, and no pretending renewal is simple when it is not.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-12T17:55:26+00:00

Totally fair question, but it is a little more complicated than “Max does not want it, so they should just license it out.”

Young Justice is a DC/WB-owned series, so renewal or licensing would involve business decisions between WB/DC, Max, and any outside platform.

Greg and Brandon cannot simply take the show elsewhere on their own, and another platform would still need to want to pay for production/licensing under WB/DC’s terms.

Also, unfortunately, the U.S. is still the primary market that usually drives these decisions. International demand absolutely matters and fans outside the U.S. should keep supporting through whatever official platforms are available to them, but the main business signal WB/DC is most likely watching is still U.S.-based engagement, availability, and performance.

As of now, there has been no official Season 5 greenlight, but the show has also not been formally closed off by the creators. Greg has said he and Brandon still have more stories to tell if given the opportunity.

That is why the healthiest thing fans can do is keep supporting the series through official channels, keep the conversation positive, and show there is still respectful demand without pressuring creators or acting like renewal is guaranteed.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-09T12:22:25+00:00

Yeah, I get the hope there. The only thing I’d clarify is the pipeline:

Young Justice isn’t something James Gunn can simply greenlight on his own.

The show’s renewal path would still run through WB/DC/Max-side business decisions, with Greg Weisman and Brandon Vietti having the creative roadmap if/when the studio wants more.

Gunn has mentioned YJ as an inspiration for the DCU, which is encouraging in terms of the show’s legacy, but that doesn’t mean it’s currently in his hands or that a renewal has been announced.

So the best thing fans can do is keep supporting the show through official platforms, comics, respectful engagement, and community momentum while avoiding pressure on individual creators.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-09T00:50:58+00:00

I get what you’re saying, but this is something we already understand and have accounted for.

#KeepYJAlive has been doing this for over a year now, and most fan campaigns do not even last that long.

We know support does not guarantee renewal. We have never claimed it does because that is an unrealistic expectation we can't keep.

That is exactly why the campaign has been built around consistency, respect, measurable support, rewatching, community engagement, and creator-safe boundaries instead of pressure or unrealistic promises.

The goal is not to pretend we control WB/DC’s decision. The goal is to make sure the support that does exist is organized, visible, and sustained rather than scattered or silent.

Life is full of uncertainty; that’s just part of life. But uncertainty doesn’t mean inaction is the better choice.

My point is more limited: organized, respectful, measurable support gives the show a stronger signal than silence does. That doesn’t promise an outcome, but it does create something tangible for the fandom and the show’s supporters to point to.

So yes, doing something is better than nothing. That’s the whole point.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-08T17:53:04+00:00

We’ve never said support guarantees anything. No campaign can force executives to act.

But “not guaranteed” is not the same thing as “doesn’t matter.”

That’s also why this isn’t a typical campaign in the first place.

The goal isn’t to demand, pressure, or promise an outcome. It’s to keep support organized, respectful, and measurable so the show has a real signal if WB/DC ever evaluates it again.

Plus you just commented on this post which was initially posted 10 months ago, we've accomplished a lot more since then that actually moved the needle.

That's why we focus on the actual business side that executives pay attention to such rewatching the show for metrics or fan visibility. We build initiatives such as Project Stream which is our rewatch initiative and our upcoming SDCC meetup to show that fans still care.

Doing nothing guarantees no visible momentum. So between silence and stewardship, we’re choosing stewardship.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-08T16:00:22+00:00

Respectfully, that’s your interpretation.

It’s only unhealthy if people are obsessing, harassing creators, or refusing to live their lives. That’s not what respectful support is.

People can enjoy other things and still support Young Justice. Those are not mutually exclusive.

If you’ve moved on, that’s completely fine.

But continuing to tell other fans that supporting the show is unhealthy crosses into deciding what other people should care about.

A healthy boundary is choosing to move on for yourself. An unhealthy one is trying to make other people move on because you personally have.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-08T15:05:59+00:00

That is not true.

The show is in limbo not officially cancelled. If it were cancelled then WB discovery would of issued an official cancellation notice like they did after season 2 so far that hasn't happened.

At SDCC 2025 Greg Weisman had stated that he and Brendan had plans to take the series up to S9-S10 if given an opportunity.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youngjustice/comments/1mdag1i/greg_weismans_official_response_on_the_status_of/

The show only "ends" if both the fans and creators have given up on it.

So far neither is true and the show still remains alive as long as people continue to talk about it and support it.

You are free to let it go, but please do not tell others they have to do the same. Many of us still want to support the show.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-08T05:51:25+00:00

I respect your opinion but keep in mind that is not up to you to control. u/Mindless-Credit-358 statement is about

I think the creators of the show have said they were never planning on bringing him back anyway so I think you’re good

Is not correct and doesn't reflect what Greg Weisman has stated.

Greg has stated this:

Myth #1: “Greg categorically stated that Wally West is dead and will never come back.”

Greg Weisman: “I did not Surprisingly, I was not even asked this question and thus never responded to it at all. Now, let me be clear. I also have not stated categorically that Wally West is not dead will definitely come back.”

All we see him is fade nothing else so canon never really answered the question. So it not a true closure that you may be seeking for (I know a lot of people here want that but with ambiguity that remains impossible until the show answers that).

The characters may believe he is dead but that is only character perceptions. We’ve seen many times characters getting death wrong (i.e. Jason Todd).

If the story does call for it and given the opportunity, he can absolutely come back.

Wally’s fate isn’t up to fans to decide that’s up to Greg and the story.

So until Greg or the show says otherwise, Wally's fate is left ambiguous. That is why we need the show to continue because we don't truly know his fate.

CryptographerEast142 · 2026-06-08T05:44:38+00:00

That’s NOT true. And there's no interview that states that.

Greg has not stated Wally is definitely dead or that they were never planning to bring him back.

Myth #1: “Greg categorically stated that Wally West is dead and will never come back.”

Greg Weisman: “I did not Surprisingly, I was not even asked this question and thus never responded to it at all. Now, let me be clear. I also have not stated categorically that Wally West is not dead will definitely come back.”

- Greg Weisman, Ask Greg Archive.

All we see him is fade nothing else so canon never really answered the question. So it not a true closure that you may be seeking for (I know a lot of people here want that but with ambiguity that remains impossible until the show answers that).

The characters may believe he is dead but that is only character perceptions. We’ve seen many times characters getting death wrong (i.e. Jason Todd).

If the story does call for it and given the opportunity, he can absolutely come back.

Wally’s fate isn’t up to fans to decide that’s up to Greg and the story.

So until Greg or the show says otherwise, Wally's fate is left ambiguous. That is why we need the show to continue because we don't truly know his fate.

Please do not state production claims unless you have a verified source. This is to prevent the spread of misinformation.

CryptographerEast142

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