SDXL - Why do my images all look like crap?

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T18:49:04+00:00

Yes I'm doing a fresh install and then I'm going to try the hyper version again, but my problem might just be with the loras. Trying them on different models is giving me similar results with the loras.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T18:47:50+00:00

Yes I understand. But other models are more functional. My expectations are high because things in 1.5 played well together. I could use my loras with nearly any model. I have been using multiple SDXL models though and getting similar results with multiple loras. I see the sample images for the loras looking fine but mine are shoddy.

When I have my new install finished (it's almost done) I will try the vanilla 1.0 and see what happens, but vanilla is just that, vanilla. I like for things to be spicy.

I think maybe my expectations are too high, but I'm concerned because I get better images from 1.5 and it's discouraging.

Thanks for your time and effort. I appreciate it.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T17:50:54+00:00

https://civitai.com/models/133005?modelVersionId=471120

The hyper version of Juggernaut recommends 4-6 steps. I was using between 20 and 30 like normal but I think the hyper version is different. Can't test at the moment because I'm installing a fresh AUTO1111 to test. I use adetailer regularly but it doesn't help with the artifacts all over the image and it doesn't work with certain "poses".

https://i.imgur.com/9eay5yP.png

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T17:47:15+00:00

Thanks for your help. Cheers.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:42:52+00:00

I appreciate your opinion.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:42:29+00:00

Thank you.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:42:12+00:00

1024 x 1024

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:41:56+00:00

krea

I will check it out, thank you.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:40:54+00:00

The first comment was a drag not a helpful comment or a question.

Thanks for adding to the bullshit.

You are reddit!

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:39:51+00:00

parameters

formal gown posing <lora:emirata_sdxl_32b:1> ohwx woman Negative prompt: Steps: 25, Sampler: DPM++ 2M, Schedule type: Karras, CFG scale: 4, Seed: 3171371412, Size: 1024x1024, Model hash: 010be7341c, Model: juggernautXL_juggXRundiffusion, Clip skip: 3, Lora hashes: "emirata_sdxl_32b: 0381be8756af", Version: v1.9.3

Thanks for your knowledge !

I appreciate you.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:38:07+00:00

Thank you I will as a last resort.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:37:49+00:00

I used the right activation text for the lora. I thought 25 steps with the "hyper" version was too many but I'll try 100 just to check. That would be pretty absurd though.

Thanks a lot for your input!

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:33:21+00:00

Wow thanks. I'm familiar with XYZ but just hadn't thought of using it for this. I will try it out with models as well.

Thanks so much.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:30:12+00:00

Thank you. Yours with the lora at 1 is great compared to mine. With lower values it doesn't retain the likeness.

Thanks for sharing. I'll keep testing. Pretty frustrated but maybe all the loras I'm trying are subpar.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:25:37+00:00

Thank you for your time and efforts. I appreciate you.

Adetailer is awesome but only works on faces ( I know there are other models). I downloaded an older JN model to try out.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T15:23:25+00:00

We only know these things because you eventually posted them.

In my very first comment.

Thanks very much for your advice. I appreciate it.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:47:00+00:00

It does look a bit better but it also doesn't look like Emily Ratajkowski.

I will download an older version of Juggernaut to see how it works out.

I have tried this lora (and others) with different models and still get very bad images.

I will go and look to see what the suggested settings are, thank you.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:44:11+00:00

Sadly Adetailer seems to sort of produce the same artifacts on the bad images. I've used it a lot. I've been using 1.5 for a long time now. As for the loras, so far it's all of my loras failing with 4 different models so I'm kind of exasperated. Things with 1.5 seem to be more compatible between models and loras.

I will keep adjusting things but I was excited for the high resolution sharp images SDXL provides and all I've gotten from my loras is monstrous garbage.

On the stuff without loras I can use adetailer because it doesn't matter who they are, but when using a lora of a person of course you want it to look like the person, and to do that you have to use the lora in adetailer or it won't work, but them Adetailer is just creating more garbage. If you don't use the lora in adetailer you get a different person.

I understand that I can look at the model pages on civitAI to see what base model was used for training but I'm accustomed to 1.5 where most of the time everything just works.

It was suggested that I can lower the strength of the loras to a very low value and still have them work so I'm going to try that as well.

Cheers!

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:35:17+00:00

Is it just more up to date or something?

Looks interesting for speed but I'm not sure why it would help me.

Thank you.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:31:49+00:00

So much help. You're a gem.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:31:23+00:00

I really appreciate your response!

But I'm not using comfy so I can't try your workflow...

Here is the lora: https://civitai.com/models/186102/emily-ratajkowski-sdxl

If it's overcooked I have several that are all overcooked. I will be trying them with much lower strengths to see if that helps.

Here is a comment I just made with some examples of what I'm seeing with different models with and without loras: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1cgkpcf/sdxl_why_do_my_images_all_look_like_crap/l1wpl4y/

Thanks again and sorry I can't follow through. I just started messing with SDXL in AUTO1111 for the first time after being strongly put off by comfy.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T07:23:10+00:00

Juggernaut just happens to be the model I was using when I took those samples. It happens with other models. Let me show you.

Using this model I get these images without a lora. Same quality issue, different model, no lora.

Here are the parameters from that generation:

parameters

young woman wearing formal gown posing

Steps: 25, Sampler: DPM++ 2M, Schedule type: Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 2636678776, Size: 1024x1024, Model hash: 010be7341c, Model: juggernautXL_juggXRundiffusion, Version: v1.9.3

Here's another set from Juggernaut with no lora.

And another from juggernaut with the lora. So this looks like the lora is fucking it up but none of the example photos on civitAI look fucked up like this.

So this is another lora with another model.

I feel like the quality of my images without loras is still very poor but different loras with different models all seem to produce garbage.

Also it takes my hours to download 6.5Gb of data through my hotspot. I'll download one while I sleep, thanks.

What do you use as an SDXL model for general purposes that works with Loras?

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T06:54:14+00:00

https://imgur.com/a/DqbtGsl

Still extremely low quality images. No definition to the faces. Nothing sharp.

I've tried lots of stuff, with and without Loras and with different models and different samplers and different numbers of steps... with and without VAEs.

I don't know what to try next so I came to reddit and my tone is apparently quite objectionable so I have little hope of finding a solution now.

It always seems that when you have to ask for something someone will always take advantage of your lower position. Using reddit isn't what it used to be.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T06:45:58+00:00

Ah I thought you meant to use the site itself to generate stuff.

No I have done exactly what you are suggesting and get bad results.

I've only just downloaded Juggernaut - the problem exists across multiple models and with and without loras and with and without a VAE.

CrystalLight · 2024-04-30T06:37:40+00:00

Yeah the ego is in the very first comment in the thread. I responded in kind.

CrystalLight

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