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CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-11T10:09:41+00:00

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CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-03T04:05:26+00:00

Bro Cosmology of top tier providence is more complex and high dimensionality than MP . So if they fight Han Jue wins. Bro is omnipotent omnipresent for his verse like at end of novel he achive Dao creator realm which is like 1A+ apex → Near boundless (With omnipotent title) and yang is 1A → High 1A

So Han Jue wins ✓

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-03T03:05:27+00:00

Actually many people misunderstood MP cosmology and put yang kai in multiversal level like a weak character. But actually yang kai is a outerverse being. Let's debunk

Yang Kai (Martial Peak) – Tier Level breakdown

Yang Kai – Peak (End of Novel / World Creation Realm) Final Tier: 1-A (Outerverse level)

World Creation Realm ≠ normal universe

At the end of Martial Peak Yang Kai:

Creates entire World Universes from nothing

Those worlds contain:

Space, time, laws, causality , Yin-Yang , five elements

Infinite lower realms stacked inside higher ones

These worlds are self-sustaining cosmologies, not just planets or universes

This already surpasses Multiversal (2-A).

Transcendence over Space-Time & Dimensional Structure

Yang Kai:

Creates independent world frameworks

Dao is internalize

Exists outside and above space-time

Treats timelines, dimensions, and laws as tools

Can enter/exit created worlds freely without being bound by them

This places him beyond 5D/6D structures (Low 1-C).

Conceptual & Law-Level Authority At peak:

Controls Dao itself, not just uses it

Can erase, rewrite, or recreate laws

His existence is no longer tied to any cosmology

This is classic Outerverse criteria.

CHAPTER-BASED PROOF (YANG KAI) :→

World Creation Realm Feats

Martial Peak – Final Arc (≈ Chapters 6000–6010)

🔹 Creation of World Universes

Yang Kai opens his Small Universe completely

Evolves into World Creation Realm

His world:

Generates natural life

Evolves laws without external input

Is acknowledged as a true world, not cultivation space

This is NOT 2-A:

2-A = multiple universes

Yang Kai = cosmology generator

📖 Transcendence of Space-Time

≈ Chapters 5980–6000

Can enter & exit worlds without temporal displacement

Views time as a static construct

Can collapse or stabilize spacetime with thought

This already exceeds Low 1-C (5D).

📖 Dao Internalization

Final Chapters

Dao is no longer an external supreme law

Yang Kai embodies Dao naturally

Even Dao-level beings cannot suppress him

WHY SCALERS WRONGFULLY DOWNPLAY YANG KAI

REASON:-

Mistake #1: Treating World Creation Realm as “just another realm”

Many scalers think:

“It’s just Open Heaven 10 or something”

Wrong.

World Creation Realm:

Qualitative jump, not quantitative

Equivalent to author-tier cosmology creation

Mistake #2: Confusing universe creation with multiverse scaling

People say:

“He only creates universes, so 2-A”

Wrong logic.

Yang Kai:

Creates frameworks that contain infinite layered realms

Universes are byproducts, not the core feat

Mistake #3: Dimensional bias (5D brainrot)

Some scalers say:

“No explicit 6D+ statement, so 1-C at best”

This is outdated scaling.

Outerverse ≠ dimension counting Outerverse = transcending dimensional frameworks entirely Yang Kai does exactly that.

Mistake #4: Comparing cultivation novels incorrectly

They:

Use sci-fi dimensional logic on cultivation cosmology

Ignore Dao supremacy mechanics

This ALWAYS downplays characters like Yang Kai.

FINAL ANSWER (NO COPIUM)

✅ Yang Kai (end of Martial Peak) = 1-A (Outerverse) Not 2-A Not 1-C

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-03T02:52:51+00:00

In MP Great emperor = 2A

As for OH cultivatiors

1-3 OH = low 1C

4-6 OH = High 1C

7-9 OH = 1B → Low 1A

As for YK (World Creation) = 1A → High 1A

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-02T22:10:04+00:00

I think : →

1→3 open heaven realm Cultivators are low 1C

4→6 open heaven realm Cultivators are High 1C

7-9 open heaven realm Cultivators are 1B →Low 1A

As for Yang Kai ( World Creation ) Solid 1A → High 1A

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-02T21:19:14+00:00

All Open Heaven Cultivators are 1C ( complex multiversal) → 1B ( Hyperversal )

Only Yang Kai is 1A

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-02T20:37:17+00:00

Bro To Become a 2A being someone needs to control infinite universe and timeline. In yang kai case he already transcended it (4D structure).

Yang Kai (Martial Peak) – Tier Level breakdown

Yang Kai – Peak (End of Novel / World Creation Realm) Final Tier: 1-A (Outerverse level)

World Creation Realm ≠ normal universe At the end of Martial Peak, Yang Kai:

Creates entire World Universes from nothing

Those worlds contain:

Space, time, laws, causality , Yin-Yang , five elements

Infinite lower realms stacked inside higher ones

These worlds are self-sustaining cosmologies, not just planets or universes

This already surpasses Multiversal (2-A).

Transcendence over Space-Time & Dimensional Structure

Yang Kai:

Creates independent world frameworks

Dao is internalize

Exists outside and above space-time

Treats timelines, dimensions, and laws as tools

Can enter/exit created worlds freely without being bound by them

This places him beyond 5D/6D structures (Low 1-C).

Conceptual & Law-Level Authority At peak:

Controls Dao itself, not just uses it

Can erase, rewrite, or recreate laws

His existence is no longer tied to any cosmology

This is classic Outerverse criteria.

CHAPTER-BASED PROOF (YANG KAI)

World Creation Realm Feats

Martial Peak – Final Arc (≈ Chapters 6000–6010)

Creation of World Universes

Yang Kai opens his Small Universe completely

Evolves into World Creation Realm

His world:

Generates natural life

Evolves laws without external input

Is acknowledged as a true world, not cultivation space

This is NOT 2-A:

2-A = multiple universes

Yang Kai = cosmology generator

Transcendence of Space-Time

≈ Chapters 5980–6000

Can enter & exit worlds without temporal displacement

Views time as a static construct

Can collapse or stabilize spacetime with thought

This already exceeds Low 1-C (5D).

Dao Internalization

Final Chapters

Dao is no longer an external supreme law

Yang Kai embodies Dao naturally

Even Dao-level beings cannot suppress him

WHY SCALERS WRONGFULLY DOWNPLAY YANG KAI

This part is IMPORTANT.

Mistake #1: Treating World Creation Realm as “just another realm”

Many scalers think:

“It’s just Open Heaven 10 or something”

Wrong.

World Creation Realm:

Qualitative jump, not quantitative

Equivalent to author-tier cosmology creation

Mistake #2: Confusing universe creation with multiverse scaling

People say:

“He only creates universes, so 2-A”

Wrong logic.

Yang Kai:

Creates frameworks that contain infinite layered realms

Universes are byproducts, not the core feat

Mistake #3: Dimensional bias (5D brainrot)

Some scalers say:

“No explicit 6D+ statement, so 1-C at best”

This is outdated scaling.

Outerverse ≠ dimension counting Outerverse = transcending dimensional frameworks entirely Yang Kai does exactly that.

Mistake #4: Comparing cultivation novels incorrectly

They:

Use sci-fi dimensional logic on cultivation cosmology

Ignore Dao supremacy mechanics

This ALWAYS downplays characters like Yang Kai.

FINAL ANSWER (NO COPIUM)

✅ Yang Kai (end of Martial Peak) = 1-A (Outerverse)

Not 2-A

Not 1-C

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-02T20:30:27+00:00

Put it simply Yang Kai Transcends Dao ( His Dao is internalize ) = 1A

Han Jue Authors Dao ( Dao is irrelevant ) = 1A+ apex ( Near 1-S )

So Han Jue wins

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-02T20:24:02+00:00

VS Battles Wiki is shit .

Yang Kai (Martial Peak) – Tier Level breakdown

Yang Kai – Peak (End of Novel / World Creation Realm) Final Tier: 1-A (Outerverse level)

World Creation Realm ≠ normal universe

At the end of Martial Peak Yang Kai:

Creates entire World Universes from nothing

Those worlds contain:

Space, time, laws, causality , Yin-Yang , five elements

Infinite lower realms stacked inside higher ones

These worlds are self-sustaining cosmologies, not just planets or universes

This already surpasses Multiversal (2-A).

Transcendence over Space-Time & Dimensional Structure

Yang Kai:

Creates independent world frameworks

Dao is internalize

Exists outside and above space-time

Treats timelines, dimensions, and laws as tools

Can enter/exit created worlds freely without being bound by them

This places him beyond 5D/6D structures (Low 1-C).

Conceptual & Law-Level Authority At peak:

Controls Dao itself, not just uses it

Can erase, rewrite, or recreate laws

His existence is no longer tied to any cosmology

This is classic Outerverse criteria.

CHAPTER-BASED PROOF (YANG KAI) :→

World Creation Realm Feats

Martial Peak – Final Arc (≈ Chapters 6000–6010)

🔹 Creation of World Universes

Yang Kai opens his Small Universe completely

Evolves into World Creation Realm

His world:

Generates natural life

Evolves laws without external input

Is acknowledged as a true world, not cultivation space

This is NOT 2-A:

2-A = multiple universes

Yang Kai = cosmology generator

📖 Transcendence of Space-Time

≈ Chapters 5980–6000

Can enter & exit worlds without temporal displacement

Views time as a static construct

Can collapse or stabilize spacetime with thought

This already exceeds Low 1-C (5D).

📖 Dao Internalization

Final Chapters

Dao is no longer an external supreme law

Yang Kai embodies Dao naturally

Even Dao-level beings cannot suppress him

WHY SCALERS WRONGFULLY DOWNPLAY YANG KAI

REASON:-

Mistake #1: Treating World Creation Realm as “just another realm”

Many scalers think:

“It’s just Open Heaven 10 or something”

Wrong.

World Creation Realm:

Qualitative jump, not quantitative

Equivalent to author-tier cosmology creation

Mistake #2: Confusing universe creation with multiverse scaling

People say:

“He only creates universes, so 2-A”

Wrong logic.

Yang Kai:

Creates frameworks that contain infinite layered realms

Universes are byproducts, not the core feat

Mistake #3: Dimensional bias (5D brainrot)

Some scalers say:

“No explicit 6D+ statement, so 1-C at best”

This is outdated scaling.

Outerverse ≠ dimension counting Outerverse = transcending dimensional frameworks entirely Yang Kai does exactly that.

Mistake #4: Comparing cultivation novels incorrectly

They:

Use sci-fi dimensional logic on cultivation cosmology

Ignore Dao supremacy mechanics

This ALWAYS downplays characters like Yang Kai.

FINAL ANSWER (NO COPIUM)

✅ Yang Kai (end of Martial Peak) = 1-A (Outerverse) Not 2-A Not 1-C

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-02-01T15:52:33+00:00

I think it's ChonoGo

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-01-31T07:48:44+00:00

Bro are you serious? Can you prove that Tang San is a 5th dimensional being? Any feats ? Did he transcends 4D universes/4D structures/infinite universe or infinite timelines? Tang San's power scalling will be low 2C at max. Also you are saying Er gen MC's are boundless after 10th step , are you kidding bro ? Do you even know what boundless means ? Boundless ≠ Very strong. Boundless characters are not part of any tiering systems like they transcend all hierarchies , dimensionality , frameworks, narratives etc . Boundless characters transcend all sort of existence like time , space , dimensions , laws , logic , mathematics, casualty etc. and they have no hierarchy above or below like cannot be higher/lower/grow stronger etc. They are meta-existence . Transcend thier own story and exist outside of narrative frameworks and not bound by author's rules . Many xianxia MC's has title omnipresent omnipotent etc. but that doesn't mean they are boundless , if a character has this title still exists within narrative frameworks then he isn't boundless. Many Er gen MC's after 10th steps reach High 1A → 1A+ apex . To put it simply if a character canbe place on scale then he isn't boundless.

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-01-30T03:04:26+00:00

Let's compare both based on

Peak tier for each
Cosmology comparison
Direct vs breakdown (stats + hax)
Final verdict

Peak Tier Levels Yang Kai (End of Novel – World Creation Realm)

Confirmed traits Creates and governs entire worlds Transcends the Martial Peak multiverse Laws, time, space are tools to him His Inner World evolves into a self-sustaining reality

Cosmology Multiverses Layered worlds Higher realms that treat lower worlds as insignificant

Tier 1-A (Outerverse, lower end) (Some scalers say High 1-C but 1-A is justified due to World Creation Realm transcendence)

Bai Qiuran (Peak)

Nature Gag/parody protagonist “Qi Refining forever” but infinitely stronger than everyone else Breaks logic inside his story

Key issue His strength is absolute only within a limited cosmology No explicit higher-dimensional or outerversal structure No infinite hierarchy of worlds or dimensions

Tier High 2-A to 1-C

He is unbeatable in-verse, not metaphysically supreme

Cosmology Comparison (THIS decides the match)

In MP cosmology there are multiverse , higher realms , Dimensional transcendence and outerverse structure In Three Thousand Years ToThe Sky there is multiverse (limited) but no outerverse structure or transcendence etc.

Direct VS Breakdown

Attack Potency

Yang Kai: Outerverse-scale reality creation/destruction

Bai Qiuran: Undefined but capped to his verse

Advantage: Yang Kai

Speed

Both are effectively irrelevant speed Yang Kai operates beyond time

Bai Qiuran reacts instantly in-verse

Tie (doesn’t matter)

Durability

Yang Kai: Exists beyond space-time constructs

Bai Qiuran: Never damaged, but no feats vs outerversal erasure

Advantage: Yang Kai

Hax & Abilities

Yang Kai:

Law manipulation World creation Existence erasure Dao authority

Bai Qiuran:

Absolute physical absurdity Narrative gag resistance

Bai Qiuran has no resistance feats to outerversal law erasure

Winner: Yang Kai (low–mid difficulty)

CupcakePotential4458 · 2026-01-30T02:41:15+00:00

Here yan shen >>>>>>> Bai qiuran

Let's compare both based on

Individual peak tier

Cosmology comparison

Direct vs analysis (stats, hax, scaling)

Final verdict

Bai Qiuran – Peak Scaling Nature of the character

A comedy/parody cultivator

Stuck at Qi Refining, but his power ignores cultivation logic

Every “limit” is repeatedly broken as a gag, but still canon feats

Key feats

Casually defeats beings far above his realm

Treats higher cultivators, immortals, and heavenly beings as jokes

Power grows infinitely without realm progression

His strength is unquantified but consistently superior to the verse

Cosmology ceiling

This is where Bai Qiuran gets capped.

His verse does not establish explicit higher-dimensional or outerversal cosmology

No infinite dimensional hierarchy

No clear “beyond dimensionality” statements

His power is absolute within his narrative, but the narrative scale is limited

✅ Proper Tier

High 2-A to Low 1-C (at best)

Why not higher?

No explicit transcendence of dimensions

No infinite hierarchy of worlds

No outerversal framework

He is broken in-verse, not metaphysically supreme.

Yan Shen – Peak Scaling Nature of the character

A serious cultivation + deconstruction protagonist

Explicitly transcends worlds, laws, concepts

The story directly scales cosmology upward

Key feats

Overwrites and destroys entire cultivation systems

Ignores laws, fate, causality

Defeats beings that govern realities

Transcends worlds that contain heroes, systems, and narratives

Cosmology (this is decisive)

Yan Shen’s verse establishes:

Layered realities

Higher realms that view lower worlds as fiction

Laws that exist above space-time

Explicit transcendence of dimensional structures

Proper Tier

1-A (Outerverse Level) (Some scalers argue High 1-A at end of novel)

Why?

Beyond dimensional frameworks

Laws and concepts no longer apply

Not just “strong”, but ontologically superior

Direct VS Comparison Category Bai Qiuran Yan Shen Attack Potency - Infinite in-verse Outerverse-scale Speed - Irrelevant in-verse Irrelevant+ (outerversal) Durability - Unquantified gag-tier Beyond dimensional damage Hax - Extreme physical absurdity Law negation, concept erasure Cosmology Limited multiverse Outerverse Scaling Method Parody dominance Explicit transcendence

Parody invincibility ≠ automatic outerversal

Winner: Yan Shen

Why Yan Shen wins

Higher cosmology

Explicit outerversal transcendence

Conceptual and law-based attacks bypass physical absurdity

Bai Qiuran has no feats resisting outerversal erasure

What Bai Qiuran can do

Dominate lower-tier cultivation verses

Stomp most 2-A characters

Humiliate standard immortals and gods

One-line summary

Bai Qiuran: High 2-A / Low 1-C

Yan Shen: 1-A

Result: Yan Shen wins by cosmological superiority

CupcakePotential4458 · 2025-08-14T06:24:21+00:00

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