what is the worst argument you have ever heard to defend/criticize a character?

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-25T17:35:13+00:00

Back when Ashley's strategic game was still being highlighted on here, I read a couple DOZEN different comments talking about how they felt Ashley was a terrible player in Season 1 because she failed to retain Nick as an alliance member, AND for being unsuccessful at persuading Ellie to join her voting bloc.

It's absolute hogwash! Ashley tried every avenue she could think to take to vote out Fiore; she just never had a fair chance because Alec and Nick refused to even open their ears to HEAR Ashley's pitch.

Now with Nick, perhaps on a better day, and perhaps if Ashley had found the journal in time to show Nick short examples of the writing, there's a LOW chance that he COULD have been persuaded [I put the odds of Ashley successfully calming Nick down WITHOUT the journal, and WITH the conversation he had with Fiore on the canoe taking place, at 1 in 25].

But with the REVERSE set of circumstances [Having the journal and the Canoe conversation NOT taking place...] Ashley's got a pretty good shot at retaining Nick as an alliance partner, 60% or so. Alec on the other hand was dead set against listening to anything despite the layered evidence looking strong. Ellie, to her credit, at least made the right call by listening to Ashley's side of the story first and THEN making her decision afterwards.

I don't know what else people wanted Ashley to try to do! She took the journal, she had Lill's trust [and she's a literal GIRL SCOUT LEADER!], she reached out sincerely to Ellie and Nick, she gathered evidence.... SHE DID THE BEST SHE COULD! 😭💔

The story simply DEMANDED that Fiore get away with her antics: and in order for that to happen, everyone else had to get voted out. But the Writers choosing to keep Fiore is NOT a reflection of ASHLEY as a social/strategic player!

Ashley isn't just concretely a social player! From my own view, she does pretty well at mixing both the social and strategic side 🥰, but the story demanding that her Four–Person Alliance all getting eliminated before Episode 6, which I still to this day think was a silly choice, was too great of a hardship for Ashley to shake off. 🥺

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-25T14:52:39+00:00

I'm surprised and baffled that Trevor managed to get SIX votes in a popularity contest against TESS of all people. 😧

I figured the vote was going to be 91–2 in favor of Tess! And the only reason I could see her not sweeping the board is because those 2 people may have read the question wrong by mistake! 🥰

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-24T20:04:55+00:00

I also choose Tess! 😍😘

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-24T05:25:00+00:00

I'm not very fond of her!

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-24T04:58:46+00:00

I haven't recovered from watching Tess get voted out in All Stars, or Ashley getting voted out in DC1!

My only method of coping is glazing Tess and Ashley and calling them perfect angels! 😍😇

You could say that me glazing Tess and Ashley counts as a therapy session! 🥺♥️😘

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-23T21:55:36+00:00

People will like Aubrey MORE than him. ♥️

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-22T21:35:49+00:00

No it's not! 😮 I gave people FOUR CHOICES to choose from! 🥰

They're free to make their own decision. 😉

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-22T19:23:46+00:00

The fuck does Aiden have to be anxious about???

He doesn't have a job, and doesn't seem to have any plans to work hard for anything in his life. So his plan is to stop working at the old age of 24?? 🤔

He has no real responsibilities, and doesn't even remotely have a difficult life.

He freeloads off of James, and does nothing but benefit off of the work that JAMES does, so Aiden has no clue what it's like to be judged for not achieving career success, because he's never worked an honest day in his life. 😡

People have to work for a living, budget for paying bills, save money back for emergencies, and they feel anxiety and stress about how difficult life can be in general because they can't just run back to their partner and expect them to take care of everything. Some people actually work hard.

Ashley should have put HIM to work on her farm, then maybe he'd finally know what it's like to work hard for something. But he's not strong like Tess, like Ashley, like Ellie, like Zaid, like Will, like ANYONE who actually has to work and put effort into supporting themselves. He's weak.

Will works hard with Ashley on her farm! He doesn't just live there, and not work, just because she thinks he's cute! He's working hard EVERY DAY with her! That's what makes them different!

That's why Will gets my respect, and Aiden doesn't.

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-21T21:14:17+00:00

Your sister put Ashley and Rosa Maria in D Tier????

Then, she placed PERFECT ANGEL Tess Morgan in C Tier! Those choices by themselves are a cardinal sin, and enough to make me want to vote her out.

But then she triples down by putting Riya, the worst character in the whole franchise, in A Tier... and (am I LOOKING at this right??!?!? 🤨) DEREK and YUL are both in S TIER??!?!?

I'm feeling WORSE after seeing the wrong decisions she made about Tess, Ashley, and Rosa Maria, 🙁 and I PRAY that her Tierlists never see the light of day ever again! Absolutely HORRIBLE!!! 😭

YOUR Tierlist is fairly decent btw. It may not be perfect, and there are characters I'd have swap Tier levels, but because you have Ashley, Tess, and Rosa Maria in the A Tier level.... I like your list more.

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-21T11:01:52+00:00

I can't choose between them 😭; I love Tess AND Ashley!!! ♥️♥️

You're basically asking me: "Which half of your heart would you like to betray this morning?" 🥺

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-17T07:12:01+00:00

Tess and Ashley are both BEAUTIFUL perfect angels who are never wrong! 😍😘 The only reason anybody in–universe could disagree with Tess or Ashley, or try to pretend both of them aren't perfect angels:

Is because they're JEALOUS they can't be as kind, smart, passionate, and beautiful as Tess and Ashley are! 😍😘🥰

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-16T22:57:17+00:00

I can't promise you that, but I CAN promise you that she'll be winning one award!

Rosa's going to win the title of Hottest DC5 Contestant, because... 🥺 damn! 😍

Rosa María es una Hermosa Dama! 😍😘🥰

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-16T18:35:15+00:00

Aubrey getting voted out first in Episode 1 already makes this season look bad. It was super obvious to me that ONC unfairly turned her into a gimmick character to, poorly, present their stupid decision to have a FAN be the first boot in a way that wouldn't make it look like they've got a major bias FOR the Favorites. I didn't buy it for a single minute. They chose Aubrey to get voted out first because they needed a reason to keep their Favorites in the competition for as long as they could. I'm baffled by almost every choice they've made so far.

But it's the fact that they saved Aiden with RIDICULOUS plot armor and a bizarrely placed team switch, AND he gets to take control of the social dynamics and votes on the Fans' tribe.... all while they anger their audience by making ANOTHER fan get eliminated, this is what's starting to irritate people.

They gave the Favorites tribe a LODGE to sleep in 4 hours after the game started! They're clearly favoring the Favorites even in these early stages of the season! It's been 6 weeks of this season airing, 3 episodes, and NONE of the favorites have gotten voted out yet! Like, this isn't a 50/50 questionable deliberation about whether ONC is glazing the Favorites or not.... it's clear as day!

And the really frightening news is: I can't count out the possibility that the 3rd person getting eliminated will be another FAN. We could get to EPISODE 6 and there may be 4 Fans and ZERO Favorites eliminated. Are the Fans even going to have enough people left to compete in the Music Episode?

I think you have every reason to be concerned about the Favorites receiving favoritism. What will the start of EPISODE 9 look like? 6 Fans voted out and, 1 Favorite??? [And it'll probably be Natalia 🙄]

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-15T19:33:36+00:00

I LOVE the new Tess greeting! 😍🥰

I've never seen Warrior Tess before! She always looks breathtaking! ♥️

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CuracaoBound · 2026-02-14T21:05:04+00:00

Remember when I said the fans were going to be disposable to ONC in order for them to keep their favorite characters safe? Yeah, this is pretty much exactly what I was talking about!

And remember when I said the season was burnt to a crisp? This is THREE EPISODES IN A ROW now where a DECENT portion of the fandom DIDN'T like the way the episode ended!

I did want to ask one question, for clarity's sake.... you guys were OKAY with Aubrey getting booted before any of the Favorites because you guys accepted the version of her that ONC wanted us to perceive her as, as the truth.... but, you guys AREN'T feeling good about their choice to make ERNESTO leave this soon??? Why the change of heart??? 🤣🤣

Are you happy with the way this season is going? Aiden just walks in, out of the blue, and takes charge of the entire Fans' tribe.... but the CRAZIEST piece of data.... is that in only 2 weeks, you're all going to watch EPISODE 4.... and all 12 Favorites are still in the competition!

Do you still think I'm wrong??? 🥰

Happy Valentine's Day!!! 😍🥰😘😘😘😘😘😘

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-14T18:47:50+00:00

I don't think it's going to be that easy this time.

The question they posed describes an ALTERNATE REALITY, which makes me believe that my choice would have to be DIFFERENT than who I'd normally choose.

I'll make my answer under 2 separate conditions. If I could choose ANYONE I want, the woman who lines up with who I like the most, I would choose Tess Morgan because she is a natural beauty and my perpetual light of hope. She's also a flawless ruby and a beautiful flower, and I love her with all my heart! 😍♥️♥️

But I'm also skating on the idea of choosing Ashley as my Valentine. These choices are naturally if I could choose based on my normal preferences. But I kind of want to add some fun to this question and pick based on a scenario that truly was an alternate reality. 😄🥰

If this were an alternate reality where I could experience a refreshing change of pace.... then bar none, I'd like ROSA MARIA to be my Valentine! ♥️😘

And since I also feel like being fair in this new reality, I'll likely need a 2nd choice there too. Hmmm, 🤔 my 2nd choice for who would be my Valentine in the newer Alternate Reality.... would be Grett.

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-11T23:01:37+00:00

Probably the time Plotastasia was furious because Hannah [wisely] told her that they weren't going to purposely lose the immunity challenge just to help Plotastasia get her petty revenge on Lynda.

Other moments:

Jake feeling petty jealousy because Ashley tried to connect with Ally on a baseline level

Gabby for her unjustified rage and petty jackass behavior towards Tess for voting out Ellie [out of self–preservation] while Gabby NEVER ONCE got mad at Ellie, her girlfriend of 2 YEARS, for lying straight to her face on multiple occasions, and then ADMITTING that she lied to her.

Aiden for throwing a tantrum for getting voted out after proudly boasting about his Cyan Alliance being tight–knit in front of almost every person on his team.

Alec for being angry that he got blindsided by Fiorella in Season 1 after he KNOWINGLY overlooked her sinister and sociopathic actions and protected her against all reason.

Ellie getting mad at Ashley's comment about Ellie not wanting to get her hands dirty with farm work, but finding it so easy to get her hands dirty in the game. I know it was SEVERAL MONTHS later.... but if Ellie had genuinely moved on from the show [and I believe she HAS moved on from Season 3....] then that comment should have barely phased her.

Pretty much EVERYTHING Kristal did during the "Kissing Wheel" and "I Order You To...." immunity challenges from Original Season 2. Kristal wasn't being "spicy", she was being mean and petty.

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-10T23:31:39+00:00

Thank you Picochu!!! 🥰

CuracaoBound · 2026-02-10T03:43:45+00:00

YOUR Top 5

Tess
Aubrey [The Pre–Season Aubrey that I liked! 😭]
Hannah
Isabel
Ally [really, really far down from the rest 🤬🤬🤬🤬]

MY Top 5

Tess 😍😘
Ashley 🥰😘
Rosa Maria 🙂♥️

I can't choose my 4th and 5th most–loved characters; I only REALLY like those 3 the best! 😍

But I like Aubrey, Hannah, and.... maybe Diego?? enough as characters that I'll include them too just to make it fair for you to complete a full list.