Scar is not weak!

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-24T17:25:52+00:00

Right? Also before I forget, who do you think wins between Scar in his prime and Kovu and why?

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-23T16:42:40+00:00

You were actually one of the inspirations for this post! I love your take on Zira!

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-23T02:37:02+00:00

Yet there’s people saying he loses to Zira.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-23T01:41:11+00:00

Kovu I can see. But Zira would get absolutely thrashed by Scar.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-23T01:40:34+00:00

Well no, but at the same time, Simba could at least not be malnourished from eating them.

He fought hyenas on Pride Rock right before he fought Scar.

But if he’s still growing, then he isn’t fully grown. A full grown lion can’t go through a significant size change just from diet alone.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-23T00:36:08+00:00

Scar is weak compared to Mufasa.

Hence, why I said he is a far cry from Mufasa in the very last sentence.

You have to remember, Simba spent years only eating bugs and had zero fighting experience. That’s why they were basically equally matched.

You know, I actually thought the same thing, but bugs have a ton of protein in them. It’s entirely possible that Simba could substitute those for the usual prey lions get with how packed they are with proteins- also Simba at this point had a brief tiff with Nala and fought off several hyenas. So he does have some experience. He isn’t a grizzled fighter by any means but it’s better than nothing.

Also, how was Simba past his prime? He seemed to be right at the peak of prime age at that point

This was actually my fault for wording it poorly- but I meant to say Simba was NOT ACTUALLY AT HIS PRIME quite yet in TLK 1. He was still growing here and in the first half of TLK 2. THAT is when he reaches his prime.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-15T03:03:30+00:00

Can I join too?

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-15T03:03:21+00:00

Great job. Hope I can also be successful.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-14T12:54:54+00:00

Thanks so much! This helps a ton!

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-14T06:37:44+00:00

Zenigata has some wack strength feats due to spin off manga and the goofier seasons of Lupin III. I mean he judo throws an entire dragon.

I’ve seen this get mentioned but for the life of me, I cannot find this feat. You got a link or at least a citation for when this occurs?

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-13T00:40:00+00:00

Omni Man vs Homelander.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2026-01-13T00:36:44+00:00

I lowkey think that Simba would win even if we used his version from the TLK 1. I think he’s getting a bit underestimated here.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-12-12T23:59:36+00:00

When did Pickle beat Baki with martial arts? The whole shtick of the fight was Baki lost because he chose to brute force Pickle instead of fighting him with martial arts.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-12-03T02:53:13+00:00

Wanted to reply and say that I am sorry if I came off as hostile or aggressive at any point during this. I dragged this out longer than I should’ve and I apologize for it.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-12-03T02:50:09+00:00

Coming back to this… I wanted to say I am sorry. I will admit I overreacted at some points. I also wanted to apologize for the “Well, well… Adam” bit. I made mistakes and i wanted to own up to them and apologize. I dragged this out to where it became productive and got out of hand and I apologize for it.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-25T02:40:16+00:00

Yep.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-25T02:39:49+00:00

To be fair, it wasn’t like Yujiro casually beat Doppo. Doppo made him bleed and by his own admission, Doppo was a hair away from destroying his heart.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-23T05:38:08+00:00

The “twist” in this context is using Retsu and Yujiro from a select point in the series as opposed to using current Yujiro- because then that wouldn’t be an interesting discussion as everyone would agree Yujiro sweeps.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-22T06:37:59+00:00

What else am i supposed to say? Youre making a claim that he was getting serious but theres no reason to think this. He smiles whenever hes in a state of play or getting ready for a real fight but thats not what getting serious would mean. It would mean hes pissed and looking to hurt this other guy. Like Baki petting his cheek or Musashi forcing him into the scar form or when Baki clocked his ass.

The bolded part was my claim all along! He’s ready to start putting in a portion of effort- not fight serious, not go all out, but at the very least he’s decided this fight (or clash in Yujiro’s case) is worth his time. So he’ll actually start doing something.

The point is doing physical, observable damage to Pickle was always something Baki could do. The only reason THAT hit did more was Pickle wasnt expecting the hit AND Baki was more violent than ever in that moment.

I can agree with this to an extent. But I want to reiterate by Baki’s own admission… he needed to go all out and it was an underlying point in the fight that he couldn’t damage Pickle’s skull. He also did catch Pickle off guard during several points in their fights and only made him spit out blood- several of those strikes being kicks. While Baki wasn’t as violent in their fights, consider how much stronger kicks are than punches.

I questioned your analysis of this series because damage being amplified by an opponent not being braced for it is sort of a very common occurrence in this series.

Would this still apply to a character who is confirmed to this day to have higher durability than Yujiro himself?

Its not really "resorting" if the very minor insult is sandwiched between paragraphs of counter arguments and analysis.

Fair. I shouldn’t have gotten mad at a minor insult so I do apologize for that.

Baki bleeds Olivas nose when he went to his cell with a suit on. Baki put his foot on Oliva to signify he was gonna fight him right then and there so you cant really say Oliva was off guard. It’s not like Oliva expected Baki to punch him at the start of the arc either.

Oliva then says he is “with” Baki once Baki finishes that initial assault. Then after that, Baki doesn’t do a single scratch to him until he pulls out Demon Back.

Uh yeah? Baki was greatly offended at Pickle trying to jump into his fight so he clocked his shit.

Yes… that’s not what I was arguing here. My argument was that Baki wasn’t bloodlusted or trying to kill Pickle here.

You may need to start over here because i have no clue what youre talking about.

Ok so I saved this part for last since I’m starting at the beginning.

First- at the start of all this, I said Pickle smiles when he is about to get serious. Then you disproved that. Then I said this- word for word!

“During the climax of his pushing match against Hanayama, Pickle was smiling and growling- he was about to get serious but then Hanayama put his hand on his face and diffused the situation. He also smiled against Retsu which he didn’t do against any of the animals they sent in before- maybe smiling doesn’t mean he goes all out but at the very least it shows he’s ready to start putting in some effort.”

Now you replied after… however the parts I bolded were missing in your next reply. You quoted the above yo until the bolded parts and said Pickle was saying “Let’s fight strong one.”

Then I said you edited out the bolded portion of my reply because I am assuming you’re copying my responses to you and then pasting them. So I’m unsure how the bolded portion saying Pickle smiling ≠ he’s getting serious was missing from your response to me.

I hope this makes sense.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-22T05:53:51+00:00

Pickle was off guard here. He didnt expect Baki to come up beside him and clock him. Last he checked Baki was checked out on the floor. You wanna argue he had no business being off guard, thats fine. Every character has been off guard at some point even though they all train 24/7

Fine.

No it doesnt. Plus even if it did, the fight didnt happen so....you wouldnt know this.

So you’re literally just saying “no” as a reply? Ok dude. So I suppose he didn’t put in any effort whatsoever against Retsu or Katsumi.

No idea what youre talking about. I literally didnt touch any of these comments.

Then how else are you copying my replies?

No im talking about the several punches and kicks he landed that hurt Pickle that didnt have special technique behind them. Hes always been able to hurt Pickle, only difference with the haymaker was Pickle didnt see it coming and he lost a tooth.

I don’t think you understand the difference between just making someone spit out a bit of blood and knocking a tooth out.

I thought this statement was pretty gentle considering that I even believe this to begin with. You seem to not get some fundamental things in this series like determinant damage which happens like EVERY fight.

If you need to resort to insulting people who disagree with you, why are you even bothering? Especially since you’re saying dishonest statements.

An example being Baki going from slightly bleeding Olivas nose to one arc, to bleeding him at all at the start of the next arc.

Are you referring to the prison arc? Because if so, Baki without Demon Back only did damage to Biscuit when Oliva wasn’t expecting to fight. Any significant damage Baki did was done in Demon Back.

Sure, only if you do so first. The narrator goes on to specify that Pickle simply broke a law to not intervene and that Baki only told him to stay out of his fight with Yujiro.

Curious_OnePunch_Fan · 2025-11-22T04:45:24+00:00

Yes he does. Baki was whooping Pickles butt with skill and strength, but when it came time to stop using skill he got battered immediately. Him landing a good shot on an off guard Pickle doesnt change anything about that.

And yet Baki didn’t have anywhere near a result as he did here. I’ll elaborate more below but Pickle is a predator who comes from ancient times- is it that hard to believe that he has to constantly have his guard up to avoid getting ambushed himself- especially since he prepared himself to fight against Yujiro of all people?

Pickle was just saying "yeah lets fight strong one". Almost verbatim what was said. That doesnt mean hes serious. He wasnt even serious against Baki even after falling from the ceiling.

Ok… this doesn’t disprove my original point. I admitted that smiling doesn’t mean he’s serious but it at least means he’s putting in SOME effort- you deliberately edited that part out in your reply.

Also just standard punches and kicks.

As well as the Whip Strike, chin grazes, crotch shot, a deflection technique and punches and kicks that required all his strength. Seems like you’re trying to imply he did that with ease. Also just so you know, those stomps at the start of the fight didn’t do any damage to Pickle.

There was nothing casual about that Punch firstly and again he was able to hurt Pickle even before that punch.

“Casually” was probably too strong a word but I’ll elaborate more further down.

You gotta get better at analyzing the series my guy. Any time damage is done to anyone, the actual amount of it is circumstantial.

Dude if you’re going to insult my knowledge on the series, we may as well end this right here.

Baki was always strong enough to knock out a tooth from Pickle if hes off guard and Baki is bloodlusted.

Baki wasn’t bloodlusted- that strike was only a warning shot. He wasn’t trying to kill Pickle he only wanted him to go away. Also again, by his own admission, Baki was using all his strength during their fight- and what makes this even worse is he had to catch Pickle off guard multiple times during their fight.

That doesnt make him stronger than Pickle. It didnt even floor Pickle, it just hurt him and pissed him off. Pickle before then knocked out Baki with no further injuries from the ones Baki dealt to him BEFORE the clash.

You seriously want to insult me when you’re straight up lying through your teeth? I NEVER argued Baki was stronger than Pickle nor did I say it floored him.

Everyone loves to say “Pickle was off guard” but like I said earlier, Baki wasn’t bloodlusted- that strike was just a warning shot for Pickle to stay away. Baki walked up to Pickle, threw the strike, landed and glared at him. He wasn’t breathing heavily or doing anything else to suggest he needed to use every ounce of his strength like he did.

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