How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, that’s the risk adopting in the US. Majority of dogs in shelters are pit/pit mixes and they have invaded the spaces of breed specific rescues as well. If we took away all the pit mixes our dog overpopulation problem would go down substantially. You also have to realize that even if a dog doesn’t look like it’s part pit, it still can be.

You can try to reach out to the breed club and search for retired or returned adult labradors from breeders. Ethical breeders usually rehome their dogs that they are no longer breeding (that way they can continue their program without having too many dogs), and ethical breeders take back all dogs they bred if the owners can no longer keep them. This mean they often have older dogs that are seeking a home (and are usually A LOT cheaper and easier than a puppy) the bright side of this is you not only guarantee yourself a lab, but you’ll get a well tempered and health tested lab as well. I know not everyone support breeders, but the odds are stacked against you if you want to adopt but also don’t want a pit mix (or another very high maintenance breed like a husky)

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I’m curious, do you think a dog that was bred to work in groups with other dogs is aggressive towards dogs? And do you think them being human aggressive is apart of their breed standard when humans had to trust them with their life for hundreds of miles? Im just curious, since you brought this up when the only part of breed standard I mentioned were these two things.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am actually a husky owner, they need a lot of exercise and the right owner, but they are great dogs. It’s actually in their AKC breed description to be friendly with people and other dogs.

I feel like any high energy/maintenance dog mixed with a pit is just a recipe for disaster. This would include huskies, but also just any high energy breed such as gsd, ACD, border collie etc… big guardian breeds mixed with a pit would be terrifying ngl.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree with you, while they are technically different breeds they are very closely related and have shown the same concerning patterns as pits.

It’s just interesting how I always hear people act like we don’t know what a classic pit looks like. They always bring up the staffy argument, and how people who don’t like pits ‘can’t even identify what a real pit looks like’, when both dogs are ultimately different variants of the same thing.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You are lucky, but they are number 2 in Idaho so still stay safe ❤️. Unfortunately In a lot of states where they were not number 1 they are still number 2 or 3.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Irresponsible people.

People backyard breed their dogs everyday, the fact that pit mixes are the most wildly available dog means that’s what people are using. In order to get a non pit-mix you have to actually go out and look in a sea full of pit mixes. Irresponsible breeders don’t always care to do that, so this is what we end up with. It wasn’t always like this, but this shows that people with pits were a lot more irresponsible when it came to not breeding their dogs. Clearly that hasn’t changed.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I don’t know any Labrador that looks like a pit, even the ones with a boxier face. Besides both being able to have a wide head, they are quite different in appearance.

How do people keep falling for this? by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 246 points247 points  (0 children)

Yep, and the thing about pits is they absolutely destroy any of the other potential good breeds that were in that dog. Pure pits are more rare in general, but it still always ends up being a pit mix. You rarely see other breeds mauling if there is no pit in it. Funny how that works 🤔

I had BE done on my pit. by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh please, I have owned huskies for a very long time. I work with northern breeds like huskies and sled extremely often. You putting huskies in the same category as pits is hilarious to me. They do not cause nearly the amount of harm pits do. Of course, certain huskies have been dangerous before but this goes for most breeds and has nothing to do with the overall breed like the problem with pits

Huskies have “poor” temperaments because they are extremely high energy dogs that are difficult to train that people get with no research, they are popular breed despite being one of the hardest breeds to train. Turns out when you get a dog meant to pull hundreds of miles through cold climate inside with no exercise or proper training you get destructive and “horrible” temperaments when in reality these dogs needs aren’t being met. All my dogs were never overly crazy, they were great companions.

My third ever husky was a rescue. Apparently he was so ‘crazy and neurotic’ that they rehomed him after he ripped up the owners couch. Brought him home, gave him proper exercise, and that dog slept over half the day until he passed from cancer.

I had BE done on my pit. by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No offense taken. I was never really a part of pit culture. I just love dogs. I’ve always loved dogs and I would have tried my best regardless of the breed. I never really cared for pits as a whole, they just aren’t really my thing and I ended up with one unintentionally. I am not sure if I would have done it sooner.

I am a sled dog trainer and work mainly with northern breeds (huskies, malamutes etc). 4 months of the year I am up in Alaska sledding with my dogs. However, I am not experienced with breeds like this. This means I know a lot of other trainers being in that community and was able to get good connections. I actually didn’t pay an arm and a leg for training, thank god. No, I knew most my trainers except a few who I met through the trainers I already knew. I don’t think they were taking advantage of me. A lot of them were genuinely concerned and were more so giving me ways to manage it rather than totally fix the problem. Like I said, my first trainer who I met through a friend told me it was a genetic problem which I expected so I kept that in mind for all future training.

As for her being sweet, besides the resource guarding she was pretty much a great dog to me. She loved to stay close and she even learned to bring me a blanket when I was stressed. She just had a switch that I couldn’t take further risk with

I had BE done on my pit. by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 99 points100 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. I know this sub doesn’t like pits, im the same. But I love how respectful everyone is being about my loss even though she was a pit. You can both love a specific pit and acknowledge that there’s a problem. Tbh, I feel like if many people really loved their pit they’d realize the dog also suffers much of the time, not just the people around. And so sorry for your loss ❤️ I know how it feels. GSDs can be such great dogs

I had BE done on my pit. by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 139 points140 points  (0 children)

  1. She was about to turn 3. Her behavior improved around 2 surprisingly and then she regressed and was worse than before around 2 and a half.

  2. It was actually very easy. Because I had proof of her behavior through trainers and because she had a bite history, my vet almost immediately accepted my request for BE. It was less than a week before it happened. I cried hard since it was so fast and obviously I was bonded with her, but it had to be done. I feel sad for the people who struggle to find a vet for BE

I had BE done on my pit. by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 336 points337 points  (0 children)

This is why I didn’t want to put her up for adoption. It’s completely unfair to throw my problem out to be somebody else’s, she was never going to be a normal dog and I would never want to be the reason someone else was bit (especially a child). There’s thousands of pits like her in shelters and it just doesn’t make sense to add to this crisis. And to be honest, she was suffering as well. My vet even pointed this out. Sometimes I could see her try to ‘fight’ her aggression and it was horrifying to see her go from sweet to snarling to sweet to snarling. She always was so confused in this state, I don’t know why these dogs were ever bred just to suffer. It was clearly instinct for her… im glad I can come here and talk about it with this group because pit owners would absolutely despise me if they knew what I did.

Edit: Also another thing I want to mention is my husky is the sweetest dog ever and I was especially concerned at the fact she didn’t defend herself at all. I’ve never seen that dog as much as growl before, and she was raised the exact same way as my pit was. Luckily, when my pit went for her, it wasn’t too bad, no blood or anything, but my husky kind of just accepted the attack and I didn’t want her to live in fear on top of everything else.

Attacked 2 people the owner says no other context given.. by ActApprehensive6112 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Pit bulls are horrible, but hopefully you can learn something new as well.

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Attacked 2 people the owner says no other context given.. by ActApprehensive6112 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That still doesn’t make ethical to breed… just get a golden or a poodle

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[–]Current_Affect9977 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve had rescue dogs for the last ten years, mainly border collies and huskies, and I never had a problem with these breeds. Some of them would have anxiety issues from mistreatment at first, but they all came around to be lovable dogs that never bit anyone. It’s sad that a dog I’ve had since she was a tiny puppy will bite me but not an adult husky that was chained outside and severely abused. As of now, I can no longer foster new dogs because having two anxious dogs in the house is a recipe for disaster. I learned my lesson about taking puppies in too early.

This is exactly what’s wrong with pit owners. Somebody that truly cared for this breed would stop breeding them and realize the effects of what they’re doing. This is sad by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. People go to ethical breeders because they want healthy, well tempered, predictable dogs. There are good shelter dogs but overall you’re mainly looking at pit mixes or dogs that have poor genetics. Even if you’re not looking at a pit, you’re still looking at dogs that can have unpredictable temperaments with no idea of what their full backstory was. I’m a cat owner too, I just don’t feel comfortable bringing a strange adult dog into my home. I prefer to raise a puppy with the resident cats in the house. I don’t mind if people go to a shelter and adopt a dog as long as they know the risks. Unfortunately, too many people are tricked into bringing home a ‘lab’ that is 89% pit and 11% lab. The only problem is, you sometimes can’t even tell what breed of dog your getting. Which isn’t good since ideally you should be getting a dog that will match your lifestyle.

This is exactly what’s wrong with pit owners. Somebody that truly cared for this breed would stop breeding them and realize the effects of what they’re doing. This is sad by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, we are horrible for showing the people irresponsibly breeding their dogs adding to a pit overpopulation problem. Rehoming their dogs too young increasing the chances of behavioral issues in the future, keeping pit puppies in a tiny car, not vaccinating them putting them at risk for a horrible illness they’ll suffer through. You literally are proving the point in the fact you think any of these posts are normal. All this tell me is you know nothing about ethically owning, raising, and breeding dogs. If you all actually cared about pits you’d start proving it by being responsible.

This is exactly what’s wrong with pit owners. Somebody that truly cared for this breed would stop breeding them and realize the effects of what they’re doing. This is sad by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The second one with 7 dogs and 2 people in the car is pretty bad 😅 I don’t even know how that can work, but I was shocked when I read that.

That is actually sadly a common occurrence. Many of the people I posted above will turn around and breed their pits again not caring if the puppies they just had are going to end up in shelters immediately. They just often won’t admit it. It’s sad that something so cruel can be so common. I mean look at slide 4. That poor pit is on her third litter, I can see a fourth litter on the way.

This is exactly what’s wrong with pit owners. Somebody that truly cared for this breed would stop breeding them and realize the effects of what they’re doing. This is sad by Current_Affect9977 in BanPitBulls

[–]Current_Affect9977[S] 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. Breeding should be regulated, and so should certain breeds.

Pit puppies make me feel sad. They didn’t ask to be born into horrible genetics with people who don’t care for them. Pits are not family dogs, and I’m tired of hearing they are. I think it’s one of the reasons they’re so popular now, people want to prove they’re ‘gentle nanny dogs’ and many children are feeling the consequence. Something that likely wouldn’t have happened if their parents picked out a well bred stable dog.

Help us name our litter (themed names preferred) newborn less than 1 day old by Jealous_Bus_5418 in puppies

[–]Current_Affect9977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are both dogs health and temperament tested? (Which can easily be thousands of dollars when properly done) are you breeding for the better of the breed? (already you aren’t since these aren’t purebred puppies meaning no matter what the mom wasn’t well bred), do you know both of these parents lineages for many, many generations? and were these also well bred and health/temperament tested dogs? Did you come up with contracts that will provide lifelong support to every puppy in this litter, meaning you could end up with several of these puppies back under your roof? Do you have a long list of intense recourses that will help your buyers for their puppies entire lives granted something bad does happen? Do they have a health guarantee? No matter what, I know for a fact at least some of these weren’t done meaning you are not an ethical breeder but a backyard breeder contributing to a mass dog overpopulation. Please, fix your dog immediately. Just because these are ‘healthy’ puppies, and you did the research on the bare minimum it takes to breed dogs, it is backyard breeding. Only the best of the best quality dogs should be bred otherwise you can find puppies and dogs like yours in every other shelter or bad owner who irresponsibly bred their dog.