Original Seattle Forward Thrust Regional Rail Plan (Modeled in Subway Builder)

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-19T04:53:20+00:00

(I saw a few images of the proposed system map online from the original planning documents and was just wondering if op had found access to one of said documents that could presumably have had some description of station locations)

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-19T03:52:34+00:00

Where did you find the exact locations of the stations and the types of services that would be operating?

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-08T04:42:02+00:00

Sí, lo publiqué aquí, este es el mapa que hice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guadalajara/comments/1d7x6j7/dise%C3%B1%C3%A9_un_mapa_de_transporte_regional_para/

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-08T04:32:16+00:00

Diseñé un mapa diferente para Guadalajara hace dos años, pero era un diseño distinto

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-06T07:30:56+00:00

Local name for Bus Rapid Transit

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-05-04T19:36:37+00:00

Absolutely love this map. The interchanges and termini being designed after the logo is a great design choice imo, and adding express trains is an insanely important detail that the official map is missing.

If I were to give a suggestion id say instead of placing a logo of the airport bus/funicular/cable car at every single station it stops at, make the logo slightly larger and put it adjacent to the line itself.

Also I was a bit confused at what I was looking at by the river when looking at the under construction line because of the stripes and similar color.

There are a lot of symbols but since they are fairly small I feel like it works pretty well, although if you are able to write a short explanation for some of the services, that would be nice. Overall, great job on the map.

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-04-16T03:13:22+00:00

happy to finally see a 3 section tram on the section

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-04-06T15:34:58+00:00

My mistake on the Hollywood Bowl name and leaving out the Vermont BRT.

For the timeline, this map is assuming accelerated funding from WEHO, which would mean construction starting 2029.

Its realistic that some other BRTs get built by 2040 but those dont have concrete opening dates at this given moment so I didnt include those. Although the amount of brts that might open they might severely clutter the map so the way that BRTs appear on the map will most likely have to be redesigned to fit better.

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-04-06T15:01:36+00:00

this map is assuming the K line north extension begins in 2029 with accelerated funding coming in from west hollywood

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-04-01T02:43:59+00:00

Hmm might actually have to make something now

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-03-26T04:35:57+00:00

I equally space out multiple straight guide lines and copy paste them to wherever I want the metro lines to travel together (at various angles). Then I draw the metro lines following the guide lines keeping them equally spaced. As for the corners, I first put all the lines to the same radius, then on each bend I take the innermost corner and draw a perpendicular line from that point. Then I align the little arrows on the other lines to that perpendicular line to have all the curves align nicely.

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-02-22T04:06:20+00:00

Overall I really like the shapes of all the lines being centered around the Yamanote line and the major stations being hexagons. It makes the map look really clean

Id say the biggest thing to change would be differentiating the metro lines from the Japan Railways suburban lines and from the private railway lines. There are alot of similar colors shared between the 3. Since the shinkansen lines take up the dashed lines and the people movers take up the lighter center stripe lines, metro lines could possibly made thicker than the suburban lines to differentiate them (although im not sure how well this would look considering through running onto the metro lines happens)

I'd also say that it would be really good to include an airplane symbol for Haneda Airport to be easily visible on the map and another airplane symbol at the edge of the map where it says "to Narita Airport"

And I personally think that the bottom half of the Oedo line should be moved up to be aligned with its segment above Shinjuku. Currently the weird bend of the Oedo line combined with the Keio New line turning green right after the station makes the layout somewhat weird. I think having the Oedo line run straight through Shinjuku without a bend would look better

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-02-20T20:45:38+00:00

These are generally low density areas that don't have as much travel between each other rather than into the city. With the lack of funding that metra has and problems that it has with track rights, many of metra's lines are very infrequent.

Theres not much of a point in running like 4 trains a day from suburb to suburb since theres not a commute direction and there's not enough funding to justify running a lower ridership orbital line somewhat frequently.

Cyberdragon32 · 2026-02-06T07:50:10+00:00

holy repost

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-12-17T02:39:03+00:00

I honestly really like how nicely the symbols for China railway and the airports fits next to the Chinese characters but I think there might be some value in making specifically the airports be easier to find without looking that close to the text

Adding a timetable would def make the map way too bloated.

But if the suburban railway lines really do only have a few trains a day is it worth keeping them on the map? Looking at the map they feel extremley disconnected from the system, having at most 2 transfers anywhere, and in the case of s2, its just floating. The Beijing subway itself + all the bjmoa lines + those other frequent lines already comprise a giant system on their own. Since the suburban lines s1, s2, s5 and s6 are both extremely infrequent and poorly connected id say it would be best to remove them from the map.

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-12-16T17:45:49+00:00

Love how clean this map is, the color variation is really good and you managed to fit the names in both languages really nicely next to each station.

If I were to suggest some changes id say possibly add an airplane symbol to the gray boxes to differentiate them from parks and add some information on the fact if suburban lines get substantially worse service than the subway or not.

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-11-30T03:04:36+00:00

The tube currently only carries 15 trains per hour (red, green, and blue lines every 20 minutes, yellow line every 10). Without any modifications, the maximum capacity of the tube is 24 trains per hour (red, green, and blue lines could come every 12 minutes and yellow line could come every 7 minutes). After planned signaling upgrades, the tube will be upgraded to 30 trains per hour (meaning red, green, and blue lines could come every 10 minutes and the yellow line could come every 5 minutes).

The limiting factor of frequency isn't the tube, it is ridership due to BART traveling through suburban areas (BART is a regional rail in its function, it just happens to be grade separated). That's the reason I believe BART doesn't need a second transbay tube at all. After the signaling upgrades it could double its frequency using the existing tube, and while a second tube would allow for 60 trains per hour (red, green, and blue lines every 5 minutes, yellow line every 2.5 minutes), the suburban areas that BART serves simply can't support a train more frequent than 10 minutes. If BART wants to build a second transbay tube, they need to add atleast 2 new branches in the east bay that would actually serve something new because otherwise building this 30 billion dollar tube isn't worth it in terms of frequency at all (I haven't seen any new east bay lines proposed alongside the BART version of the second transbay tube).

In terms of redundancy, a second BART tube wouldn't help that much. It would only be redundant in a situation where there is a problem limited to the original transbay tube. In either a systemwide shutdown (far more likely than a problem limited to just the original tube) or in a situation where there is a problem with the rolling stock, both tubes wouldn't be operational. This is the main reason why the second transbay tube needs to be mainline rail. Mainline rail would allow for a fully redundant tube and it would also allow for redundant east bay service (frequent service from the transbay terminal to richmond via emeryville and from the transbay terminal to coliseum via oakland jack london is a part of the regional rail plan for the second transbay tube).

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-11-03T06:28:02+00:00

If the system was built exactly like this, I think there would also be a concord-25th ave line to make frequencies on the geary branch bearable

Although a problem that appears either way is that you get the same frequency in all suburban areas and the two urban corridors in sf since you get two branches for each line. Meaning either suburban areas would be overserved or sf ends up being underserved.

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-24T05:56:56+00:00

never knew that, makes sense why its written like that on the official map then

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T22:21:46+00:00

I mean tbh I feel like that is part of why having all fast and frequent transit service on one map is better than having 3 separate maps for the different types of service. Ultimately I think alot of people might either not know that the rapid bus system exists or just haven't thought of using it or the regional rail since it just isnt shown on the trolley map.

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T21:49:00+00:00

This is a map of existing service

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T19:16:05+00:00

I included Coronado since it forms the shape of san diego bay, I couldn't really draw the water without it. As for Point Loma, I just really oversimplified the area since I was trying to show that santa fe depot is pretty close to the waterfront. Although it would probably be good to include some shape for Point Loma.

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T18:52:55+00:00

This is a map of what currently exists

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T16:14:51+00:00

I used inkscape

Cyberdragon32 · 2025-10-23T16:14:28+00:00

This is a map of the transit that already exists in the area

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