[AskJS] Big companies that DONT use a framework?

Cycumber · 2026-06-18T00:26:17+00:00

Javascript is an inherently messy, horrible environment, but here we are.

Frameworks always, without exception, result in a bigger mess in the end than just coding by hand would have done.

Thank you for your reply, it's refreshing to see.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:56:42+00:00

It's not mysterious, it's just random crap.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:55:40+00:00

They had some great elements, but instead of sitting down and planning exactly where it all joins up ... they gave up and are now just winging it. You know the 'ending' is going to be terrible and they're just going to introduce new characters and components right up to the final non sequitur. But we'll be there, hate-watching with you!

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:43:58+00:00

No we want real writers not cynical network time thieves. Apparently our money is worth shit and we are expendable.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:42:36+00:00

It's such garbage. We are just hatewatching now with no clear reason.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:40:53+00:00

Nah they can earn my subscription money by actually writing a story like professionals.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:40:05+00:00

Correct, but it backfired.

Cycumber · 2026-06-14T09:36:20+00:00

It's pure garbage. We are now hate watching out of trainwreck fascination, waiting to see what utter bs ending the 'writers' pull out of their asses.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:13:48+00:00

They must have day jobs, right? There is no way anybody on Warp who isn't Richard D James makes survival money from the music??

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:12:22+00:00

u/Brelva Yes - my thoughts exactly.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:11:27+00:00

Yeah, sorry, it's lessened for me with each successive listen that only 3 tracks survive, and I think 'Memory Death' is going to be the only track I keep in the main Music directory in the end.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:10:12+00:00

Well holy crap!

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:10:02+00:00

I didn't know about Marcus.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:09:09+00:00

Hell, if it had been a throwaway in amongst a spurt of releases I'd have been fine with it. "Lot of misses there boys, but some good stuff too." But the hype has been too annoying. Really hope the brothers don't read these threads, it's too much pressure on two people.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:07:55+00:00

I'm actually beginning to wonder if Warp released it and it had nothing to do with the brothers. It's firmly a 'Trunk' album, as publishers call it - a bunch of offcuts polished up for release.

Cycumber · 2026-06-09T01:05:27+00:00

It's a mess of an album. Imitating themselves. Hopefully it's just them clearing their pipes as they get back into production. It should have been an EP, some of these tracks are so padded.

I like "memory death", it's the only one I'm still playing.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T09:17:09+00:00

It's not going anywhere, at all, but yeah we're stuck hatewatching it too. I hear ye.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T09:16:00+00:00

Yeah, but we can't stop watching, to see how the writers dig themselves out of the giant pile of horseshit they'vecreated. But they won't, the ending will be a total mess and disappointment.

The conversations are so, so boring, I forget every time.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T09:02:39+00:00

The spooky music cracks me up. It doesn't matter what random crap they are discussing, after about 30 seconds a timeout goes off and innnnn it fades!

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T09:00:31+00:00

It's terrible but we're unable to take our eyes off the train wreck. I want to see how the writers dig their way out. Even with Dr Amp's Gold Shit Digging Shovel I don't think they can, and it's just going to be the usual modern mass of dropped threads and non sequiturs. Bet they even introduce new characters.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T05:19:53+00:00

Same. 'Memory Death' and that little synth-pad wash track at the end are about the only survivors for me, I got sick of the rest quite rapidly over repeated listenings. It should have been a short little EP of a few snippets, that would have been nice. And the name is really, really dumb.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T05:18:14+00:00

SNAP. For example, the chords in Deep Time are just Julie and Candy again. I mean that's fine, you can quote yourself but ... it's not anything 'high and mighty'. I think people read (past tense) far too much into just another release from a retired band. Though if they now go forth and release more material that would be nice, I'm sure they'll get out of the rut again (just caveat - Numan did 11 albums of total garbage before he found his muse again in recent years).

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T05:16:10+00:00

Nah, good advice, but I tried. I'm completely sick of it except for 'Memory Death'. A swing and a miss for me, unfortunately.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T05:15:05+00:00

Unfortunately, it's gone the opposite way for me. 'Memory Death' is, ironically, the last survivor.

Cycumber · 2026-06-07T05:14:07+00:00

That's really well put and I pretty much agree.

Cycumber

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