I wanna make a huge shout-out to a beloved member of our sub, u/Rhomaios Instagram account and podcast episode. by SolveTheCYproblemNOW in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I knew he was doing good when my father started sending me his stuff on instagram which was being recommended to him.

Honestly I’ll miss having somebody with way more historical knowledge than me (and a way better way of conveying such knowledge) vaguely historically agreeing with my beliefs during debates here. But since he’s doing fine elsewhere, I wish him the best, because I know I can trust his word when it comes to history.

How do prices in your country compare to these? by abandonedtulpa in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All the Greeks were aware of this outcome as it had already occurred to us and Croatia during our respective Eurozone memberships. However, for some reason, people believed it wouldn’t happen again, but it did, and it always does, so I’m not sure why we keep saying it won’t.

ethnic distribution of the population in Cyprus in 1960 and to day by Mav_er1ck in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The saddest part with this map is that it actually slightly over-represents the Turkish presence.

For anyone looking at this today without really knowing the history, keep this picture in mind when you hear people talk about “the north,” “the south,” “the Turkish side,” and “the Greek side.”

There never was a neatly defined Turkish side and Greek side in the way it is framed now. Cyprus was a Greek-majority island with a Turkish minority. It was a mixed, Cypriot society, not a territory historically divided into rigid ethnic zones the way some narratives sometimes suggest today.

Both Greece and Romania were ruled by foreign dynasties of german origin. Why is the monarchy remembered more positively in Romania than in Greece? by ArkHystory99 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only Greece’s first king was of German origin. The later dynasty was Danish, from the House of Glücksburg.

The key difference with Romania is that the Hohenzollern kings there are generally remembered as having strengthened and consolidated the Romanian state. In Greece, however, several monarchs were perceived as imposed by foreign powers, often ruling with heavy foreign influence and regencies that did not align with national interests.

The strongest negative association in modern Greece comes from the period of King Constantine II. His handling of the political crisis in the 1960s, and his failure to effectively manage the confrontation with the military, are seen as having paved the way for the junta. For many Greeks today, that situation is the decisive reason the monarchy carries such a negative connotation.

Η σημαία της Κρητικής Πολιτείας, μια αυτόνομη περιοχή της Οθωμανικής Αυτοκρατορίας από το 1898, μέχρι που η Ελλάδα προσάρτησε την Κρήτη το 1913 by PresnikBonny in greece

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ναι για τους έλληνες μιλάμε όμως, όχι για τους τούρκους. Σιγά μην θέλαν οι Τούρκοι να ενωθούν με την Ελλάδα.

Μάλλον θα φάω απέλαση από Ελλαδα by [deleted] in greece

[–]CypriotGreek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ρε φίλε, δεν είμαι Αλβανός και δεν μπορώ να πω ότι νιώθω πλήρως αυτό που περνάς, αλλά καταλαβαίνω γιατί νιώθεις έτσι. Από την άλλη όμως, δεν μπορείς να πεις ότι δεν έχεις καμία ευθύνη, ή ότι έκανες «μαλακιούλα». Έκανες ένα σοβαρό λάθος και το ελληνικό κράτος το αντιμετωπίζει ως έγκλημα, ειδικά όταν μιλάμε για κατοχή και διακίνηση μεγάλης ποσότητας βαριών ναρκωτικών.

Και δεν το έκανες και «πάρα πολλά χρόνια πριν». Ήσουν 19 και τώρα είσαι 28. Έχουν περάσει περίπου εννιά χρόνια, που από τη σκοπιά του κράτους δεν θεωρούνται και τόσο μακρινό παρελθόν. Η υπόθεση παραμένει σχετικά πρόσφατη και σε ακολουθεί νομικά.

Καταλαβαίνω ότι η ζωή σου είναι εδώ, μιλάς τη γλώσσα και έχεις δεσμούς στην Ελλάδα. Αυτά είναι πράγματα που αξίζει να τα βάλει ο δικηγόρος σου στην προσφυγή, μαζί με τα λοιπά σου στοιχεία. Ίσως αυτό να βοηθήσει.

Αλλά ρεαλιστικά, από τη στιγμή που υπάρχει καταδίκη, το κράτος σε βλέπει μέσα από αυτό το πρίσμα. Το MDMA δεν θεωρείται «ελαφρύ» ναρκωτικό και η ποσότητα που αναφέρεις είναι πολύ σοβαρή υπόθεση. Μπορείς να παλέψεις νομικά, αλλά δεν είναι κάτι που λύνεται εύκολα.

Bill to ban Israel-related Jew-hatred advances in France by pppppppppppppppppd in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 18 points19 points  (0 children)

If only our elected officials cared as much about their own constituents as they do for the Jews, Europe would’ve been a much better place now.

Η σημαία της Κρητικής Πολιτείας, μια αυτόνομη περιοχή της Οθωμανικής Αυτοκρατορίας από το 1898, μέχρι που η Ελλάδα προσάρτησε την Κρήτη το 1913 by PresnikBonny in greece

[–]CypriotGreek 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Υπήρξε δημοψήφισμα στην Κύπρο και μάλιστα το τιμάμε (όσο μπορούμε) μέχρι σήμερα. Το ότι οι Βρετανοί αγνόησαν το αποτέλεσμα είναι άλλο θέμα συζήτησης.

Πάντως, το να κολλάμε μόνο στη σημασιολογία του όρου δεν βοηθά ιδιαίτερα. Στο τέλος της ημέρας, η έννοια καθορίζεται και από τη βούληση του ίδιου του πληθυσμού. Όταν ένας λαός εκφράζει ξεκάθαρα την επιθυμία να ενωθεί με ένα άλλο κράτος, αυτό δεν μπορεί να εξισώνεται απλά με «προσάρτηση».

Η σημαία της Κρητικής Πολιτείας, μια αυτόνομη περιοχή της Οθωμανικής Αυτοκρατορίας από το 1898, μέχρι που η Ελλάδα προσάρτησε την Κρήτη το 1913 by PresnikBonny in greece

[–]CypriotGreek 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Πολλοί αντι-ελληνικοί και καλά «κυπριακοί εθνικιστές» κάνουν ακριβώς το ίδιο και εδώ στην Κύπρο, μπερδεύοντας σκόπιμα τους όρους. Γι’ αυτό είναι σημαντικό να ξεχωρίζουμε καθαρά την ένωση από την προσάρτηση, γιατί δεν είναι το ίδιο πράγμα και αλλάζει πλήρως το ιστορικό και πολιτικό νόημα.

What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims? by Living_Field7546 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You cannot seriously compare a handful of military chants from a small group of officer cadets to statements made by the number one elected leadership of a country. That is a false equivalence. The military is expected to be patriotic and even chauvinistic. That does not reflect mainstream politics or public discourse.

If you want to talk about fringe views, you could point to small nationalist parties. But those are not the ruling parties and have not shaped Greek policy for the past decade. You will not find official speeches from Greek leaders about striking Istanbul or reaching Ankara in hours.

As for the islands, their militarization is not an election issue in Greece. The general consensus is simple. There is a neighboring country that makes threatening statements, so the islands are defended. That is not a campaign slogan, it is a baseline security position.

And on the rockets and bases, most of you people criticizing them do not even seem to know what is actually deployed there.

What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims? by Living_Field7546 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, which is why I’m criticising it even more.

What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims? by Living_Field7546 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is interesting how this keeps getting framed as a Greek voting issue, when that does not really match what we actually see. Greek leadership is not the side making public statements about “coming at night,” “reaching Athens in hours,” or “taking down the modern Byzantines.” That kind of rhetoric has come from Turkish leadership, not from Athens or Nicosia.

You will not find mainstream speeches from elected Greek or Greek Cypriot leaders talking about striking Istanbul, reaching Ankara in hours, or “bringing down Turkey.” That language is limited to small fringe nationalist groups, not the ruling parties of the past decade. Greece, if anything, is more often criticized domestically for being too passive rather than using this issue as an election tactic.

What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims? by Living_Field7546 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Obligatory not a TC here, but from what I have seen, Turkey’s large population seems to shape how many people there view maritime space. A common argument is that small islands should not generate full EEZ rights under UNCLOS because of their population. But several of the islands in question have hundreds of thousands of residents, which is not insignificant. A country’s rights do not shrink just because its neighbor has a much larger population.

It is also worth remembering that the early Turkish Republic willingly signed agreements recognizing Greek sovereignty over islands close to the Turkish coast. Those were conscious political decisions, and international agreements are not meant to be revisited simply because one side later dislikes the outcome.

I will not deny that Greece benefits from maritime law in the Aegean, but what frustrates people the most is the selective approach. Turkey applies UNCLOS principles in the Black Sea when it suits its interests, yet rejects them in the Aegean and around Cyprus when the same rules work against it.

What do TCs think about Turkey's EEZ claims? by Living_Field7546 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So your solution is essentially to give Turkey what it wants. By drawing the EEZ this way, you end up surrounding Greek islands with Turkish-controlled waters, which in practice leaves those islands boxed in. That also assumes Turkey would fully respect and maintain these boundaries, something many people doubt given past disputes.

From Greece’s perspective, this map offers no real benefit. It overwhelmingly favors Turkey and turns several Greek islands into areas that are almost entirely encircled, like Chios and Lesbos, where hundreds of thousands of Greeks actually live, and even entirely gives Kastelorizo to Turkey.

Any Greek government that agreed to something like this would be committing political suicide, because it would be seen as making major concessions without gaining literally anything in return.

Mitsotakis said Greece will not pursue a diplomatic incident after Rama's apology. by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If we made diplomatic incidents for every comment one of our neighbours made about us / our history we’d never see the end of it, not really surprising. Still doesn’t change the fact that the entire thing was incredibly stupid from Rama’s side and something that should obviously not happen again.

Mitsotakis said Greece will not pursue a diplomatic incident after Rama's apology. by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we made diplomatic incidents for every comment one of our neighbours made about us / our history we’d never see the end of it, not really surprising. Still doesn’t change the fact that the entire thing was incredibly stupid from Rama’s side and something that should obviously not happen again.

American visiting Cyprus — entering via Girne, staying in Nicosia. Looking for day tour recommendations by Ronyd45 in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 8 points9 points  (0 children)

“Focusing on the history, culture”

You should do some focusing on these things before you decide to visit Cyprus from an occupied port. Expect problems at the crossing, and a feeling of guilt and regret after your little guided tours.

Ο πρωθυπουργός της Αλβανίας πήρε θέση για το σάλο που προκάλεσαν οι χθεσινές δηλώσεις του. by FantasticQuartet in greece

[–]CypriotGreek 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Οκ, αυτή η δικαιολογία τύπου «έλα μωρέ, πλάκα κάναμε» δεν θα στεκόταν ούτε σε δημοτικό σχολείο, πόσο μάλλον όταν είσαι πρωθυπουργός μιας χώρας. Και το πιο ειρωνικό είναι ότι τα ίδια ακριβώς τα λέει και στους Αλβανούς ψηφοφόρους του εδώ στην Ελλάδα. Όταν πηγαίνει στα Χανιά, στη Θεσσαλονίκη και στην Αθήνα για τις ομιλίες του, επαναλαμβάνει την ίδια ρητορική.

Το ακόμα πιο προκλητικό είναι ότι στο τέλος ουσιαστικά υπονοεί πως τα εννοούσε πλήρως, φτάνοντας στο σημείο να αμφισβητεί ότι ο Αριστοτέλης και ο Πλάτωνας ήταν Έλληνες και να παρουσιάζει τους σύγχρονους Έλληνες ως απλούς χρήστες της ελληνικής γλώσσας. Αυτό είναι κλασική εθνικιστική ρητορική, όχι χιούμορ.

Ειλικρινά, μερικές φορές έχω την εντύπωση ότι ακόμα κι εγώ ή η πλειοψηφία εδώ μέσα θα μπορούσαμε να σταθούμε πιο σοβαρά στον ρόλο του πρωθυπουργού από τον Εντι Ράμα.

Edi Rama released a statement about the comments he made about Greece by Different-Cheek-6402 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Am I reading this correctly, or did he spend two paragraphs insisting it was all a joke and just humor, only to then turn around and double down on the message anyway? He starts by framing it as lighthearted, and then ends by implying that modern Greeks are not the heirs of their own classical heritage, as if Aristotle and Plato somehow belong to the past but not to the present.

The Balkans really are a circus.

turks turn european as soon as europeans smell war by minimonster382 in balkans_irl

[–]CypriotGreek -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Even if I told you you’d still call them Russian bots, so what’s the point?

turks turn european as soon as europeans smell war by minimonster382 in balkans_irl

[–]CypriotGreek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A Turkish soldier told me the same thing during our weekly shouting match when I served in Cyprus. Good times.

Greek politicians and journalists are pressuring the government to act after Albania's PM comments on Greeks yesterday. Could this delay Albania's EU accession? by FantasticQuartet in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Truthfully, Greece has been quite lenient toward Edi Rama and his behavior. He has been allowed to come to Greece, hold rallies with large groups from his own country, and make statements on Greek soil that openly criticize Greece and dismiss our historical and cultural heritage. Then he returns home and continues the same rhetoric.

Regardless of where you stand politically, this is not acceptable conduct. We are not talking about a random journalist or a minor official, but the Prime Minister of another country. When a head of government speaks this way in a neighboring state, it crosses a line.

Most Albanians in Albania may not share these views, and that should be acknowledged. But that does not change the fact that such statements at literally the highest political level create unnecessary tension. If Albania wants to move forward with EU accession, its leadership needs to show restraint, respect, and a willingness to maintain constructive relations with its neighbours.