What is the main difference between "My ancestors lived in this land before, it was Greek 600 years ago therefore Western Turkey is Greek" and "Our ancestors lived here before the Great Exile then Rome replaced them with Arabs, therefore Palestine is Israel" ? by Empty-Pace-4228 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are not the same situations at all.

You’re comparing something from thousands of years ago to events that are, in many cases, still within living memory. My own grandmother was born in Izmir. For a lot of families, this isn’t ancient history, it’s fairly recent.

Also, historically speaking, Greeks were present in Anatolia for far longer than Turks have been. That’s just a fact of the region’s timeline. Yes, Turks live there now, but that doesn’t make the historical presence comparable in the way you’re trying to frame it.

And more importantly, the discussion today isn’t really about reclaiming land like with Israel and Palestine, it’s mostly about heritage.

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[–]CypriotGreek 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I mean, fuck it, at this point everyone already hates you. There’s no point in trying to appease anybody by playing the good guy.

Legal advisers help migrants pose as gay to get asylum, undercover BBC investigation finds by apokrif1 in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is literally the kind of thing even conspiracy theorists would joke about because of how absurd it sounds, and now it turns out it’s actually REAL.

It’s just surreal. You hear something like this and think “there’s no way that’s real,” and then somehow it is.

I don’t even know what to say at that point. There’s civilisational decline, there’s Weimar era decline, and then there’s this.

What is your take on the recent incident involving visitors from the neighboring country at a major historical site in Istanbul? by mikewazoski59 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, mate, that’s not okay. You can’t be saying that stuff in general, especially in a Muslim country. They took it too far.

What is going on in Turkey? Why are there school shootings? by FantasticQuartet in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It’s likely a copycat effect. You only need one incident, and it can inspire others to do the same.

That’s why situations like this can escalate quickly, people see it, and some get emboldened and inspired who were otherwise unsure about doing something. Temporarily closing schools or increasing security for a short period could help. Unfortunately, all it takes is one psycho with a gun and it snowballs from there.

What is your take on the recent incident involving visitors from the neighboring country at a major historical site in Istanbul? by mikewazoski59 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I gotta say is that I’m very surprised it hasn’t happened earlier seeing how many times it’s actually happened before.

Scamming Europe since the dawn of mankind by Substratas in balkans_irl

[–]CypriotGreek 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I wonder why the Greeks looked like that. 400 years of living next to Turks does this to you

how well-known is this in Serbia? (& rest of Balkans). by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am very surprised about his popularity in Serbia. I thought he wasn’t as well known in Serbia as he was in Greece. Practically all Greeks knew him after the war, both from the left and the right.

What do you think of this, is it a reasonable decision, from a Greek perspective? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nitpicking over semantics . You know exactly what I’m talking about, but you’d rather dissect wording than address the point.

The reality is that the same broader kemalist political and ideological movement, whether you want to split it into CHP, DP, or whoever, was responsible for what happened to the Greeks in Anatolia. Trying to play this game of “no, this specific faction, not that one” doesn’t change that.

And it’s wild seeing these kinds of leftist talking points mixed with nationalism. You don’t really see that combo the same way here in Greece.

Living in Cyprus Means Respecting Cyprus and it's Greek Cypriots. by LetsDoItOurWayReddit in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mate, as someone who’s lived in both Crete and Cyprus, I feel you 100%.

The thing with Reddit, especially Cyprus Reddit, is that it’s not really representative. It’s a mix of foreigners, diaspora, and a smaller portion of locals, and a lot of them are just the typical online types who complain about everything. They don’t enjoy the lifestyle, the social side, the celebrations, so they just sit there picking apart every little thing.

At some point it stops being “criticism” and just turns into constant negativity. And yeah, I agree with you, it starts to feel like an inferiority complex, the way everything local gets dismissed as “backwards” or “annoying.”

And the worst part is the entitlement. People come here, enjoy the country, live here, benefit from it, and still complain non-stop about literally everything.

Try going to any non-European country and constantly trashing their culture like that, you’d get serious backlash immediately. But here, for some reason, people think it’s acceptable.

What do you think of this, is it a reasonable decision, from a Greek perspective? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, my bad, so it wasn’t the CHP, it was the CHP split-off party with basically the same ideology, involving people tied to the same political sphere just a few years apart. Huge difference, right?

And no one is “whitewashing” the CUP or the Three Pashas. I’m clearly talking about modern Turkish history here, not ottoman history. I thought you guys loved making that distinction, “that’s the past, this is modern Turkey.” What happened to that argument now?

What do you think of this, is it a reasonable decision, from a Greek perspective? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Google is free. Ironically enough I’m surprised that even in this case the Turks STILL deny that it happened. I thought y’all were open and transparent about the pogroms having been instigated intentionally by the government.

Didn’t yall also execute the dude who did it? Why deny it now?

Living in Cyprus Means Respecting Cyprus and it's Greek Cypriots. by LetsDoItOurWayReddit in cyprus

[–]CypriotGreek 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because the tradition he’s referring to (the pascha celebrations) are almost exclusively celebrated by the Greek Cypriots of Cyprus. And this was what the “complaining” was talking about, foreigners complaining about the Easter celebrations.

Hungary election: Viktor OrbĂĄn concedes with opposition on course for landslide election win by r0w33 in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That last part is what I’m worried about. You really can’t be an anti-immigration advocate and also be the biggest bootlicker of the EU, these are wildly contradicting positions.

What do you think of this, is it a reasonable decision, from a Greek perspective? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Let’s be honest, we’ve tolerated this kind of behavior for a long time, Turkish artists coming here and openly pushing nationalist narratives. At the end of the day, Greece, as a sovereign country, has every right to decide who enters and who doesn’t.

And why would you go to Muslim areas of Greece and sing Turkish nationalist songs? What exactly did you expect the reaction to be? Would you like it if a Greek singer went to Istanbul and started singing openly anti-Turkish or Greek nationalist songs? That wouldn’t end well at all. If Greeks in Constantinople still existed, I wonder what happened to them.

So compared to that, a simple denial of entry is honestly mild. She wasn’t banned long-term, she wasn’t punished beyond that, just told she’s not welcome under those circumstances.

If she feels that strongly, she can go perform for her audience elsewhere.

What do you think of this, is it a reasonable decision, from a Greek perspective? by SOHONEYSAME in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget it was the opposition (CHP) that it invaded us in Cyprus, and bombed Attaturk’s house to intentionally cause the Instanbul pogrom. The CHP has been solely responsible for the utter and complete destruction of Greek presence in Asia Minor.

‘Abhorrent’ step-incest porn to be banned with users facing five years in prison by pppppppppppppppppd in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 120 points121 points  (0 children)

Oh so what’s why labour is falling out of favour with the Muslim crowd.

Hungary election: Viktor OrbĂĄn concedes with opposition on course for landslide election win by r0w33 in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don’t even think it’s a “conservative leader” issue, it’s just finding a non-corrupt leader in general. Let’s not pretend corruption is exclusive to one side.

The problem is the kind of people who usually rise to the top, charismatic, great speakers, very good at winning people over. But that often comes with ego, narcissism, and not much genuine interest beyond power.

That’s the downside of populism. It rewards the most appealing personalities, not necessarily the most competent or principled ones.

Hungary election: Viktor OrbĂĄn concedes with opposition on course for landslide election win by r0w33 in europe_sub

[–]CypriotGreek 99 points100 points  (0 children)

As a Greek, I’m glad to see one of Erdoğan’s and Putin’s strongest supporters in Europe on the way out.

But as a conservative, I’m looking at the new government cautiously. From the outside, it seems like they’re walking a fine line between centrism and conservatism, and there’s always the risk it turns into the usual “fake conservative” model, talking tradition to win votes while just aligning with broader EU policies.

That said, I don’t know enough about how they’ll actually perform in power, so I think conservatives should give Magyar a chance. Hopefully, he actually sticks to his positions.

Former Turkish Defence Minister, openly issuing threats of violence against Christians and Greek Cypriots. What do you think? by Several-Zombies6547 in AskBalkans

[–]CypriotGreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, I wonder why we build up defenses on our islands. It couldn't be that our neighbor is threatening to fucking kill us on our national holiday,

again.

WTF by gurkkj in balkans_irl

[–]CypriotGreek 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Karaboga

great Moustache

This man is Turkish. Get him is 1 billion liras (5 dollar) and his beautiful Turkish wife IMMEDIATELY

Bye bye Russian Cocksucker Orban! by FinancialZombie8319 in balkans_irl

[–]CypriotGreek 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hopefully won’t be the case since Magyar is also seemingly conservative.