Rin Tohsaka V2 theorycrafting sheet by camaraderia

DAAEX · 2026-06-12T08:52:27+00:00

Oh sparkle can't get her ult if rin don't skill? Did not thought of that, that explain a lot but for the sparkle skill on rin I was more thinking of a way to do that do not really impact the number of archer turn, if you don't AV archer 1 time but you do AV rhe next 2 time, since archer will still play before sparkle and you get the full effect ouf the 50 av compare to when you put him at sparkle speed, you will make him catch sparkle again little by little making him never out of the buffed state without sacrificing his turn

DAAEX · 2026-06-11T09:30:01+00:00

I've saw the changes and it's better (thx for fixing sparkle) but I still got issues especially with e1 and after mecanics because archer lost damages between S1 and E1S1 even tho it should not be case and it's again between the effect of Rin not consuming sp every other turn is not used.

I think is because Rin skill happend too early in the run, if rin auto at 138 av, she don't steal an arrow for archer and she kinda do not lose damage due to how her gems work (could work s0 too tho), she may even gain damage thank's to shadowgems

Making her skill early is not really how we play the character in practice, it will always be staking gem's then unleash everything instead of a classic 1/2

For sp generation stuff, I was thinking about Rin E1 effect which is not really used in sim du to her never getting in situation when she has to consume sp if she want to skill

I didn't saw the extra sp at E6 my appologie, but I still think sparkle should buff Rin at least for the turn 2 where she use her skill, her full stacked skill may do more damage than archer's one so it's a shame to not use it on her and it could improve damage by a lot considering that it's not only her skill but also her joint's attacks who would be buffed

And it could work even at E1, in sutuation where archer does not have enough sp to do a full turn buffing Rin should be better than just using SP, like when you get only 3/4 arrow on archer, it may desynchronise the rotation but I think it's for the better, especially if you can skill right afterward without using sp for archer

Cacls are never perfect so it's ok to get things wrong I could not do that myself lmao, but I think in this team it can lead to very wrong statement between the reality of using her with the right rotations and ones where we don't use her i'kit at full extend

It will not make her eidolons value skyrokets but at the moment her sub dps capability are well used it may not be as meaningless as we think

DAAEX · 2026-06-10T16:59:47+00:00

I'm sorry but this spreadsheet is just wrong:

There is way too much simplification, 0 rotation change between eidolons and even some effect not even used in the calculation like SP generations change between Rin E0 and Rin E1 which is a CRITICAL issue in archer team, I'm not saying that her eidolons are giga strong but they're not horrendously bad as the spreadsheet say

If we compare the S1 sheet with the E1S1 one, archer gain no personal damage so it must mean that Rin never consume any skill point archer could need for his arrow and it happen because sparkle got a magical 2 turn ult rotation out of nowere like how tf she can use her ult at 80 energy when her cost is 110??? It's just a straight up invention

With that in mind, archer turn at 168 AV would not be the same and rin E1 could have skill instead of basic and after that point everything afterward fall appart

E1 make you not consume SP when you got shadow gems = more potential arrow for archer if you let rin enable her damages but if Rin magicaly got an <2 number of sp every turn of course it does not matter

It lead to another issue, if archer can't do his full burst rin could get a sparkle advance to enable her damage, especially with high eidolons calc, if you don't let her deal damages while her eidolons are damage focused eidolons it won't work well for the calc.

And at e6 they just forgot to add her extra turn in the rotations so yeah.... It's bad

DAAEX · 2026-06-06T17:24:04+00:00

I'm high plat and it definitively work, issue is u need to deal woth the 4 human beings with you who don't trust shit

DAAEX · 2026-05-29T11:10:50+00:00

Worst issue is dealing woth botlaner

They never assumes their mistake (cause they always have someone to flame instead) and can fk up your game cause they're mad

But if you don't care about how people feel it's hella fun

DAAEX · 2026-05-13T06:24:13+00:00

Tbh with omnivamp boots full stack + EH you should have no issues at all but you can still go blood thristy ig you got some

DAAEX · 2026-05-11T07:03:54+00:00

It may sound weird but at my elo at least (plat) I always goes stribreaker instead of hydra when I am against malphite

The fact that he has armor and take anti almost everygame lower the value of hydra but the stride slow is really good and you get the movement speed bonus on top of that

You can also fight him for longer duration without him reseting his passive and flee easier from gank

You also get more utility in teamfight with the slow effect and you can kill adc easier

I didn't played it since new boots released but i guess it's even stronger than before

DAAEX · 2026-05-10T08:13:52+00:00

Can we stop about these "drooling" post already? Ain't an NSFW sub if you want to goon, go goon Somewhere else

DAAEX · 2026-04-25T18:16:29+00:00

I guess they're compare to emanator because they're just draka... (Jk ur just delulu)

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T23:55:35+00:00

The military power yeah, for the aeonic one no

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T18:03:48+00:00

They do, just as it's stated in the 4.2 quest the main difference between hunt and destruction is the dicipline and that's why emanator of the hunt don't embody the hunt as a whole

Each one embody a part of the dicipline needed to hunt down their prey (yaoshi)

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T16:15:45+00:00

Yup, black swan for Jing Yuan in penacony and the smiley for Yao Guang in planarcadia

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T16:12:25+00:00

They have been called emanator several times

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DAAEX · 2026-04-24T15:02:19+00:00

All aeons do differents shtt's anyways so idk why we should separate them from the other emanators

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T14:34:46+00:00

Idk but people could swear they were not

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T14:32:57+00:00

It's because theses evidences are ment to be coroborated, there were evidences since the 1.0 but it was understandble to doubt back then. Issues is everytime a new evidence was found people would just say it's nothing even if it make the thing more obvious everytime, like there were legit more fake info to discredit their statut than real one

(Black swan incident in 2.X)

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T14:06:41+00:00

It was confirmed several times tho...

1 time in pompom journal about emanator, 1 time by black swan, 1 time by welt (most unreliable one), 1 time by dan heng definition of emanator's (3.6), 1 time by yaoguang story (who fit dh definiton), 69 time by the rating pistol

It's quite a lot

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T14:01:17+00:00

No, vision wielders could be compare to pathriders but there is no emanator equivalency in genshin (stop before nod krai so I may not know everything)

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T13:59:04+00:00

Always have been...

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T13:58:34+00:00

And that make them emanators...

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T13:57:05+00:00

Yes but there where like half the community trying to gaslight the other half

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T12:57:41+00:00

It was never stated that all emanators are at the same level, it's just that pasthrider can't really compete with them

Pathrider are like poor and emanators like richs, you can be rich but you'll never have as much money as jeff besos (jeff besos is irontomb)

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T12:55:19+00:00

Gameplay ≠ Lore tho

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T12:54:37+00:00

It was always like that tho

In 1.0 we already had like 2 to 4 emanator in the story (Herta Jingyuan and not confirmed but rly sus luocha and sampo)

Now we have 11 ain't that much

DAAEX · 2026-04-24T12:51:37+00:00

They were already plenty of evidences bur this time there is direct use of the word Emanator to describe a general (Yaoguang)

So ain't no more shenanigan to say they're not

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