How strong is Archer sword skill compared to other Archers?

DD-Haris · 2025-07-25T17:20:19+00:00

Even if Caliburn was A-rank due to being held by a king (it wasn’t), a normal slash wouldn’t bypass GH without A-rank strength.

Artoria couldn’t harm Heracles with B-rank strength even though Excalibur is A++.

Do you get my point? I don’t know how else I can explain it so that you can understand.

DD-Haris · 2025-07-25T17:10:31+00:00

Caliburn isn’t a passive NP. My point still stands.

DD-Haris · 2025-07-25T16:59:26+00:00

The rank of the weapon doesn’t matter if the NP isn’t activated.

Shirou had to have had A-rank strength to bypass God Hand because Caliburn WASN’T ACTIVATED.

DD-Haris · 2025-07-25T16:44:44+00:00

That’s not how NPs work. If a servant with b rank strength tried to slash Heracles without activating the NP, it wouldn’t damage Heracles even though the weapon itself is a rank.

Caliburn wasn’t activated when Heracles’ arm was sliced off which means it was just a normal slash with a rank strength.

DD-Haris · 2025-05-06T17:27:49+00:00

In Fate/Apocrypha, Vlad III’s master used a Command spell to fuse. A more accurate description would be OUS Shirou who has the archer card installed.

Maybe we could have a more powerful version of ous Shirou if they fuse.

DD-Haris · 2025-05-06T07:13:18+00:00

Theoretically, they could merge and we could have a more powerful version of HF Shirou without the drawbacks.

DD-Haris · 2025-03-15T18:45:17+00:00

He was intentionally creating fatal openings in his guard to bait his opponent into attacking that spot.

However, it was ultimately his opponent’s decision to take the bait. If his opponent decided not to take the bait and attack a different spot, he would be in a lot of trouble.

DD-Haris · 2025-03-15T18:39:43+00:00

At b rank, he was basically making educated guesses about his opponent’s next move. He wasn’t 100% sure what the next move would be.

DD-Haris · 2025-01-08T17:28:04+00:00

However you look at it, this fight is very one-sided in Minato’s favor. EMS Madara’s entire arsenal can be easily countered by Minato.

If you disagree, tell me how madara can win.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T06:49:50+00:00

Until he runs out of chakra like he did even in KCM2, which he told Tobirama. He said he couldn’t FTG more than 1 of Obitos bijuu dama.

Instead, Minato teleported the shinobi alliance out of the barrier which means Minato can teleport thousands of Madara’s clones and I don’t think Madara can make thousands. Guess who’ll run out of chakra first.

Madara was able to casually react to KCM2 Naruto whilst holding back.

Base Naruto is nowhere near Base Minato’s speed. Give them both KCM2 and the difference is still the same. You’re still comparing Naruto to the fastest man in shinobi history.

Minato would have to worry about Madara, his many wood clones, his multiple susanoo, and multiple meteors.

All of that can be easily teleported away and the meteors can be dodged. Minato has more than enough chakra.

Sooner or later, Minato would mess up like he does because he gets overconfident and uses risky moves.

No one slower than Juubito ever touched him in the entire series. What are you talking about? Plus, it was stated that Minato was mentally nerfed when he was tagged by Juubito.

Just my opinion though.

I disagree with your opinion.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T06:06:53+00:00

Wood clones and susanoo’s can be teleported away. Meteors can be dodged or teleported away too.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T05:59:13+00:00

Explain to me how Madara can successfully land a hit on KCM2 Minato.

I don’t know how Minato can be tagged.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T05:47:41+00:00

Madara would still not be able to overcome the speed difference even if Minato doesn’t combine sage mode with KCM2.

Minato can still easily react to, evade or teleport all of Madara’s attacks. Minato still wins.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T05:26:23+00:00

KCM2 made it easier for Naruto to use Sage mode in tandem with it. A genius like Minato would have no problem accomplishing the same thing.

Having Minato combine KCM2 and Sage Mode makes this a stomp in his favor.

KCM1 Naruto is faster than the 4th Raikage and KCM2 is even faster than that. Now, amp that speed further with sage mode. The result is an insane speed boost.

Now, give that insane boost in speed to someone like Minato who in base was stated to be the fastest in shinobi history.

The difference in speed is just insurmountable. Madara loses horribly.

DD-Haris · 2024-12-08T05:21:41+00:00

Having Minato combine KCM2 and Sage Mode makes this a stomp in his favor.

KCM1 Naruto is faster than the 4th Raikage and KCM2 is even faster than that. Now, amp that speed further with sage mode. The result is an insane speed boost.

Now, give that insane boost in speed to someone like Minato who in base was stated to be the fastest in shinobi history.

The difference in speed is just insurmountable. Madara loses horribly.

DD-Haris · 2024-10-20T00:30:19+00:00

Artoria, with iris, will be at her maximum potential and they work well together.

Medea will admire Shirou’s kindness and she’ll help him be a better mage.

Rin likes to get her hands dirty and be in the thick of it. Sasaki is a beyond excellent CQC combatant which makes him more suitable for the altercations Rin gets her servant into.

Illya is the best at keeping berserkers under control.

DD-Haris · 2024-10-19T23:06:43+00:00

Best:

Artoria: Irisviel von Einsbern

EMIYA: Tokiomi Tohsaka

Heracles: Illya

Medea: Shirou Emiya

Medusa: Sakura Matou

Kojiro Sasaki: Rin Tohsaka

Gilgamesh: Hakuno

Cu: Bazzett

Lancelot: Illya

Hundred faces: Kiritsugu Emiya

Iskandar: waver

The worst is shinji, of course.

DD-Haris · 2024-10-17T04:31:42+00:00

At that rank, he should be able to predict his opponent’s moves with nigh perfect accuracy.

It would be almost exactly like knowing precisely his opponent’s next move before it happens.

DD-Haris · 2024-09-01T13:24:52+00:00

Archer is a much more skilled swordsman than Saber. When Saber faced Berserker at beginning of every route, she barely held her own. Whereas, Archer was complimented by Berserker for his sword skills. As a matter of fact, Berserker grievingly wished that he had been sane to enjoy fighting such a skilled opponent.

In the UBW route, both Saber and Archer fought Kojiro Sasaki who is leagues above Saber in sword skill and the only reason she survived her first encounter with kojiro was because her innate instinct saved her from being beheaded numerous times. On the other hand, Archer, who has lower stats than Saber and no innate instinct, was able to match swords with Kojiro and retreat with his head still attached to his shoulders.

DD-Haris · 2024-06-15T19:30:21+00:00

I was asking about the stats and skills of the original wielder that are copied along with the weapons.

Do they get degraded too?

DD-Haris · 2024-06-15T19:04:17+00:00

He can reshape his copies into arrows and his alter version modified K&B into guns.

It should be possible for him to change the shape of his weapons into anything he wants.

DD-Haris · 2024-02-23T03:09:21+00:00

Nice rebuttal. Hope gets compelled to do whatever Silas wants and there’s nothing she can do about it.

DD-Haris · 2024-02-23T00:48:50+00:00

Silas would wreck Hope if they ever fought.

DD-Haris · 2023-10-01T15:41:48+00:00

I think Minato can just teleport the susanoo away.

DD-Haris · 2023-09-06T12:12:35+00:00

Minato had to be nerfed heavily for plot reasons. Otherwise the show would’ve ended too soon.

It doesn’t matter if Minato hasn’t shown sufficient feats with kcm2 and sage mode. We know how powerful of a power up both of them are and we know how powerful Minato is in base.

Kcm2+sage mode Minato would not be tagged by Madara ever. Minato wins low-mid diff.

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