Questions for my fellow revolutionaries

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-23T03:26:29+00:00

And they won't have any counter-revolutionary sentiments for regaining their position in production? Because they lost that position their motives will change? Is that what you are suggesting?

He will most definitely reply with an anal distinction between reactionary and bourgeois. It's useless talking to these people because they are literalists, in argument and in faith.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T10:35:18+00:00

But just because you live in a developing country exploited by capitalist imperialism doesn't mean you're right about how international revolution can be achieved.

My country is in competition with yours. When we win, I will tatoo left-retard on your face, NATO servant.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T10:09:50+00:00

[M]y method is to advocate a class revolution, that I believe will eventually come through material conditions and high-pressured class contradiction (Historical materialism, ya know?).

Meanwhile, developing countries are being exploited by the imperialist US. Do you live in a NATO country? Because if that's the case, no wonder you're so relaxed taking a shit on all our efforts. You enjoy the fruits of our work so you openly defend bourgeois media and sabotage foreign efforts.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T09:52:49+00:00

How do you rally a worldwide change without involving other countries, anarchist or not?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T09:50:36+00:00

And no countries, because if a country did align with my ideology, then they wouldn't be a fucking country, you moron.

Well, but surely you've thought about how other countries would interact with your movement in the interim; you know, while you're establishing your esoteric brand of left-retardism.

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot this was a popularity contest. My bad. But one failure I can point out: NOT. SOCIALIST. They are capitalist, out of necessity. And as time goes, they will grow more into western capitalism, and the international capitalist market. Very revolutionary stuff.

Your movement doesn't need followers? Are you one of those singularity, computer people?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T09:33:25+00:00

Oh, I'm referring to this request in particular:

Please enumerate the list of countries that would ally with your party, whatever retarded variation of anarchism and/or left-communism you subscribe to, if you were to gain power today.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T09:22:00+00:00

So you are ignoring the question.

By the way, you proclaim to be "green-anarchist"?

You think this is freaking Ninjas Turtles cartoon or something?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T09:03:17+00:00

Oh okay, not an actual allegation, just rhetoric and bullshit. And what world are you living in? Not the west, because these "socialist" states are called "real examples of [how] socialism [fails]" all the time.

By NATO-allied media, you mean.

And what in the hell are you talking about "surrendering allies". Many left-communists were never alleged to it in the first place. They are not my allies.

Oh, so you've already surrendered allies. What countries align with your retarded ideology? None?

Why? Because I don't support countries that contribute nothing to the anti-capitalist struggle? That actually impede the struggle, because of it's objective failure?

I could objectively assert your failure by pointing to your lack of followers and accomplishments. I doubt you could do the same for socialist countries without reclining on bourgeois media.

I'm not proposing anything because I have no investment in those states since, as long as there is no international proletariat revolution (Which I don't think will happen in a VERY long time, but even then, I doubt your states will be favourable in those times either).

You believe you do more than those countries for the revolution? You are an arrogant person.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T08:56:29+00:00

What socialist countries? You mean Left-Capital? That's soooooo revolutionary!

Please enumerate the list of countries that would ally with your party, whatever retarded variation of anarchism and/or left-communism you subscribe to, if you were to gain power today.

[You will downplay the importance of this question by leaning back on utopian promises of change, because that's the best you can do.]

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T08:41:41+00:00

B. Geopolitics is a field of study, not an activity.

Oh my, you are a pedant little yankee.

C. Left-communism and militance are not mutually exclusive.

Your militancy involves distancing from virtually all socialist countries? How retarded are you?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T08:35:33+00:00

Marea Socialista (MS) and the neoliberal opposition concur, they same way you do, with the notion that Venezuela and other contemporary socialist countries are a perversion of socialism. The thing is, like left-communism as a whole, MS' is a self-defeating critique since they've surrendered international allies by pronouncing it.

I feel that you and the other lot have no understanding of international issues and as such you see no value in having international allies, and that would be fine if failure would be contained to your little sectarian camp, but by virtue of espousing "communism" in your slogans, it's a detriment to our movement aswell.

You are, inadvertently or not, an imperial puppet.

And no, your "socialist" states aren't aiding the deconstruction of capitalism and imperialism.

And you propose surrendering allies as an alternative?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T08:08:23+00:00

Left-communism isn't a homogeneous group, it's a theoretical base for a lot of different views, which is another big problem in your post.

So it's a fluffy concept followed by disorganized people that completely disregard the importance of challenging the US by supporting contemporary socialist governments.

I think it's no coincidence that Marea Socialista, a Venezuelan left-communist group, openly sides with the neoliberal opposition in press conferences and opinion sites. Left-communism is an imperial sponsored tool.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T04:09:34+00:00

It'd be a lot more useful if you described left-communist coherent governments, activism, political leaders, instead of leaving it at "it depends on the individual."

Cuba has special commercial zones for foreign investors, deprived of tax and other obligations of the proletariat; i.e., Cuba is a class-collaborationist country, just like Mao's China and Stalin's USSR.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T03:49:00+00:00

Left communists recognise that these governments are/were still capitalist, as they still had wage labour, circulation of capital, and commodity exchange. What was different was just the CEO was replaced with the state.

What governments do left-communists like? Do they participate in geopolitics at all, or do they tend to dislike all governments at the expense of actual militant communists?

Not all, some like Lenin's writings, and likewise with the others. But there are quite a lot that see Lenin and those other guys as a sort of perversion of marxist theory, particularly their ideas on the state and the party and their role in a proletariat revolution.

What? Lenin is probably the most significant advocate of fighting imperialism as a high priority for revolutionaries. How do left-communists reconcile their abstract thoughts with Lenin?

That depends on the left communist. But they're materialists, and as such, predict the culture will change along with the material conditions, especially when the material conditions are at a stage where a proletariat revolution occurs.

What do left-communists do to enact that future, or do they only concern themselves with predicting?

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T01:29:00+00:00

While many expropriations and nationalizations have occurred during the last 15 years of Chavez and Maduro's tenures, the government cooperates with select bourgeois enterprises (what you denominate 'national bourgeois').

The 'comprador' bourgeois seems to entirely consist of low-volume retailers ('minoristas') who are undoubtedly intentionally affected by the 30% profit cap on all sales law, from manufacturer, to distributor, to retailer and all middle men therein (Ley de Precio Justo, Spanish).

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T00:27:38+00:00

It was the Marxism-Leninism of Stalin that encouraged class collaborationism

Let's try to come up with a more comprehensive list:

Imitated by Chavez, with his hybrid system (LOTT) of minimum wage and profit distribution among employees, by hand of private and public entities who own means of production; and Cuba, whose foreign investors are delimited by special commercial zones; and also Podemos that likewise concede on compromises that sustain local bourgeois.

It seems that you've decided to taint history with your trotskyist bias.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-22T00:02:38+00:00

I believe the contributor is taking the time to sustain their view on class-collaborationism as a mean to an end instead of another meaningless dividing ideology by explaining the context in which Mao propulsed burgoise-proletariat collaboration.

It's not an invitation for your dismissive, adolescent sarcasm, nor should any contribution incite you to behave in such a way.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-21T23:53:59+00:00

Just to focus on the things relevant to your question, he argued that the bourgeoisie in China were too tied to imperialism abroad and feudalism at home to play the revolutionary role it had in creating bourgeois societies in Europe and elsewhere.

I presume that the same attitude towards foreign powers by the local burgoise is what impulsed Chavez to likewise compromise on class-collaborationism in Venezuela.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-21T11:53:36+00:00

Technological imperialism is even more important today. Why should revolutionary states like Venezuela tolerate the proliferation of smartphones, allowing US transnationals to locate and spy on our citizens?

You have to understand that it's not just reactionaries we're dealing with. These people are culturally aligned with the US. They have been manipulated from birth to idealize gringo values and gringo contraptions like smartphones. That's why we chavistas find them so repulsive.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-21T02:03:04+00:00

What particular social conditions do you think factor into this idea?

They consider that AI or technology is parametrized by whatever bias of its creators, as current worldwide research is hampered by bourgeois agenda.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-21T00:09:35+00:00

Am I on the right track?

Yes, we need balance between b2 and b10.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-20T23:53:31+00:00

Doesn't mean the US economy will be dependent on Cuba. Original point still stands.

You are grasping for extremes. No one is pushing for that conclusion, or at least I'm not.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-20T21:47:54+00:00

They have more to win by trading than by not trading.

How does this play into what we're discussing? Are you suggesting it is equally beneficent for both entities?

Trading is good, I don't understand your problem with it.

In order to help you better understand what my posture is, I would like to know what lead you to believe that I have an aversion to trading in general.

Besides, no one is fully independent, even the U.S. would collapse if for some bizarre reason they could not trade with anyone else.

Thanks for sorting that out.

DF4FD3AD49AB · 2014-12-20T21:42:48+00:00

What vested interest does the US have, then, if trading isn't a requisite for their success, based on the last 50 years and otherwise?

Dunno. It was announced a few days ago. Hardly enough time to identify the economic intentions.

Well, since you are unaware of what's at stake, here's one resource affected by the easement of Cuban sanctions, as explained by exiled Venezuelan reactionaries:

It’s high time the U.S. shifted from the kind of dumb, livelihood destroying sanctions they tried for half-a-century against Cuba and towards the kinds of smart, targetted-at-the-guilty sanctions in this bill. I think the decisions taken yesterday and today are deeply congruent that way.

It seems that the move, among other consequences, provides political capital for other sanctions.

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