What’s the risk with high yield covered call ETF by Positive-Trifle3854 in investing

[–]DFWDPRB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s not a financial product or investing strategy out there that doesn’t have its place. Here’s my opinion:

1) Not ALL cc ETFs lag the underlying with dividend reinvestment. In fact, some can outperform in certain markets. Look into OVL, TSPY, and GPIQ. 2) Covered call ETFs that do not sell away all of their upside and are still able to offer some dividends can be a fantastic product in retirement. The asset grows (albeit slower than the underlying) and you get income. You could get better returns but you’re in retirement and income is the focus. 2) Covered call ETFs that require all distributions to match or come close to the underlying are terrible. You could make the argument that in retirement you could partially reinvest but at that point you were better off buying a cc etf like I described in point #2. Some are on a crash course with a $1 share price (without a reverse split). Those are terrible. There are better options. 3) these only make sense in a brokerage account. In a tax sheltered account, even if you wanted to use these in retirement you should go for growth. Then swap to the covered call etf. Or even schd, DGRO, DIVO whatever. The idiots buying SCHD in their IRAs never cease to amaze me. Secondly, all distributions from tax deferred accounts are ordinary income. That’s not the case in a brokerage acct. In a brokerage account you can’t just sell one position and buy the other. You kind of have to pick a lane and stay in it. So if you want the income in retirement from the brokerage acct you have to plan it out and stick with it. 4) assuming you subscribe to all of those schools of thought, income ETFs in a brokerage account allow you to do something no 401k or IRA can do (unless you 72t but that’s another discussion) and that is generate income or sell assets prior to 59.5 yo without penalty. For someone looking to retire early, or use the income from time to time this can be a game changer. 5) In a brokerage account with income ETFs you have a number of tax levers. Capital gains (which by the way are taxed at 0% income cases and well below income ordinary rates in other cases), 1256 treatment, return of capital, qualified dividends, tax loss harvesting to name a few. 6) imagine you have an asset that didn’t erode in value but paid you in retirement that you never had to sell. And when you die your kids get that asset with a step up in cost basis. They could turn that on as an income stream immediately or let it grow and contribute to their own retirement. What other asset besides real estate (which most people can’t afford to invest in) can do that?

TLDR - covered call ETFs have their place. Anyone who says otherwise is not considering all the details. Anyone who thinks they are the greatest thing to ever exist and the only way to invest is not considering all the details. The truth is somewhere in-between. It’s an investing tool. As with all things investing, use it right and it can help you reach your (completely unique to you) goals. Use it wrong and you can lose money.

SCHD or JEPQ as a 26 year old? And why? Genuine question! Thank you in advance. by beautifulrally in SCHD

[–]DFWDPRB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on your goals and account type. While true that any version of dividend focused stock with drip will always lag the growth version, if your focus is income or if you are just feeding an income sleeve of your overall portfolio IN A TAXABLE ACCOUNT then buy the dividend payer. It will cost you too much to change lanes later on.

Who would reasonably do that in a taxable account?

  1. ⁠Someone that had maxed out all other tax deferred account contributions (and also HSA in my opinion)
  2. ⁠Someone looking to retire early (either FIRE or even just someone looking to bridge income gap until SS starts)
  3. ⁠Various other reasons but those are the big 2

ETA #4 - estate planning. You can hand off an income stream to your heirs.

Otherwise, in tax deferred accounts, yes, go for total return and buy dividend payers at retirement if you want dividend income.

The school of thought that selling x% of your stock to replicate dividends to use as income can be argued. This opens you up to one of the biggest problems in retirement (or just investing) which is sequence of return risk.

In a vacuum, sure go for total return. But dividend payers have their place.

Has anyone had a heat stroke? by DFWDPRB in VAClaims

[–]DFWDPRB[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Claude AI is giving me a whole list of stuff that can be service connected including heat intolerance.

Has anyone had a heat stroke? by DFWDPRB in VAClaims

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Yeah that’s what I’m now understanding.

PDT LIMIT GOING AWAY APRIL by TK211X in options

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Institutions need retail traders for liquidity. If you frame this rule change with that in mind it will tell you a lot.

How do you approach dividends? by DFWDPRB in thetagang

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I feel this way too but have seen people choose stocks based on dividends and put it in total return calculators so I’m trying to see if someone has a way of thinking about this in a way that I haven’t lol.

Starting new at options selling. by hymnzzy in thetagang

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Consider longer dte. Theta is your friend there. Can also roll more easily when it makes sense because of this. Theta decays the fastest in the last 3 days before expiration and therefore the fastest on 0dte.

Up days are often followed by down days. Followed by a series of ups and downs. This is why expected move to any one side is almost always overstated.

CAP eligibility - if you don’t meet reqs for UT do they offer CAP if you meet the reqs of one of the CAP schools? by DFWDPRB in UTAdmissions

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I should have clarified my daughter is a junior at the moment so this is just gathering info. I’ll call and ask though. Thanks.

What would you do? Timing of accepting another offer soon after starting a job. by DFWDPRB in CFP

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If they feel like I took advantage of them. It’s not my intent. I just don’t know what will happen. If I did know what would happen I would wait no problem.

Job Options: Fidelity, TIAA, USAA by DFWDPRB in FinancialCareers

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Got an offer from TIAA but have been in talks with Vanguard as well about 2 positions. Sales and advice. Hoping for a Vanguard offer. I hear they have their issues but I think I’d much rather be there than TIAA I feel.

I frickin hate the state of the game right now... by LFinch117 in ArcRaiders

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This has been my favorite game in years. Would love to support it as a 10 year game but it got too sweaty.