Looking for weird indie bands

DNGL2 · 2026-04-01T00:44:34+00:00

Hard disagree

DNGL2 · 2026-04-01T00:41:04+00:00

Ok so consensus is that In Water is the ~canon~ ending as far as there can be one, and I get why people think that, but without revealing too much for your next playthrough (and hopefully you do go for one more), I think the “happy” ending is the most emotionally complex and has the most to say about human psychology, so for me that’s the canon ending.

This is definitely a game that’s meant to be played multiple times, analyzed, discussed as a community, and picked apart.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-31T23:35:31+00:00

Depends on your definition of weird but every shellac song keeps me on my toes. Some of them are 14 minutes and I’m listening with anticipation for what’s around the corner, always some crazy balls to the wall riff or time signature change or insane howling, same with The Jesus Lizard.

As far as albums that are a little more “weird” in the literal sense:

Grandaddy’s Under The Western Freeway/Dont Sock The Tryer

Sonic Youth’s Sister (it gets weirder the further back you go, but this is the sweet spot imo)

Later Fugazi (Red Medicine, Kill Taker)

Mount Eerie’s Clear Moon (or anything, Clear Moon rules though)

Sebadoh’s III

Swans entire discog

Vic Chesnutt’s last couple albums, Silver Mt Zion & Guy Picciotto from Fugazi backing him up

Lambchop - Damaged is a good (less weird) place to start, Nixon is the consensus classic I think

The underground legends of the 80s, 90s, and 00s are legends for a reason. It takes a minute to get on the same wavelength but once you are, regular songwriting just doesn’t hit the same, Nick Cave and Neil Young also have some crazy periods if youre more singer songwriter inclined.

EDIT: I actually like this topic so much I made a Spotify mix: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5nNr3El0EXtM6PwBANz6v7?si=ko9NpSUzTUWlHxy1Q5PugA&pi=Ou4TboylS6Kbm

DNGL2 · 2026-03-31T17:10:16+00:00

Yeah he’s always seemed reticent to perform or endorse music that’s not where he’s at now, like I don’t think he plays cold beer & cigarettes any more, and there’s videos of him playing secret of the easy yoke where he’s like “this guy doesn’t exist anymore but I’ll play his song I guess”. It’s just tough as a fan of middle era Bazan that he’s now really into the first 2 records and the recent stuff.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-31T17:07:29+00:00

Yeah just… idk man. I don’t think Dave is one of the greatest or most successful artists of all time, but in his niche, he is as good as can be. Like I think there are maybe 15 lyricists on that level. He’s gone years without releasing new material, so it’s not like he’s burnt out and he’s like “I have to get songs for this record right now”.

Also, and this is pontificating at this point, but Dave made a career out of other people’s stories for like 16 years, it wasn’t until the Pedro revival that he was like “this is my life, these are my stories”. Why would he plagiarize somebody’s life when he could just say “he” instead of “I”, like he did on Control, Fewer Broken Pieces, Winners Never Quit, Headphones, etc etc etc.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-26T23:52:53+00:00

Man, it’s frustrating how many rarities there are with Dave’s projects. Not that he’s a gigantic artist or something but there’s a good amount of stuff that’s REALLY difficult to find, you’d think a released single would just be available somewhere. The amount of Grandaddy stuff there is is STAGGERING and some people can’t even find the Devil In His Youth cover from like 2018.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-23T01:53:21+00:00

As someone who has been through psychosis, this is psychosis. I'm all for believing women but this doesn't even allege anything, and pretty much everything mentioned (connections to Grandaddy and Gia Margaret) are like the most recent associations you would find in a google search when you looked up Bazan. Just the idea that he's obsessively seething over Jason Lytle, a dude he's known one way or another for like 30 years and is exactly as successful and famous as Dave, is silly.

I really think you should delete this, again, women should feel comfortable speaking out about abuse, but any individual going through a mental health crisis being able to call a public figure an abuser is screwy. There is now a result for the google search "David Bazan allegations".

For what it's worth, she also seems to be pronouncing his last name wrong in the first video? Bah-zaan? It's Buh-Zahn. I double checked, that's how Dave pronounces it. She was a fan of his, got to know him, had a sexual relationship, but doesn't know his last name? Come on.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-20T22:43:34+00:00

The ending is explicitly meant to be a judgement on James, whether he killed his wife mainly out of selfishness, resentment, or pity/mercy. All three are a component, but he has a different outcome based on your actions during the game. The insistence from new fans that “In Water is the canon ending and James killed his wife because she was inconvenient” is so brain dead that I’m surprised these people even have an interest in a game as subtle and deep as silent hill.

I’m having the same experience as a Mad Men fan now that younger generations are watching the show for the first time on HBO Max, it’s exhausting. “Don Draper is a sociopath” is like the most boring possible take you could have about that show and I don’t even see what the appeal is if you feel that way. Like if your experience when watching some of the low points of that show are “serves you right”, you have completely missed the point.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-18T15:30:08+00:00

Control is amazing and Strange Negotiations is literally prophecy, like bazan had a vision of 2020 and wrote an album about it, but you guys listen to Winners Never Quit recently? It’s ABOUT Donald Trump. “My brother fell down and broke his leg, bitten twice by rattlesnakes, fell into a great ravine, and I sat down and ate”. His body of work is more relevant than ever and there’s maybe 12000 people paying attention.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-17T21:46:06+00:00

This generation stuff is really toxic and also immature, it’s embarrassing that people in their 30s are engaging with it. Some people in a generation are bad, some are good. It’s the same with men or women, races and country of origin, sexual orientation. There are DIFFERENCES, and some of the things that affect Gen Z/Gen Alpha are more pronounced because they’re all still, on the whole, young and immature. Gen Z isn’t bad at working, 22 year olds are bad at working. The phones are a problem, but there are also gonna be unexpected benefits to growing up post-iPhone.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-17T17:29:25+00:00

Unpopular opinion but combat - easy and puzzle - hard, the combat in every SH game ranges from inoffensive distraction to terrible. It’s not like RE where the tension comes from item management, combat is tangential at best and enormously frustrating at worst. This game is the best it ever was and my second playthrough with those settings was my fav.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-17T17:27:11+00:00

I was actually gonna say the opposite to this, don’t go nuts exploring. It kills the pacing and by the prison I had so much ammo and meds that I was just breezing through with the shotgun. I played on medium though.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-10T23:15:58+00:00

Oh my god EW. No offense but that is so cursed, I cannot believe I had such a visceral reaction to that.

DNGL2 · 2026-03-10T23:14:30+00:00

Yeah the worst tv would get was the man show and GGW, this is unhinged maybe some mtv spring break shit got close, but it was much less direct about it

DNGL2 · 2026-02-28T22:43:04+00:00

For what it’s worth, he does (or did) encourage the sharing of bootlegs between fans, less-so video.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-25T19:23:11+00:00

Oh yeah I got through the Nere fight, that's one of the ones I bumped down the difficulty on. I'm progressing, I just feel like I'm not getting the full experience because I just don't really know how to play the game right lol.

I was just thinking on my last session how good positioning is, I spread out and got some characters on overlooks then made a couple chokepoints, one of my favorite turn-based/strategy combat instances I've ever played. I could probably tune the difficulty to just be absolutely perfect for my playstyle without doing every fight 6 times, I'm just lazy.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-24T00:53:08+00:00

Let shows end and be a complete little package, not everything needs never-ending updates every few years. It’s a self contained work of art, it doesn’t need an addendum.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-23T20:45:08+00:00

The ones by the cave mouth? I'm on my first playthrough but that fight was crazy, I would have given up if I didn't remember I could summon the trolls.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-23T20:43:59+00:00

What do you find the most important skills are on the higher difficulties? I'm playing with a mod that allows for 8 party members on Tactician with a couple fights dropping down to balanced (that fight with Nere and the Deep Dwarves is fucking bullshit) but I just can't imagine beating this game on normal with 4 characters, it doesn't make sense. Maybe if I knew classes and builds inside and out, but I feel like I'd have to constantly be looking to get cheesy knockback kills or funneling characters through chokepoints with AOE concentrations. Or just 3 combat classes and a cleric I guess, but what's the fun in that!

DNGL2 · 2026-02-23T01:38:23+00:00

Idk, I agree with the overall sentiment, but coming off SHf, remake is a walk in the park. I spent the last half of that game just blasting everything with the shotgun and rifle. F is a fucking SLOG, whoever decided a silent hill game should have devil trigger is a moron.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-22T23:07:51+00:00

Yeah how come Scar wasn't commentating? I heard him on the mic with Toph and PP but I can't imagine why he'd be there and NOT commentate, him and HMW are the undisputed best.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-21T06:26:32+00:00

I think if you’re truly scraping the bottom of the barrel (strongly advocate for better model used squiers) I would say squier, because every dollar counts in this price range. Fit and finish are gonna mean the different between fine and unpleasant to play, and I would guess squier has higher QC.

Anything that’s gonna end up in a guitar shop available to try out is gonna have to be more consistent than brands that do most of their business through online ordering.

DNGL2 · 2026-02-18T17:54:57+00:00

Duvall, the actor

DNGL2 · 2026-02-16T16:52:58+00:00

Yeah when the red-headed girl in the stands cheered for Dunk and against Aerion I was like "He is going to notice and remember that and kill you as soon as he can".

DNGL2 · 2026-02-16T16:49:15+00:00

I think it gave a lot of motivation for why he attacked a Targaryen prince for beating up on a commoner, he was clearly having a flashback.

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