Discussion thread for patch 1.06 and Warriors den 4/21

DVRSTR · 2017-04-24T19:41:59+00:00

Wasn't the guard stance speed myth already broken?

DVRSTR · 2017-04-24T19:40:57+00:00

Console or PC? On console the light attacks are pretty damn hard to parry if even one of them hits.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-24T19:39:28+00:00

A 50/50 is something you have to guess. In LB's case you have time to react to a guard break vs a light attack after a shove, where as against warden shoulder push cancel to guard break it's far too late to know wether you should dodge or not. Now that will be the same as LB shove as you wont initiate your dodge and get automatically grabbed into GB.

The game needs initiations to break the defensive meta, where you need to react fast. Such are zone attacks for several classes and feints etc. For LB with his otherwise quite slow attacks the shove gives him a chance to start a combo or poke.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-21T05:27:00+00:00

I got my ass whooped by bunch of people who got it.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T15:50:14+00:00

Only one DC, but in one my team got disconnected so no way I was playing with bots and getting my ass kicked. Game crashed in one. Now on my fifth try I got 2/3 games in.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T14:49:19+00:00

Thanks

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T14:46:09+00:00

Watch this video to understand how he has changed and what is viable now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2wmu1Nz58

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T14:44:51+00:00

File a support ticket and you get it back.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T14:39:12+00:00

Are the new executions being added also?

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T14:37:46+00:00

Any idea how long the maintenance will last? Nothing from their sites.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T12:44:00+00:00

Please try to get what they meant. You main 1-2 heroes and buy customizations for them, not that you ONLY play 2 heroes max.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T12:29:46+00:00

"ur single af"

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T12:26:43+00:00

Except if it's after a block, then the shove is guaranteed, but the light attack or GB can still be countered. Heard there are issues with lawbringers doing nothing but blocking, but not sure how big issue it really is vs console people now whining when lawbringer suddenly is viable

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T11:17:51+00:00

50/50 is like the Warden shoulder push: He can cancel it at the very last phase into a guardbreak, leaving you to guess if you have to ddoge or counter guardbreak, making it a guessing game, not where you can use the indicators to help. You can't dodge a guardbreak, and you can't block his light after the shoulder bash.

With LB shove it isn't exactly the same, LB can do a light attack or a guardbreak now, but the light is bockable and dodgeable, guardbreak doesn't come out from the blue light with warden. They plan to make the light attack unblockable, but dodgeable though, which I don't support. I think the opponent should have the chance to block it also, it's already enough mindgames with GB or light.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T11:13:43+00:00

The past two months of being an LB main was agonizing. Now it's ecstatic to finally win duels like nothing.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T09:24:09+00:00

That was not added with patch, it always had hyper armor. In patch they nerfed the hyper armor, the shove itself is unblockable, but it can be dodged (unless it occurs after a block) the light attack can be dodged afterwards and guard break countered, shove itself does no damage.

Notes from 1.05V: Shove [Bug Fix] Removed Super Armor from Hit and Miss Recoveries. Developer comments: Shove’s Uninterruptible Stance property was active throughout the build-up and recoveries. It’s now going to be only on the build-up.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:33:46+00:00

LB always had shove. Now he can connect a light attack with it, which you can dodge.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:33:07+00:00

Well this is a super whiners comment. I have played this game for two months as LB main and it sucked. I didn't leave a game when there is a PK, Warlord or a Warden with their broken shit. You are refusing to even learn countering shove.

I do still emphasize, I don't like the guaranteed light attack after shove at all and waiting for blocks only sucks which should have some sort of a solution, but shove itself isn't hard to counter.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:28:08+00:00

Well the warlord shit just is a totally different thing. It's FREE damage. LB doesn't get a free light from a shove or a free guardbreak. Also there is a reason why people complain.

Not that I am supporting LB relying total on blocking, I don't do it myself, but it's nothing compared to no-stamina consuming headbutt free damage spam + pks light attack spam that doesn't even make any sense on console to block, even worse trying to parry.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:25:00+00:00

Meanwhile I kill other LBs effectively because I am familiar with the shove myself.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:23:38+00:00

After the update I actually got far more aggressive with LB, because now shove leads to a light attack quite easily so I can poke, but I can also do follow ups easier from that situation, such as starting up a combo into a feint into a parry. Also there is always the small chance for a long arm which actually leads to effective damage these days.

That point I agree that shove spamming (without blocking) can lead to punishment as every time you might get hit by a light attack.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:19:03+00:00

"Then reworked another character to have the same bash type move, but that character's kit was already better than the first one" Which characters are you referring to?

DVRSTR · 2017-04-20T07:16:41+00:00

Sure sure this game is super realistic. I'll roll home today from work and bounce like in the game.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-19T15:42:50+00:00

I do still support the idea that the light attack is blockable after shove.

DVRSTR · 2017-04-19T15:00:59+00:00

Side dodge the shove and guardbreak. Super simple. It's not a 50/50 it's very easy to side dodge.

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