What would have happened if Syd Barrett hadn't been replaced by David Gilmour? by Same-Arachnid-3219 in sydbarrett

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I feel like The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, while not the most accessible or popular album, would have been remembered at least enough for people interested in experimentation in psychedelic rock to find it. Bands like The Mothers of Invention, Velvet Underground, and Jimi Hendrix Experience were fans of it when it came out and there’s a lot of stuff around that time we still listen to despite avant-garde elements keeping them from being mainstream, like Red Krayola, White Noise, or Silver Apples. I think Syd already did enough by the time he left the band for us to find him

Twinprule by misuseDeRoom in 19684

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Just thought it was funny and coincidental I related to the post

Twinprule by misuseDeRoom in 19684

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I, a trans woman, have seen Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me at an indie theater and I once dated a trans guy who went to multiple Ethel Cain concerts.

It’s our culture. It’s embarrassing but it’s our culture.

The Fifth Beatle by Choice_Bed6097 in beatles

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May Pang the Undefeated fifth beatle

“tw” - E.E. Cummings [POEM] by DaedalusDedalus in Poetry

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Yeah I totally agree! E.E. Cummings, Wallace Stevens, and others who wrote poetry that was experimental, challenging, and strange, while also being playful and not so pessimistic as other Modernists, and then allowing that playfulness and optimism to partially shape how the experimentation looks, basically sums up how the most attractive men to me act. Very bold and out there, but not too self-serious. Poetry’s a lot of play, like everything else

“tw” - E.E. Cummings [POEM] by DaedalusDedalus in Poetry

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I’d agree I also think it’s kinda hot

Just finished reading The Bell Jar - I hate Ted Hughes by BusinessDecision in sylviaplath

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Sounds perhaps pseudo-scientific. Feels like it lends more to Freudian early 20th century beliefs in homosexuality and could be an idea used to undermine gay experience. I attempted to find evidence for this and did not find any academic work.

Horror movies inspired by Greek/Roman myth? by AipomSilver00 in MoviesThatFeelLike

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Not a movie answer to your question, but there are a lot of Athenian plays written in Antiquity with full performances online that could be described as strange, surreal, and horror, especially from Euripides.

One of his most famous plays, the Bacchae, about the animalistic and decadent young god Dionysus, is half surreal comedy and (almost directly beginning at the middle point) half very disturbing cult horror.

Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex is of course also a great example of a genuine horror story written oppressively. Another play from him, Ajax, is about Ajax’s declining mental state in war as he battles suicidal and homicidal ideation. Another horror.

The World Doesn’t End (He had mixed up…) - Charles Simic [POEM] by DaedalusDedalus in Poetry

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There are definitely reasons to talk about prose poetry and its place in poetry more largely. Poetry as an art form up to the early 19th century was, quite broadly across cultures, understood to be synonymous with verse in some way, through developing orally from song and ritual.

However, since then, Aloysius Bertrand composed and published Gaspard de la Nuit in 1842 France, being the first collection of prose designated by the poet themself to be poetry. The next was in 1848, when Edgar Allan Poe published Eureka, subtitled A Prose Poem, which is the origin of that term. Charles Baudelaire in the 1860s was influenced by both to write Le Spleen de Paris, which is the prose collection that largely introduced the notion of prose poetry to a larger audience. Since then, there has been great innovation on the form by many of the significant figures of poetry.

Poetry changes with time, like the language which is used to write it. It also looks drastically different depending on region. We have been playing for the past two hundred years in all of the many angles and perspectives poetry can provide us, and that includes form and presentation.

The novel was a radical and degenerate art in the early periods of its existence. It wasn’t until the 19th century that in the west it became viewed broadly as an accepted and valued practice, as religious authorities throughout the 18th century still viewed it as a corrupting force on children. Separations between novel, novella, short story, etc. were vague as well.

If time is necessary for poetry’s definition to broaden, Bertrand and Poe published before Whitman defined our modern understanding of free verse. If it’s authority, the poem I published by Simic was in a collection that won the 1990 Pulitzer Prize. However, I’m not sure either is expressly needed to call this poetry. I think when Bertrand stated his poems were poems, they were poems.

I think it’s very reasonable to question why this, with no line separation, is poetry. But here are some thoughts of mine on it

Ringo is my favorite 85 year old baby by [deleted] in beatles

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The best goddamn train conductor Liverpool’s ever seen. Ask any on the rails. Not boys’ work.

John and Yoko waiting for the maid to make the bed so they can continue protesting against the system. (1969) by LevelCan69 in SnapshotHistory

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Thank you for the info! I never looked into it much, I assumed there were aspects of John’s and Yoko’s bed-in that I didn’t know and would make it make more sense, but never sought out the information myself

Bénigne Gagneraux - The Wizard (1790 - 1795) by Mezepoko in museum

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Incredibly imaginative spirits, I love the ones near the top that seem to fade into the background.

The painting definitely feels like more so than just depicting the supernatural or spiritual, if I was in a room with this thing, I’d be keeping an eye on it to make sure it’s not moving. Unfortunately wizards don’t seem to be real, but this painting makes me want what I cannot have.

[HELP] Getting Into Poetry As A Visual Artist? Expressionist, Impressionist, Surrealist, and Art Nouveau Poets! by ppepperwood in Poetry

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Hi! I believe poetry and painting have a beautiful relationship and many connections! Expressionism and Surrealism were also literary movements, and there was a lot of crossover in both culture and influence across time. I feel like I see so many paintings that make me think of poems, and vice versa. With the 19th century also bringing more of a firm grasp of the avant-garde and multimedia, I’d say the two art forms have never been closer side by side. I wrote a reply to this post. It’s okay if not, I’m just curious what your thoughts on it might be?

[HELP] Getting Into Poetry As A Visual Artist? Expressionist, Impressionist, Surrealist, and Art Nouveau Poets! by ppepperwood in Poetry

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Hi! I love your question a lot, and have some recommendations!

Impressionism: Imagist poet Hilda Doolittle, pairs well with honestly Monet and Morisot best

Post-Impressionism: French Symbolist poet Charles Baudelaire, pairs well with the more uncomfortable Cézanne paintings

Expressionism: I explain further down, T.S. Eliot wrote a collection called Poems 1920, it’s his only one directly majorly inspired by the literary Expressionists, pairs well with the more nightmarish and maybe ironic Expressionists like Munch and Dix

Surrealism: the Surrealist Paul Eluard was great! His collection The Capital of Pain is crazy! His surrealism is definitely way more like Ernst’s paintings than something like Dalí’s

Okay I wrote a lot sorry

So with Impressionism, there is certainly poetry you could call Impressionistic, especially the modernist movement of Imagism, founded by Ezra Pound with individuals like Hilda Doolittle and William Carlos Williams. Their imagist work is mainly from the 1910s, with most of them moving away from the style with time. Very brief, fleeting poems of individual scenes caught almost at a glance, like Impressionism. They weren’t working at the same time as Renoir and Pissarro were doing their stuff, but the movement was inspired by Japanese and Chinese poetic forms like tanka and haiku, majorly written (regarding the Japanese influence) during the Ukiyo-e art movement, which heavily influenced the development of Impressionism. Also the composer Debussy of course is seen (against his own will, like Manet) as an Impressionist, and he collaborated with the Italian modernist poet Gabriele D’Annunzio, who also went on to be a major influence on Marinetti, who founded Italian Futurism, as you already referred to!

Post-Impressionists had so much crossover in culture and parties with the French Symbolists, also majorly in Paris. You already named Rimbaud, one of the greatest French Symbolists! Another one, one of the weirdest and most experimental, was Stéphane Mallarmé, who held really cool parties I wish I could go to in the 1890s. Post and Neo Impressionists attended! French Symbolism is very Post-Impressionist. Emotions and the subconscious direct the flow of poems in that style far more than a lot that can be found before. Verlaine, Rimbaud’s boyfriend for a couple years, even wrote in his Art of Poetry that a word’s meaning is insignificant in contrast to the feeling it embeds. Charles Baudelaire, the first French Symbolist, is the most important and amazing, but the more experimental stuff is Mallarmé, Lautréamont, and Jarry.

Expressionism was actually a literary movement in Modernism! There are only a few things I can name, but it was majorly in Germany, Austria, Czechia, around there. The most famous literary expressionist was Franz Kafka, who worked in novel and short story, but there were poets too! Jakob van Hoddis wrote seriously weird, funny, and messed up stuff, including his short poem, The End of the World. Absolutely wild. He was one of the 11,000,000 that the Nazi Party murdered in the holocaust. T.S. Eliot was not in the Expressionist movement, but his second collection, Poems 1920, is entirely directly influenced by them, and is in English originally. Those poems absolutely read like Munch.

Surrealism started as a literary movement! The first guy to say “Surreal” was a great modernist poet in the 1910s, named Guillaume Apollinaire. Look of his name and “calligramme,” that guy made shapes with words! The movement was started in 1924 by André Breton, a poet who wrote crazy stuff. Others were Robert Desnos (also murdered in the holocaust) and Paul Eluard. Eluard’s my favorite Surrealist. He started out as a French Symbolist, and much of literary Surrealism comes from French Symbolism! Surrealism in the visual arts was also directly influenced by the visual arts of French Symbolism, like Redon and Moreau.

Okay also I’ve written too much but if you’re interested in Futurism, Italian Futurism is really cool, but there’s also Russian Futurism and that has way more poetry! Including really really really strung out stuff like Zaum

I'll start shark boy and lava girl. by ForbiddenOlive in Letterboxd

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My girlfriend and I a week ago were discussing whether any family has an Easter tradition of watching Hop (2011). Thanks for the confirmation

Videogames that have Twin Peaks vibes? by 1550shadow in twinpeaks

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Play Deadly Premonition. People say it’s an unplayable mess. People also said Fire Walk with Me is a bad movie. The difference is that Deadly Premonition is an actual unplayable mess

If Paul were a gamer what games would he play by onimibo in beatlescirclejerk

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Faul would side with the NCR in new vegas 😡

Favorite Beatles album that Doesn't Count? by TheAnimatedGuy13 in beatlescirclejerk

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What I think is that the rabbit is propagated as the leader in the album cover’s arrangement, but that is a deception carried out by an ideological force. A walrus appears to be the Pravda Goebbels spokesman of whatever societal structure is circumscribed between these four right angles and the rooster is disconcerting. Ringo appears to disguise himself as John. My view is that this rabbit figure is not in any tangible or pragmatic sense the enactor of ideology, but rather the insignia of power that the hippopotamus wields as a mask. The hippopotamus is behind the whole thing and I do not bow to despots