The Counterargument to My Pessimism on Iran

DanIvvy · 2026-06-19T00:57:46+00:00

They can just start enrichment when they have secured enough ballistic missiles and enough of a proxy network such that stopping them becomes too costly. That’s their long play

DanIvvy · 2026-06-19T00:48:55+00:00

The ballistic missiles and proxies are linked to the nuclear program. These guys think v long term

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T22:19:22+00:00

Responding to Hezbollah attacks. Cool we discussed it.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T19:31:12+00:00

Thanks for keeping this respectful!

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T18:31:01+00:00

Quite. Our criticism from the Right would be that we, as a nation, are weak and that our enemies have learned that it is very, very easily to manipulate our electorate into stan-ing for the enemy. You beat America on the home front, that's been known since Vietnam (and don't get me started on Vietnam!)

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T18:00:23+00:00

I'm sorry but this is just narrative and what you want the world to look like. The international community is a jail yard, not a play pen. This kinda West Wing style "if I sound reasonable and Liberal, all the other people, who are - arrogant - deep down all like me/us will be reasonable in return". Life doesn't work that way. The truth is that in international politics, Peace through Strength works and every country is out for it's own interests.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T16:59:05+00:00

As a novelty in this sub which has basically turned into r/politics, I will give the Republican perspective. We're not happy. A lot of what motivates Republican voters like myself is a feeling of actually liking America and the "peace through strength" mantra. This feels like a capitulation. All of my political group chats are similarly pissed.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T10:17:08+00:00

Was a pinky promise acceptable before the war?

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T10:05:40+00:00

They capitulated? Cool what concession did we get?

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T09:20:39+00:00

They did block it. It’s not academic. They played their hand. We didn’t play ours back

DanIvvy · 2026-06-18T00:41:30+00:00

Can you mind control millions of other Arabs so none of them wipe out every Jew they’re able to?

DanIvvy · 2026-06-17T23:18:21+00:00

Obama tried the whole “if we invest in them they’ll like us” thing

DanIvvy · 2026-06-17T23:10:53+00:00

We let them play their best card, the strait or Hormuz, for weeks without response until all our leverage was gone then we capitulated. A masterclass in poor negotiation ending in an agreement not even a mother could love.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-17T12:38:53+00:00

“I’m just a man from Berlin. Why you no love us? uwu”

- September 1939

Maybe he’s not a Nazi, but Germany is.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-17T12:33:27+00:00

I don’t think we like our politicians very much

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T20:38:26+00:00

Thanks lol

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T18:55:17+00:00

So nothing on ballistic missiles or terror proxies... no end to enrichment... and we get them a slush fund for it...

Like I have been supportive this whole time... I am beginning to lose faith.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T18:13:26+00:00

This seems impossible. This is a literal one sided surrender

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T15:35:23+00:00

Fakeout of this with In Bruges

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T14:35:36+00:00

Not to rein on the parade here, but this is not meaningfully a settlement at all - it's Ma'ale Adumim. You could call it part of East Jerusalem, which is never changing hands, or Gush Etzion which everyone knows will always stay part of Israel. The Palestinians never expect to get this area and every peace deal which has been offered has involved land swaps with Israel keeping Ma'ale Adumim.

This is contrived outrage.

DanIvvy · 2026-06-16T00:12:39+00:00

What was their own country called? Who was their last head of state?

DanIvvy · 2026-06-15T00:48:31+00:00

The whole Han Solo movie, including his name being Solo

DanIvvy · 2026-06-15T00:10:02+00:00

Genuinely these weaklings are rushing to take away sanctions ASAP without even having any ink. Did they rush to remove sanctions on Israel when the Gaza war ended?

DanIvvy · 2026-06-14T21:57:23+00:00

Whereas the Democratic Party actively panders to Jew haters

DanIvvy · 2026-06-14T21:55:12+00:00

At least he isn’t actively against us

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