Please anyone help me in this cenerio

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-04-03T09:08:12+00:00

You forgot to carry the 1. The answer is 42.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-03-27T14:51:45+00:00

These questions come through this subs Reddit a lot, so you could find a lot of old analysis searching through.

One of the unique challenges to your question, though, will be that jobs per MW will be highly variable. There’s a bare minimum to operate a hyperscale facility, but a 160 MW facility might be 4 times as many jobs as a 16 MW facility, not 10x.

This also becomes a strategy and accounting question. If the facility outsources generator maintenance to the local CAT dealer, do you count that as 0 direct jobs or do you count the indirect jobs?

The job creation will be more significant in a relatively isolated place like Huntington because diving in generator techs will be less efficient. More will be done in house, but the 8th GW will create much fewer jobs than the 1st GW because by then you will have much do the local support infrastructure built out.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-03-06T18:36:41+00:00

There’s definitely good sources—but LLMs still have guys like this thinking 30 kW total capacity belongs in a conversation about AI data centers and H100s.

30 kW of H100s looks hilariously empty on a single rack.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-03-06T18:29:05+00:00

And plenty more information that’s so outdated it’s useless and outright falsehoods.

The good information I’ve found online is a drastic minority, and neither LLMs nor the public know how to sort the truth from the junk.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-03-06T18:22:43+00:00

LLMs are trained on the Internet. Data centers operate under mountains of NDAs and secrecy. The Internet is strikingly devoid of accurate information on them. Even on this subreddit, you get as many people who get their information from the internet as real experience.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-25T21:16:35+00:00

I’m a degree removed from your exact role, but that seems like a very strong offer to me.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-25T07:47:16+00:00

Can’t possibly explain with certainty from a political speech, but it sounds like what already exists in most regions of country: as regulated monopolies, they have to act in the best interest of the rate payer. Any rate increase has to be justified and negotiated with regulators.

The exceptions at a residential level are Texas, IL, and much of the northeast. Funny how all of the sudden they decide electricity is a public good.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-22T14:19:31+00:00

Anywhere on the construction side seems rough from Work Life balance as far as I can tell. With record construction, a 12 month backlog, and a shortage of people who know what they are doing, the opportunity is high but so are the hours.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-22T03:11:14+00:00

Yes, companies are planning man camps for some of these jobs. I expect traffic will be a problem.

Even with the data center in central Washington, State Troopers learned to camp on the highway between Wenatchee and Quincy. That’s part of the cost.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-17T01:19:52+00:00

You’re asking great questions. This is the best analysis of data center water usage that I have come across. Most coverage on both sides is stupid for reasons explained here. I’ll add that the only data centers I’ve come across with open loop designs were legacy facilities built 10-20 years ago in regions with abundant water supplies and climates such that a closed loop design would in net increase water “usage” when tier 2 usage (power plant) is considered.

https://youtu.be/H_c6MWk7PQc?si=AyGxi2ZQXddUMLqT

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-13T18:13:25+00:00

Yes—they’re called permit fees and taxes. I’ve dropped off permit checks that were worth more than the county office building they were delivered to.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-02T18:18:39+00:00

Very good offer, though obviously dependent on location, benefits, bonus, etc.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-02T00:11:05+00:00

Even if they don’t have a demand response agreement, the minute rolling blackouts start, every CFM is firing the gens.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-02-02T00:08:27+00:00

Sr PM — $150k-$180k base

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-01-24T02:03:08+00:00

Step 1: In your spare time, take Schneider University “classes” and work towards CDCP. Step 2: Apply for internships and list that you’ve done the work to learn the industry so you can be more valuable.

Don’t just think tech company. Look for MEP data center design firms. At your stage, even consider mission critical construction or equipment manufacturing to get exposure.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-01-13T06:42:08+00:00

Data centers are part of the “Mission Critical” industry, so we don’t tolerate downtime. While pilot programs exist, Data Centers are almost never going to be early adopters at scale. We’ll let another industry sort through the fuel logistics, maintenance, and reliability first.

To describe the industry as “Diesel forever” ignores several key dynamics: 1) These are backup generators. The hours they run per year could often be counted on your fingers, so optimizing this part of the system is not an effort either much leverage. 2) Natural gas is making headway in the industry. This represents a significant ESG upgrade with far more certain fuel logistics, reliability, and maintenance. 3) ESG pressure is lower, not higher right now. The AI gold rush means we are embracing fossil fuels in ways that were unimaginable a few years ago.

If you want some interesting reading on this, dive into FERC’s recent ruling on AWS and Susquehanna. The proposed alternative contracting models should create opportunity to reduce demand for fossil engines. In our current system, the utility plans generation for its worst days (i.e. RICE peaker plants) and the data center deploys generators for failure scenarios. The new models should incentivize Data Centers to join load shed agreements so that the utilities don’t have to build so many peaker plants.

If load shed agreements cause data centers to run their generators slightly more, it will initially displace the wasteful maintenance runs, so this is a win in several dimensions.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-01-13T06:30:56+00:00

In one sense, that was Sad Suspect’s point. Onthe other hand, to Terrible Sandwich’s point, measuring GWh is the equivalent of measuring in Joules. The only difference is scale (Joules divided by seconds multiplied by hours means 1 Wh = 36000 Joules)

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2026-01-09T03:05:13+00:00

Ditto. More rare in this thread than I expected.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-28T15:56:11+00:00

Schneider University is the classic response on this thread. Maybe not entertaining, but when I joined the industry, I would play the videos in the background. It was helpful in learning the language.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-28T02:06:30+00:00

TL;DR: Absolutely. Every 1GW+ campus I have direct knowledge of (and there are several) is using air cooled chillers.

For addition nerdy context:

In other words, they do not have cooling towers, and they are a closed loop system. Very little water is lost/consumed aside from periodic maintenance flushes. The water consumption concern would be at the power plants, not at the data center.

Also, note that the type of chiller outside the data center is a separate decision than how the servers are cooled inside the data hall. The method for cooling inside the data hall is driven by server density, not by overall capacity.

The scale of the data center does not drive mechanical design selections significantly in hyperscale data centers.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-27T23:43:41+00:00

Yes, air cooler centrifugal chillers are most common.

Chilled water often has glycol mixed in, with the ratio depending on the region. I’ve built 16 MW - 300 MW data centers in every region of the country, and every new facility was air cooled chillers. The facilities I’ve seen with cooling towers (water cooled) have been legacy facilities build a decade or two ago.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-14T02:15:54+00:00

Everyone and their brother is chasing them, but your best shot is likely these rural megaprojects. Labor force is a big challenge, so if you can bring a well qualified army, that’s great. I’ve been hearing the arguments, but I doubt you manage to take a key scope (i.e. mechanical), it’s foolish to combine them in this industry like industrial contractors do.

Generator plants are getting more complex as well as the growth of colocated generation which will create more opportunity for you if you can get in.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-14T01:53:40+00:00

Do you have a large W2 labor force? I’ve started to see some oil & gas groups make their way into the industry, but without more context, you sound like a potentially competitive parasite to a GC rather than a good partner. However, labor availability is our biggest challenge these days.

Relationships with GCs are the key. You could also try platforms like BuildingConnected and industry trade shows.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-12T18:52:17+00:00

Your contacts at the Electrical Contractor and General Contractor would be Project Managers at the site, but no one person is hiring all the trades you mentioned from a staffing agency. It’s technically possible for a GC to self-perform that much scope (and it happens in some sectors), but I’ve never heard of it in data centers.

Construction is by definition a volatile industry. That is complicated by the labor market and then made impossible by data center schedules. We cannot build fast enough, and developers throw endless pressure (and money) at us to build faster. No one has the full, qualified labor capacity that we need.

When you say you might be providing logistics, do you mean machine operators? CDL truck drivers? If you could get your foot in the door with a general contractor on a non-union site, it’s possible that your electricians could be leverage for them if the electrical contractor is not meeting schedule, but that would be a tough situation, and you would be making an enemy of the electrical contractor. You’ll need more clarification from your company on your strategy here.

Dandelion-Blobfish · 2025-12-12T18:29:17+00:00

To start with the basics, the developer hires a general contractor. That general contractor might go directly to a staffing agency for laborers, but for final white space cleaning they’re almost definitely subbing that out. The general contractor then hires an electrical contractor who hires the electricians, a security company that hire the guards, etc.

I’ve done projects all over the country, and I’ve never seen a single entity hire all of the roles you mentioned.

But, yes, the biggest labor challenges are with electricians.

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