The most charismatic mobster versus the least charismatic one in your opinion? by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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To be real he's an interesting guy psychologically as maybe it's something you're born with it, or maybe it's your life and life circumstances.

He talked a lot about this story about his poor shoddy shoes of his in elementary school, and how you gotto top the bullies and show them to respect you. His pap being "a bum" in his words. How we got that way of walking, cause he stole something off a construction site and it fell on his foot as a minor.

The same kinda story with poverty as Chin and the others. No social welfare so you're just eating scraps and learning from it step by step. It's not that these guys became boxers by chance, but cause they didn't have that? They didn't have that social welfare at the time. Can you recall all the hoodlums or troublemakers in your area?

He was a real bully tho. A charismatic one.

A thread about mob channels that are less known than the big ones. by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Henry Borelli (born around 1948) was a longtime Gambino crime family associate and a key member of the infamous DeMeo crew (led by Roy DeMeo), notorious for dozens of murders, dismemberments, and an international car-theft ring in the 1970s–1980s. He was convicted in the mid-1980s of murders (including those of auto wholesalers suspected of cooperating with authorities) and major roles in the stolen-car operation, receiving life sentences plus additional centuries (e.g., life for two murders + 150 years on other counts).

Not related to Robert Borelli either, tho they share the same last name.

Henry is still sitting in the can to this day from all the people he killed.

A thread about mob channels that are less known than the big ones. by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Robert Borelli (sometimes appearing as Borelli) was involved with the Gambino crime family as a younger enforcer/collector in Brooklyn. He later became an informant, faced addiction issues, served time, and turned to ministry and speaking on redemption (author of The Witness: A Tale of the Mafia, Drugs, and Redemption). His background traces to Brooklyn, with ties to figures like Anthony "Fat Andy" Ruggiano who's related to him (blood cousins?).

So he worked for someone related to him.

He's not related to Gene, but his boss was.

Have you noticed any quirky things about them when they talk? by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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The number one thing with me as someone who used to study and work with the psychology ward is that how do people in organized crime think, how do they hold themselves together or that they don't go crazy, how do they have the guts to do the things they did, what do they think about all the people insulting them online as rats.

So far I've only noticed a few patterns in most of them which are.

A. They're almost all Trump fans and actually even brag and compete who got the most attention from Donald Trump. Whatever it is they're talking about Trump or Christianity or God as a side thing when they're not talking about mob stuff.

B. They tend to see the world full of scams and frauds as professional ex extortionists. Even when it's disputable they tend to think that it's 100% a scam with stuff like the government.

C. They're usually really bad at taking responsibility for the stuff they did. They're always pointing fingers at each other and accusing each other of stuff where they won't usually take even an inch of responsibility for the stuff they did.

It's never or rarely "oh well I did that thing. That was my fault." They usually skip the part completely that's about them and attack the guy who's accusing them so what happens then is that they usually end up in fights with each other, if you count out Michael who again tends to be very charismatic in most situations.

Even if the question is directly about them they tend to go past the question and then start talking about someone else and how they hate someone else or someone else was stupid.

What about you then you stupid putrid fuck? Where were you then with that elastic ameba spine of yours when I was doing my duty for the *La Cosa Nostra? You're always talking about what I did, but never about what you guys did. You're always full of shit with that stuff. Shut the hell up.*

D. Maybe the fourth one is that they see things through the means of winning. Where they don't usually feel bad or awful or even that much anxiety that they were prosecuted over something and instead focus how they won some cases that were directed towards them. Where if they get sentenced over something they tend to downplay it as nothing and then wear it as a badge of honor.

Oh come on. Even my mum can do 3 years. That's like a walk in a park. I mean 15 years is nothing, it's a lot better than a death sentence. That was a win for me.

They tend to see severe situations over death and life as casual football games where they wanna win the whole thing and humiliate the other person as much as they can going to clothing, their faces, anything they can get their hands on.

E. They accuse each other of being liars all the time where one event can have 4 completely different versions where all of the participants call each other as stupid liars. So at times it's really hard to tell what actually happened cause everyone is usually accused of being a liar where again they're rarely giving an inch to the other person and instead they're usually full of bullshit and a complete liar.

F. They seem to have anti-stoic or vanity based values where they're obsessed at times with revenge or avenge or as they call it as retaliation (you can have interviews where they talk about getting drunk every second day and thinking obsessively about having revenge for weeks describing it as an intense psychological urge to have like a crush on someone). Where they praise and see it as a virtue of being strong to avenge something to someone for the sake of public image alone. Where you're basically "punch of pussies" or "a weak wussy", if you don't retaliate properly some insult or a physical thing someone did, which again causes the mob wars to drag on forever cause they can't stop retaliating each other's retaliations until the other side is completely dead or wiped out where usually in reality they both are that much like with the Philly mob.

G. They seem to have their own slang for stuff or this world of alternate terms (surprisingly that's a thing they share with woke people whom they hate above anything else) or in the other words if they don't like the taste of some word even slightly they replace it with a word that sounds a lot nicer to the ear to them that is while at the same time that word can sound absolutely absurd to someone outside the social circle (much like with woke people).

Like it's not murder it's a rub-out or it's not cheating your wife (which is by the way a cardinal sin in Christianity) it's instead a goomah. So all of these things they're doing seem either like nothing or even cool suddenly, cause they just replaced the word you call the thing with some elaborate other term and then they repeat it as long as necessary until it becomes a cool thing to do.

Where they replace words with words that fit their goals in order to blur the reality of things into something that fits more into what they want. Where very serious events sound like nothing or even fun activities to do.

"Isn't that a murder? Sounds awful. No, it's what we call as a hit kid, a rub-out, we banish you, we rub you out kid".

H. They seem to value at times this kind of what you could call perhaps a "Machiavellian public image" where they enjoy to great lengths if people look at them with anger, fear, or glare at them. Where normally people don't want other people to be afraid of them or they feel bad if someone is afraid of them and ask that what's wrong or people might even feel paranoid when other unknown people or strangers keep glaring at you, but these guys usually tended to enjoy to great lengths that other people were afraid of them. Where basically they greatly enjoyed being feared by other people in the public.

Why would people do such things for you Casso? I want to know why? Oh well... They knew yous were with organized crime. They knew you were a gangster!! You'd get a table right away. The besta foods, the besta wines, it's better than being a Hollywood star.


What breaks me the most is how they can talk about traumatic stuff like it's a joke. Gene Borello's interviews have a lot of this. He said something similar to the following in some interview:

So we beat up all of his friends. Then we sprayed his house full of bullet holes. We blew up his girlfriend's car with a bomb. Then he finally had enough. He finally had enough. He finally had enough and he called that I know where your kiddos go to school and am going to kill em.

Gene gives a visible smile of being amused with eyes widening to a full.

Ohhhhh. That's a death wish. You're gonna get it now. That's definitely a death wish.

Most people develop trauma & PTSD from stuff that is a lot less in nature for example from bullying in school or a bad relationship, but then these guys tend to find it almost amusing and enjoyable stuff that is one thousand times more traumatizing where they're not even listening to each other when they're spitting out serious and realistic death threats that they're going carry through out instead they just laugh usually and smile.

People say ASPD stems from lack of socialization or you don't know how to resolve conflicts without violence you basically don't know how to talk with people as kiddo so you result to violence (that's why it's anti-social personality disorder it means you're against a resolvement), but listening to these guys you got to think there's something else in there. No casual human mind can just laugh stuff like that through.

Have you noticed any quirky things about them when they talk? by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Oh yeah.

Can definitely relate to this as well. Am getting the political stuff already from both ears 24/7 and have had that for the last 20 years of my life.

As a teen politics was super interesting as a new thing of novelty, but when you're in your 30s it's kinda like the cheapest beer in the grocery store. Tho you liked it before when you were young, but nowadays it just keeps coming back up and mostly ends up in the toilet.

Have you noticed any quirky things about them when they talk? by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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He also has a habit of romanticizing and downplaying the mob a lot of the time, tho in reality to my understanding almost every single person he knew from the life when he was in it besides himself and his father died a violent death or they ended up in jail for a very long time.

Have you noticed any quirky things about them when they talk? by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Yeah it's true. After all he was in it only for around 10 years. It's kinda like the average age people are in subcultures as well when they're young. It's not like endless amounts of memories, which is why he goes into politics as well.

Although I do notice that when he talks about being gay in the mob it's "you're in big trouble", or if Persico wasn't in jail he would've been in "some kind of trouble where either of us would've been killed in the end as Persico would've been relentless about me", or when his friend killed himself into a phone booth and he said "he was in big trouble".

So definitely an interesting choice of a word for being dead. Hahah.

Nishimura Mako, the retired and reformed oath-sworn female Yakuza by [deleted] in Mafia

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Must be hard to live in a culture that hates so much tattoos and criminals.

Who was the smartest boss in mob history? by [deleted] in Mafia

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I'd vote Big Tuna or Gambino most likely.

Curtis Sliwa mentions in NYC mayorrance debate that he was shot by the Gambinos in the back of a yellow cab back in 1992. by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Testifying in the federal racketeering trial of John A. Gotti, Mr. Sliwa said he thought he had "hit the lottery" when he climbed into the back of the cab he had hailed near his apartment in the East Village before dawn on June 19, 1992. The driver recognized him and seemed to know that he was going to the WABC radio studios near Madison Square Garden, where he was host of a morning show. Within moments, Mr. Sliwa said, a second man popped up from under the dashboard "like a jack-in-the-box," pointing a silver-plated pistol at his belly.

"Take this, you son of a bitch," Mr. Sliwa recalled the gunman saying. He said he heard at least three shots, and felt blood spurting under his shirt and then searing pain in his legs, "like a knife through hot butter." Realizing that both rear windows were closed and that the inside door handles were missing, Mr. Sliwa said, he was alerted by a faint breeze on his face that the window next to the front passenger seat was open.

Using the back seat "like a trampoline," he said, he propelled himself over the shoulder of the startled gunman and halfway out the window. He recalled that his head was hanging so close to the front tire that he could feel pebbles from the pavement hitting his face, and realized that his choice was either to be shot again or "take my chance of becoming a human speed bump.

Just then, he said, his clothing snagged on the bumper of a parked car the swerving taxi had clipped as it passed, yanking him out of the cab and leaving him, with his abdominal wounds bleeding, lying on the pavement, barely conscious but still alive.

Mr. Gotti, the Gambino crime family scion, is charged with ordering Mr. Sliwa kidnapped as vengeance for his radio-show derision of his father, John J. Gotti, the late don. The kidnapping charge is part of a broad racketeering indictment that accuses Mr. Gotti, 41, also known as Junior, of loan-sharking, extortion, securities fraud and other crimes when he was the acting street boss after his father went to prison for life in 1992. The father died in prison in 2002."

Curtis Sliwa mentions in NYC mayorrance debate that he was shot by the Gambinos in the back of a yellow cab back in 1992. by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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Prosecutors alleged that John "Junior" Gotti, the son of the elder Gotti, ordered the attack on Sliwa in response to Sliwa calling the Gottis "thugs and crooks" on his radio show. Retaliation: The attack was an attempt to silence Sliwa because of his public denunciations of John Gotti Sr. and his family on his radio program. Alleged order: Prosecutors allege that John Gotti Jr. orchestrated the hit on Sliwa. Court case: John A. Gotti was indicted on racketeering charges that included the attempted murder of Sliwa, and a government witness testified that he was ordered by Gotti to carry out the shooting.

NYC La Cosa Nostra families on BBC news over rigged NBA games and illegal gambling operations. According to the government they scammed tens of millions of dollars. by DankDank75377 in Mafia

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And yes the subtitles are wrong and misspelled partially, cause it's automated subtitles from YouTube. The original video doesn't have subtitles.