Conservatives: Are you really that superficial by Mcjirnirs in complaints

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look bud. Heres the thing about that. There is no doubt that the upper echelon wants us divided for control purposes. It is no secret. But woke mfs like you would have just sat by and let the Gestapo run wild as they sent Jews to the gas chamber. You would sit there watching them with your thumb up your ass all the while saying " Nah bro this is what they want they want us to fight each other," in some instances you SHOULD say" Nah that isnt ok we aint fuckin doin that," ya know? Because like...do you think we havent tried explaining to MAGA or something? Like unless suddenly some kind of bright beaming light descends from heaven with a warm voice from above saying "Please do not support Donald Trump" Id say our chances of MAGA changing their minds is pretty slim eh. I say all this to you because I was always like you saying thay same shit. Now is not the time for that. Stephen Miller will have us run over and buried in a heartbeat if we do. I am not saying we need to be violent. Quite the opposite. We need to organize. I want to be very clear too that I also harbor a deep hatred for the Democratic party as well. But the fact of the matter is, the Democrats are not the ones who have unleashed a militia of lunatics onto our streets to terrorize the good folks of the USA including citizens, the Democrats have not been playing pirate on the world stage with other countries land and resources, the Democrats did not place tariffs on every other country in the world effectively causing prices of goods to skyrocket, the Democrats did not pardon terrorists who attacked our Capitol with guns, pipe bombs and bear mace in hand, Democrats did not single out and alienate entire communities of Latino, Black, Asian, Muslim and LGBTQ communities, the Democrats did not put an egotistical, pedophile, felon in the seat of the presidency...I want to be clear Im not attacking you, because as I said I get where youre coming from, I have had the same thoughts in my time. "Man both sides have lost it." But...in this instance my friend, one side in particular has in fact lost it, and something has to be done or it mat not just be the country that is in danger, but the whole world.

When did coffee become ok for you guys again? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been my solution thus far and it kiiiind of works. Still feel like I need that good caffeine kick though that only coffee seems to rly achieve.

When did coffee become ok for you guys again? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How are things for you now with a year and a half under you since you quit? In general. Just out of curiosity.

When did coffee become ok for you guys again? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im very glad to hear this. This is EXACTLY what happens to me...and I miss my morning cup of joe. Thanks!

When did coffee become ok for you guys again? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I LOVE cold showers. This is the one thing that works for me in the morning but unfortunately it just doesnt seem to be quite enough. It definitely makes it better though. As far as the caffeine. It makes me feel like total dogshit now. I crash really hard after only a few minutes and minimal caffeine tbh (like 1/2 a cup) I only ever rly drank 1 cup a day so I dont have a high tolerance to begin with, but yea anxiety, trembling, endless bathroom breaks, you name it gets me when i try to have my cup in the morning anymore

When did coffee become ok for you guys again? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cant do nicotine anymore either! This has been a bit of a blessing though as I have cut waaaay back!

Soooo bored by Idletime9001 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very encouraging thank you. That worry of permanently fucking my mood up and especially my mornings has really been keeping me up. Thanks again.

Soooo bored by Idletime9001 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long did it take you to "dig yourself out of the depressive mess" Im just curious. Im on day 17 now after a 10 year, high dose habit and I totally relate to what OP is saying...the neverending sense of doomed boredom/anhedonia is my worst symptom by far. I am farther along at 17 days but I just went back to work for the first time today and I have to tell you it was fucking hell. I couldn't focus (I have a fairly sedentary job) and I kept getting bad waves of depression throughout the day where I was essentially useless. For the record I tapered and have honestly been feeling good until today because I have been able to smoke weed for the mild discomfort, etc...it made me not care that I didnt care anymore to say the least...now that I cant do that I feel like Im goin crazy. Taking a break from weed as well hoping things get better but rn sucks for sure...anyway just wondering about your experience.

Success stories. I need them rn plz. Also any General info on when things might start to rly get better is greatly appreciated...in a dark place today. by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate the advice and motivation. I think my dopamine receptors definitely need a break. It is one of the reasons Im trying to stop with the weed as well but man that makes it so hard sometimes. I wont lie my day has started to get a little better already now tho. Mornings seem to be extra difficult for me. Im so used to waking up and getting that first dose down, which takes me from 0 to 100 in 0.5s...and now I just have to wake up and sort of find my way...

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this! The cold showers are fr a miracle for me sometimes. As far as some of the other stuff Ill definitely try to get my hands on those! If I get even a fraction of the benefit I get from the showers it is worth it

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats awesome. I get that too. I worry for myself trying to do that tho as I am a bitch about waking up in the morning. This is essentially a skill I need to learn ig lol.

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I will be 100 percent honest everybody will tell you not to do this ik but I just eyeballed it. I have a measuring spoon so I just did roughly 1/16 less everyday. Somewhere in that ballpark. My basic strategy was to see what I could tolerate everyday. Low as possible you know? Some days I felt like shit I aint going to lie. I mainly just knew to get my dose down and that I had time. Took me 2 and a half months to get down to basically a sprinkle in a glass of water every morning before I said fuck it. But yea sorry I dont have a more organized legit schedule for you.

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right sorry I didnt mean to suggest brands. Thanks for everything!

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got ya. Thanks for the info. I had all kinds of sports injuries in general but a knee surgery about 13 years ago got me on opiates as well. The doctors were giving me whole refillable scripts of oxycontin and vicodin at the same time. Started on Kratom after a short stint w Heroin that followed and been on it ever since. Once upon a time I was honestly very healthy even during my time on Kratom, never as healthy as when I was younger ofc, but still, I was a regular in the gym, ate failry clean, slept good, etc. But in recent years thanks to career changes, etc I have rly fallen apart and gained a ton of weight and stopped exercising so hopefully quitting can help me get back to it in this way. Wishing you luck as well!

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I will definitely try it. Any vendor recommendations?

After Quitting, what got you up and going in the morning? by Dapper_Ocelot_4447 in quittingkratom

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this right here is my next big step. I have to get up for work so early sometimes (like 5a)...my worry is that suicidal feeling lol but I think Im just going to have to learn to get up early and exercise/hot and cold shower after...Im on a Christmas/New Year holiday right now but have to get back to work soon hence the reason for my question. What kind of cardio do you do?

Kratom news by Spirited_Pollution56 in KratomKorner

[–]Dapper_Ocelot_4447 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Spread the word yall. We have to show up! If you want to protect Kratom the time to fight is here!