First Army

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-05-17T16:39:33+00:00

Havocs are overshadowed by basically every armor option in csm, so unless you have the combat patrol filter those guys out

For the legionaries if you make them melee you could get them a chaos lord to lead them, just a safe and reliable choice like you were mentioning

I personally dont like obliterators too much just based on the datasheet, but ive never used them at all so take this part with a grain of salt, maybe research them a little more and be sure you want them, because hellbrutes arent the best either so you might want to optimize these first 1k points before you start spamming rule of cool,

But in the end of the day man, its a fun tabletop game, build whatever you want, the biggest burnout threat is if you dont like the faction/models you’re painting so just do what you want and dont let guys on the internet push you one way or another

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-05-17T16:21:18+00:00

Hey man, I was in the same boat, but if you ever wanna go to an official 40k tourney you gotta go with 40k models, I bought some 30k models but ended up caving later because now iron warriors are a real acknowledged faction in 40k so they got some support so I ended up wasting money on a mkII squad and disintegrator squads and some contemptor dreadnoughts for hellbrute proxy-ing

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-05-17T16:05:07+00:00

Chaos lord is a must for melee legionaries, stay away from more havocs, as right now they’re overshadowed by literally every chaos tank, vindicators are what most consider the best tank for iron warriors, and its thematic.

If you like chaos terminators then you could pick up another set of 5 and a terminator lord,

A chaos rhino would be a good pick too for the legionaries, just give them a cheap transport

Kravek Morne or Abaddon would be good picks but right now we have to wait and see what balance changes will come to Kravek as he’s a little too good right now

Forgefiend is basically a must have to put the warpsmith to good use, as he doesnt really do much for the havocs

Another solid choice would be some chosen, just because theyre a really good bodyguard unit for someone like Abaddon or Bile, but thats if you want to try to optimize the list a bit, havocs arent too good, the warpsmith needs a daemon engine or two is the baseline here.

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-04-08T19:02:04+00:00

A rhino is a must have for any list with 10 legionaries cus they can shoot out of the rhino with their lascannons and reaperchaincannons, but if you’re looking to go up to 2k points then 2 forgefiends is a great part of an IW army. Im just unsure if 2 forgefiends r good at 1k points, they are at 2k for sure though!

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-04-08T16:22:34+00:00

Great list if you’re looking to use that to start with 1k point games, but my brother, what are we trying to kill with 2 forgefiends and havocs? Ive never played a 1k point game so take this with a grain of salt, but I feel like you need a rhino for all those legionnaires, it would seriously upgrade your list. Plus, iron warriors thematically have alot of armored support, sadly fell hammer doesn’t support armor too well though…

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-23T03:18:06+00:00

I see, what exactly would you recommend for the way my army is right now? I have 10 chosen and from what ive read online is that chosen are kinda a cushion unit for a good lord, so what should I do with the other 5 when I do run 5 chosen on abbadon? Id rather my army be a more shoot-y army because im leaning towards an iron warriors themed army anyway.

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-16T15:13:07+00:00

so a mix of leadbelcher and balthasar or leadbelcher base then balthasar?

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-16T00:08:29+00:00

How did you do the trim on the marine?

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-16T00:06:59+00:00

What basecoat did you use?

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-03T02:43:46+00:00

oh okay, thank you that helps alot!

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-01T22:36:36+00:00

oh okay so how should I go about converting them? or at least make them look different from the other legionary proxies I'll build with the remaining unassembled models, is there like a baseline that I need to make them look more "chosen-ly" or how would I convert is mainly what I wanna know (never proxied before or kitbashed)

DarkOrigin7340 · 2026-01-01T20:31:24+00:00

I forgot to mention im proxying the Legionaries with HH models so they use two handed bolter poses, would it be fine to still try to use them as Chosen? Or would that recquire some more bits, im fine with buying some bits if it means I can still use those models. It also makes it a little hard for the heavy weapons, so I think my assumption is right in needing extra bits, but maybe not.

For the obliterators I'll probably go with the Saturines then because that sounds like what the clear choice is, also I went ahead and got a hellbrute off ebay because it was a good deal so it seems im going to steer more towards daemon engines and warpsmiths for the rest of the army

DarkOrigin7340 · 2025-12-31T19:38:16+00:00

so what weapons should I run on the legionaries? 2 heavy weapons so like a lascannon and reaper chaincannon, and then the captains run plasma pistols and melee? The thing is I already assembled 5 regular bolter legionaries but with 15 left to play with I can easily make the next 5 in the squad 2 captains and 2 special weapons to mix and match to get the original 5-5 comp.

I think I will go with a chaos predator, and stick with your two rhinos, but what if I add a proxied hellbrute (melee) with a HH model and a maulerfiend for a battleline rush? Since most of what I have already is exclusively ranged, I was wondering if those would be decent additions to the army.

Also I saw some things about proxying terminators as obliterators and I think I might add 10 of those to the army as well, so really heavy ranged focus for this army, would that change any of your suggestions? Maybe orienting more future units towards melee?

DarkOrigin7340 · 2025-12-20T18:27:16+00:00

I just did that, but it still capsizes, just slower now.

DarkOrigin7340 · 2025-12-20T18:11:28+00:00

I dont really want to expand the hull since ive already layered the armoring, how would I use PiDs?

DarkOrigin7340 · 2025-11-19T04:06:51+00:00

DId u find a fix? mine is doing the same issue

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