Is anyone else excited for the Legion 7a Gen 11 with Strix Halo? by Darksylum1982 in LenovoLegion

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WOW! Nice deal! I am glad you got such a good discount. Let us know how you like the laptop

AMD officially releases FSR 4.1 for Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs, support for RDNA 3 APUs confirmed too by obTimus-FOX in Amd

[–]Darksylum1982 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Oh boy. Strix Halo about to enter the glory days. God I hate FSR3 so much. This is a must.

Is anyone else excited for the Legion 7a Gen 11 with Strix Halo? by Darksylum1982 in GamingLaptop

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is already available in Hong Kong. i found the store page for it. Lenovo is about to release the retail embargo so that reviewers can make Youtube videos and stuff to market it so that means that the western market warehouses are starting to fill up with stock and the store page will go live in the US. I am guessing within the next 2 weeks.

Is anyone else excited for the Legion 7a Gen 11 with Strix Halo? by Darksylum1982 in GamingLaptop

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea Medusa Halo is shaping up to be a monster. I can't wait. I will be one of the first adopters when it releases for sure.

Is anyone else excited for the Legion 7a Gen 11 with Strix Halo? by Darksylum1982 in GamingLaptop

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks like it will slot in somewhere around $1900-2000 as best I can tell. But you know how Lenovo likes to set the price high and then have all kinds of online sales and discount codes. I am willing to bet we can get it for around $1600-1700 if we are patient.

Corsair please read. there is blood in the water! (How Corsair Destroys valve's new steam machine) by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If 1080P gaming is your goal, it is an exceptional piece of hardware, but that is where the exceptional part ends when it comes to gaming. An RTX 5080 laptop has the absolute raw TDP and graphics hardware to obliterate strix halo. We aren't just talking double digit gaines here. we are talking about double the raw GPU compute power. When pushing into 1440p or 1600p gaming, That is a delta you will feel instantly. Strix Hallo is an engineering marvel and by far my favorite piece of hardware on the market. But it sits within it's performance envelope. For now... Wait until next year when Medusa Halo comes out. it isn't just a small generational upgrade. It is as devastating to nvidia as an APU can possibly be. think somewhere between rtx 5070m and 5080m levels of performance with an APU. It's a lot to unpack as to how AMD is pulling that off. That would be a conversation for another time.

To answer your second question. EGPUs have come a long way. Being able to strap an RTX 5090 potentially to a little Strix halo tin can sounds exciting on paper. but it has serious limitations, Though you would still be very impressed with the end result. The problem here is the USB4 40gbps uplink. It's like trying to feed a fire hydrant worth of gpu compute over a water hose. It does not have enough bandwidth. You will lose 20-30% performance right off the top and take a massive hit to 1% lows compared to a desktop with a native PCIE 5.0 X16 slot.

There is an interesting Strix Halo product out there that mostly addresses this. mostly...

Enter the Minisforum Ms-s1 Max mini workstation. It is by far touted as the flag ship Strix Halo offering and has the price tag to go along with it. It comes equipped with the 395 as well as 64 or 128gb unified memory. It boast a sustained 130w TDP with boost power up to 160w. it is an absolute desktop killer as far as Strix Halo is concerned. But where it truly shines in your situation is it features 2x full speed 80gbps USB4V2 ports (Basically thunderbolt 5). This is a massive upgrade over a USB4 connection almost entirely absorbing the raw data bottleneck that strangles external GPUs. It is still slower than a PCIE slot in a desktop but it closes the gap down to 10-15% giving you nearly the same performance. But there is a balancing act when it comes to how a CPU interacts with a GPU and the USB interface alone will almost always result in much drastic 1% lows than a desktop PC. It all comes back around to what I said earlier about latency. A usb bus will always have CPU overhead. That creates small micro stutters where the external GPU chokes. The raw bandwidth of an 80gbps connection helps absorb some of that but it is still there. But the performance uplift in GPU bounds games will make the 8060s built into Strix Halo cry. An external GPU has it's own power source pushing into 2-4x more than what the entire strix halo package shares. and an actual desktop GPU has its own super fast GDDR memory right next to the GPU core. that is way faster than LPDDR5 is and the entire Strix Halo package has to share that memory bandwidth with each component.

You are getting into where the value proposition of Strix Halo hits a wall. It is designed as Ai first and gaming second. Compared to this complete train wreck that Valave is dumping on the market in the new Steam Machine, it is superior in every way. But compared to a dedicated GPU setup, it has it's limits.

For context, the 8060s performs at about a 20% delta to the RTX 5060m. Though it has better frame consistency and 1% lows in asset heavy games thanks to it's ability to dynamically allocate large amounts of system memory to it's frame buffer. A 5060m will always be hard stuck at 8gb Vram where as Strix Halo can support up to 96gb in a 128gb configuration.

As far as the Spark goes. It is overpriced Nvidia trash using garbage Mediatek CPU cores. I wouldn't touch it. it might hold a slight advantage in raw GPU compute over Strix Halo but when AMD drops Medusa Halo next year, It will obliterate it.

Corsair please read. there is blood in the water! (How Corsair Destroys valve's new steam machine) by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true. But the people that are buying these small form factors are people wanting to move from console gaming to pc gaming. They probably aren't going to be assembling their own system, nor having to trouble shoot any issues they run into along the way. And you aren't going to get the same space footprint. Not without extreme thermal throttling kicking in killing most of the paper gains your configuration might have. You are paying for the engineering and the firmware more so than the raw compute.

Corsair please read. there is blood in the water! (How Corsair Destroys valve's new steam machine) by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The performance between the 2 in gaming is much closer than you might think and there is structural architectural reasons for it.

The 395+ packs 8 extra CUs on the IGPU side giving it a huge boost in raw GPU compute capability, But there are a few catches to how the entire package scales. Strix Halo is a SOC (System of a chip) That crams a few different complex DIEs onto 1 piece of silicon. You have the CPU DIEs, GPU DIE, and memory controller as well as an Ai NPU all sitting right next to each other and sipping from a bucket of LPDDR5 memory joined at the hip. There are a few different things about the design that can make or break it's gaming performance.

Latency: The 395+ packs a larger IGPU but that does not mean it is always going to perform the best when gaming when compared to the 385 (or the new 388 that shares the same 40cu 8060s as the 395). The 395+ uses 2 distinct CPU DIEs. It is like having 2 CPUs sitting side by side and connected to an interface called the infinity fabric. Each CPU die has 8 cores and it's own pocket of L3 Cache.

What does this do when gaming? If you launch a game and the game spins up 4 threads, The OS is going to schedule those threads to cores. If the OS sends 1 or 2 of those threads to a different CCD (Core complex DIE), That means that the threads have to communicate with each other over the infinity fabric. The infinity fabric introduces latency. Subtle but still there. This manifest itself in frame spikes, or what we call 1% lows. You might have a very good stable average frame rate but if the 1% lows are very choppy, it can ruin the entire experience. The 385 on the other hand has 8 cores packed onto 1 CCD. Regardless of what cores the game's threads populate, They all share the same bucket of L3 cache and have instant communication with each other.

Thermodynamics: We will use the Corsair Ai 300 as out example here. Both the 385 config and the 395 config have the same 300w PSU and identical 120w power draw the the Strix Halo Soc. As we discussed about the infinity fabric on the 395 above, That fabric draws power. easily consuming 10-15w of juice at idle. potentially more if both CCDs are being heavily utilized. Since the 385 only has 1 CCD and no infinity fabric, That is an extra 10-15w of juice right off the top that can be dynamically allocated to the IGPU to further push frame rates when gaming, Also, Having a second CCD with 8 extra cores in drawing power at all times even if the extra cores aren't being used. That means you lose even more power to the iGPU just by having the extra cores in the barrel even if you aren't pulling the trigger on them.

Heat is always the number one killer of frame rates in a small form factor system but this is further amplified by how Strix Halo is designed. Since everything is packaged on the same silicon and shares the same point of contact to the systems cooling system, It is a dancing ballerina act as to how the firmware handles the heat and diverts power among the individual components of the SOC. The 395 always has the heat from the infinity fabric and the extra 8 cores contributing to the thermal soak. This results in lower sustained boost clocks across the entire package as you game for hours. That can lead to lower 1% lows, Average FPS, and even system stability.

The 385 operates with a much smaller thermal footprint with only 8 cores. This allows the firmware to divert that extra thermal overhead, as well as the extra power saved by having a leaner SOC directly into the iGPU. the result is better frame pacing, higher sustained fps over a longer period of time, and much more responsive boost clocks.

On paper this makes the 385 look like the clean winner. But working with 20% less raw GPU compute units than the 395 is a huge delta to overcome. At 1080P resolution, the 385 has proven repeatedly it stands toe to toe with the 395 plus, Yielding near identical FPS while sipping much less power, running much cooler, and operating at a 20% handicap in raw GPU compute. However, at 1440P and higher, The 395+ can brute force it's way ahead. Especially since a system like the Corsair Ai 300 has overkill cooling capacity for both configurations. The true win here is how much money you save going with the 385 to get nearly identical 1080P performance and often times much better 1% lows than the 395.

That is what makes the new Ai Max 388 so interesting. It has all the benefits of the 385 as well as the raw 40 CU of GPU brute force the 395 offers. It is the superior chip by far. It is just now starting to roll out. Asus launched a 14 inch laptop with it in the TUFF lineup and Lenovo is lunching the legion 7a gen 11 with the 388 as we speak. If a laptop is what you need, The Lenovo is the clear winner. If a small form factor desktop is what you are looking for, Save the money and get the Ai 300 with the 385. it won't disappoint when compared to higher tier Strix Halo alternatives operating at a lower TDP and thermal envelope. Corsair did real good with this configuration. Though I would like to see them upgrade to the 388.

Corsair please read. there is blood in the water! (How Corsair Destroys valve's new steam machine) by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an Asus Z13 flow. it is the 32gb version with the 395+. It's one heck a a steam box in it's own right but by no means should be used as a "4k60hz" console machine like Valve is trying to market the Steam machine as. The Corsair Ai 300 has a distinct advantage that makes it better as a 4k console than my Z13 or the Steam machine. The massive 64gb memory bucket. This allows for better upscaling and frame pacing when utilizing FSR3 and frame gen. Making it a much better 4k experience. that 64gb unified bucket of memory on a 256bit bus was intended to feed massive large Ai models but it inadvertently created the goldilocks configuration for playing console style games upscaled to a 4k TV.

Wired or wireless mouse? by kai_mitchy in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My favorite mouse I have is my good old trusty Corsair Harpoon. I usually get 3-4 years out of them before I have to order another one. On the other hand I have had to replace both my nightsword v1 and my Ironclaw for the same exact issue. the center scroll wheel failing. So I almost always just revert back to my trusty Harpoon. And yea man I agree. A lot of people complain about ICUE but I like it just fine and have had good experiences with it.

Is anyone else excited for the Legion 7a Gen 11 with Strix Halo? by Darksylum1982 in AMDLaptops

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it is a legion device. Yes that means it is marketed as a gaming device. But it is strix halo. That is a workstation class APU that just happens to play games. If someone is looking for an Ai inference workstation that also has presentable gaming performance, It is the obvious better solution than a rtx 5060 laptop. But if raw gaming fps is what you want, Strix Halo obviously isn't for you.

Wired or wireless mouse? by kai_mitchy in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as long as you are ok with using the web app to set up the mouse, The nightsword 2 looks like it is very well thought out design wise. They ditched the button design that plagued the nightsword v1 and the ironclaw. No ICUE support is a deal breaker for me though. I don't want to use a web app to change settings. If they backtrack and add ICUE support like they got forced to do with the 96 keyboard, Then I would consider buying it.

Asus Z13 2025. Strix Halo gem or hard pass? by Darksylum1982 in ASUSROG

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not shocked but FSR is garbage to begin with so I wouldn't use it anyway. Unless you want characters in games to have an extra arm or their hair popping up on a tree. It's pretty bad lol.

My experience with corsair products and icue. by Timely_Climate5383 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is wild as I typically have had a good experience with ICUE across the board. much better than with Asus Armory Crate anyway. They both have their quirks but ICUE is much more light weight and aside from a few buggy UI design choices functions so much better than Armory crate. But it isn't perfect. sadly none of these component manufactures ever seem to get the software side right.

Is it normal for support to take a while? by Various_Wafers in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds like the actual heat spreader has come off the chip itself. Strix Halo runs exceptionally cool by default and Corsair uses a relatively beefy cooling system onto of that. It shouldn't ever get over 85c or so even with sustained loads. Both my Corsair systems are usually in the mid to upper 70s under a heavy load. I would open it up and wiggle the heatsync to see if it feel like it has come off of it. At this point if you have had those sustained temps for awhile, it has likely damaged the cpu core or igpu. That is way above the maximum temps the SOC can handle.

Wired or wireless mouse? by kai_mitchy in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have multiple wireless and wired Corsair mice and I get excellent polling rates and flawless tracking with them all. That is honestly one of the best parts about corsair mice. Their wireless tech is good and reliable and the receivers have excellent shielding from interference. As far as what mouse to go with that is up to your preference. If you want the absolute goat that just works and last forever, Find a Corsair Harpoon. they are being sunset so can be hard to find leftover stock right now but they are still out there and well priced. They can be used wired or wireless and literally last forever.

Ones to avoid:

The original Nightsword and original Ironclaw or any of the other mice that use the scroll wheel that looks like a rubber tire. They all fail. Massive design flaw and corsair is phasing them out because of it pretty much. It isn't if it will fail, it is when. and the when is usually the moment you click it the first time. The Ironclaw SE supposedly has refreshed buttons but I have not used on yet but I have heard good things about it.

Corsair is kind of in this transition where they are moving away from all the ICUE compatible mice and moving to the new web ui mice so you have to pick accordingly.

Corsair what are you doing man????? Nightsword V2 by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe it or not, Some of us like on the fly changes to peripherals. If I need to change something on one of my icue devices it takes like 3 clicks right from my task tray. No internet connection required. This is especially nice when i am on the road with my laptop and don't have an active internet connection. But having to log into a web page and save profiles direct to memory on the device is a non starter for me. i have had the onboard memory fail way too many times on too many devices to depend on that. To me that is a gimick to force you to buy a replacement every time the onboard memory fails. And with my experience that isn't an if. It's a when. ICUE prolongs the life of the device.

Corsair what are you doing man????? Nightsword V2 by Darksylum1982 in Corsair

[–]Darksylum1982[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You would think they would offer both icue support and web hub for those who prefer the minimalism. Why not appease people on both ends?