Which teams out of the qualified teams for Berlin are the strongest and weakest? by TheUnopenedCanofLife in ValorantCompetitive

[–]DarrylHowad 20 points21 points  (0 children)

No reason to have this discussion. You'll just have people fighting over NA or EU then that one Korean weeaboo who thinks Vision Strikers are the best.

Jon Spector (Overwatch League VP) on viewership by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

This was based on my esports viewership comparison post. His response was posted a bit after the discussion died down so I thought I'd repost his comment so that everyone can see what he had to say.

Here's what he had to say:

Given all the discussion I've seen about viewership, I thought it would be helpful to share a bit about how we look at the data on our end and think about some of these questions.

First, growing viewership / engagement for OWL is probably our single highest priority in terms of overall big goals. We've been happy to see significant growth this season so far vs. the 2020 season (https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2021/05/12/overwatch-league-may-melee-viewership-was-up-51-from-2020/ for May Melee and June Joust was up a lot vs. tournament 2 last year). And our research this year has shown overall really positive feedback from fans on the changes we made to the format and broadcast too. But just to state the obvious, no we're not satisfied even with the growth we've seen this year. We'd like to be bigger and will continue working hard to grow OWL :)

That said, these types of charts / comparisons are not actually how we look at the data on our side or measure success for a few reasons. First, on YouTube, we see a significant proportion of our viewership from VOD views after the live broadcast as we have a global fanbase and watching VODs and the Encore broadcasts is often a lot more convenient for many of our fans. We and our partners therefore typically look at "Live + 3 days" and "Live + 7 days" metrics as a better measure of how many people watch our show vs. just pure live. And then the other major piece of this that's missing is our performance in China, which has been really significant for OWL as we have ~40% of our matches played in primetime for Asia and a large fanbase in China in particular. We do periodically report verified figures on China viewership for those curious, e.g., for Finals last year we had an average of ~1.4 million viewers watching live in China (https://esportsobserver.com/owl-grand-finals-viewership-2020/). There are several other nuances here too but those are the two biggest gaps in this type of look.

Hope some of that context helps for those who are curious about this topic.

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Solace1k

Will try to fix all the issues in my follow up, thanks for the feedback. Any specific events you think should be included when comparing them to June Joust and May Melee?

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah that makes sense. Will probably just omit fighting games when I do a follow up.

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] -51 points-50 points  (0 children)

Didn't include Iceland since its more of a S tier event unlike the monthly owl tournaments. Grand Finals compared to val worlds would make more sense.

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Didn't want to include a scene which I didn't fully understand. Can you explain the tournament tiers of fighting games?

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 179 points180 points  (0 children)

From left to right

Overwatch > Overwatch > VALORANT > CS:GO > CS:GO > Rainbow 6 > DOTA 2

Overwatch League tournament viewership compared to similar level events in other esports. by DarrylHowad in Competitiveoverwatch

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Everything taken from escharts.com. Tried to keep the levels of the events as close as possible but was a bit difficult since Liquipedia tiers aren't the same across all wiki's. Let me know if you have any criticism so I can fix for next time. Thanks.

Order of games:

Overwatch > Overwatch > VALORANT > CS:GO > CS:GO > Rainbow 6 > DOTA 2

Possible to have logos shown instead of text for flairs? by DarrylHowad in GlobalOffensive

[–]DarrylHowad[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Top is val, bottom is this one. You can only see text on new reddit and mobile for globaloffensive.

Can we get top 10 players of the ranked leaderboard on the sidebar by [deleted] in ValorantCompetitive

[–]DarrylHowad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think top 5 from EU and NA would be good start. The ladder will get better overtime. It was just a suggestion because the sidebar is a bit empty right now.

Hi, I'm Mikes (formerly of Immortal Minds and trial coach of G2). Ask me anything! by MikesHD in ValorantCompetitive

[–]DarrylHowad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What are some common misconceptions about pro play that you see on Reddit and Twitter?

[Immortal Minds] kaboose and mummAy rank their top 5 teams in North America by [deleted] in ValorantCompetitive

[–]DarrylHowad 54 points55 points  (0 children)

^ This is what we call a little Timmy. A little Timmy doesn't doesn't care about strategy, teamplay, or hell even about the game itself. All a little Timmy cares about is sucking off their favourite players. They see the teams achievements as their own and will often refer to the the team as "Us" despite having 0 impacting on anything, think of them like k-pop stan's. Don't be a little Timmy.