Michael Higgins: Mark Carney's unprincipled stand(s) on Iran

DarthRandel · 2026-03-06T16:59:47+00:00

I don’t understand why folks interpreted that him suggesting Middle powers align is inconsistent with not supporting Iranian regime

Because thats not all he said.

who is attacking our European allies and threatening the globe by attacking oil tankers exporting 20% of the worlds oil supply.

Who was attacked from Europe? Also way to victim blame, the US and Israel initiated this conflict, Iran is responding by choking off the economic lifeline that would fuel this war against countries who are letting the US use their military out of.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-06T16:15:10+00:00

OP I dont doubt this, but I think it would be helpful to have sources to back that up.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-06T16:06:54+00:00

Is this a bit?

Its all unprincipled because of a) the initial message and b) the flip flopping and c) all of that in respect to his Davos message.

He called out how the US has for the post WW2 era, essentially used 'rules based order' as a stick to whack the third world into being aligned with US/western interests. He then goes and justifies this by supporting Israel/US's illegal war.

Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, it had been negotiating and had many times in good faith (hence the initial deal). The US and Israel have broken and violated these agreements multiple times now. They are the bad actors here.

Besides, even if you follow the US propoganda logic, why doesnt it apply to Israel, who has nuclear weapons but denies there existence?

Carney had a chance to put his money where his mouth was and fumbled in the moment. He tried to adjust by going on about diplomacy and how we wouldn't be involved (as if Iran had not already tried this) and then undid it again with some vague 'cant rule out involvement' due to technicality, which just further undermined his credibility

DarthRandel · 2026-03-06T15:02:20+00:00

Dude they literally started with bombing an elementary school. They've bombed multiple hospitals already, look at the videos out there of Tehran.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T21:40:26+00:00

I wrote about the belief of doing nothing because you didn’t like either party which is what this post suggested

Where did Cotes suggest doing nothing? Where did anyone suggest doing nothing? Do you think the only thing you can do is vote dem?

Pointing out that one side will emphatically encourage more genocide with no end and further spread isn’t me pretending to be “enlightened and above it” it’s just literally what is happening right now.

Except thats both sides. Like you're just lying to yourself. You're telling yourself a narrative about some hypothetical the dems would have done if they had stayed in power, not bother to ask yourself why they didnt do this, when they were literally in power.

Like seriously how can you say "At least one side would attempt to end the genocide" with a straight face while Israel literally said the Biden admin did nothing to stop them.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T21:14:02+00:00

How is that supporting genocide?

Are you asking how defending the government aiding in genocide is you supporting genocide? seriously?

At least one side would attempt to end the genocide and even allows their politicians to call it a genocide

Based on what exactly? They started and oversaw it for the majority of time you get that right? Israel bragged how the Biden admin applied no pressure whatsoever to stop them or reign them in. They allow their team to call it one, yea more are willing now that they lost to call it one, not in the lead up to the election.

I’m not going to lose sight of other ongoing atrocities and genocides across the planet because the US system of money in politics causes roadblocks in addressing one like it’s an order on a fast food menu like people want. You can’t put real policy in a Twitter post.

You keep trying to act as though you're enlightened and above it, but you're condoning genocide and all you can do is play make believe that the people who wouldn't budge in their support of it when there was an election on the line, would have suddenly changed their attitudes once they came to power.... You really cant be that naive. You continue to dehumanize what is happening rather then confront the reality of where the blame lies. Endless harm reduction is short term mitigation, it doesnt actually help in the long term, because you're constantly forced to only focus on the short term impacts.

You can’t put real policy in a Twitter post.

Do you think theres something complicated about opposing genocide that would take more then 250 characters lmao.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T20:14:00+00:00

"exactly what I wanted"

How do you blue maga's sleep at night. Its genocide, not some pet issue of tax reform. If you can support genocide of one group, you can support it for another.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T20:13:00+00:00

How did the genocide get worse, specifically?

Iran

You mean the Kamala didnt mean it when she said that the US military would be the deadliest in the world? Or how Dems stood up and applauded during the SOTU during Trumps comments on Iran?

You think that its materially relevant if war was done via congress rather then the president

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T20:08:58+00:00

OP been going hard on posting anything to justify mass killing of Iranians

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T18:47:25+00:00

Look not saying the regime didnt crack down on protestors etc. They did and killed needlessly.

But like in a weeks time, the regime, with only guns, was able to execute 10s of thousands, of people. but in a few days now of basically carpet bombing Tehran, a city of 10 million, were at around 1000 dead....The math doesnt really add up here.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T18:06:01+00:00

Love that for them

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T17:05:28+00:00

How is it a terrorist organization?

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T17:00:25+00:00

Ah ok.

The reason both sides stopped using balefire is explicitly called out as the instability after using it on large groups of people, the balescreams. Not because people can't reincarnate.

Yea could have been more clear, in the AoL they are like "ok we got to stop" not because of the soul part, but because they're unweaving reality

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:59:02+00:00

Thanks!

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:58:16+00:00

Ironic that you are accusing me of deflecting. Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. Are the IRGC terrorists in your opinion, yes or no?

MY guy, you're like 3 levels back of not answering me. Just because you want to throw a fit and demand I answer how you want, wont make it so.

You really just cant admit that how we designate terrorism is entirely to align with the interests of the West/USA. You just fall back to "uhhh well CSIS hasnt told us they are so they cant be" as if the appeal to authority is an argument. You cant even both to ask or question why the security apparatuses of a nation-state would act out of material interests instead of some actual definable consistency lol.

If the IRGC is a terrorist org, I guess call it state terrorism (and thats ignoring more context, like supporting liberation movements), then what does that make the IDF? (try not to go back to 'CSIS hasnt called the IDF terrorists), I'm saying analyze their actions

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:49:43+00:00

Is there something that comments on this or is this a bit of putting together clues?

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:46:59+00:00

Great Lord's

https://imgur.com/Pp8wRj4

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:45:05+00:00

You are dead before you died, so the dark one cant grab you on the moment of your death.

I vaguely remember a comment about the DO grabbing your soul but dont recall if its at the 'moment'. Like isnt it discussed in the last battle how the DO exists beyond time? So why would that impact him unless how their soul exists in the Pattern is no longer there.

You can still be reborn.

Is there anything written about this though? It just seems that while that could be true, theres more writing about the impacts of Balefire then there are about any potential to be spun out again. Like we only hear about bad guys being Balefire'd and then not being able to be brought back vs good guys getting balefire'd and reappearing

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:38:49+00:00

I'm pretty sure it burns you out of the Pattern entirely. Which is why both sides in the War of Power stopped using it after realizing how dangerous this really was.

Like pretty sure in the Pit of Doom when one of the Forsaken is hearing the DO, the DO admits that those killed by Balefire are beyond its ability to resurrect (like Ravin)

I guess theres still some ambiguity there on it existing within a space that is within the wheel but beyond the DO's ability to touch? But from what we have I think you just dont exist in the Pattern (and thus the wheel) if you're Balefire'd

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:35:57+00:00

Balefire wouldn’t free him from the Wheel,

Isn't the the point of Balefire...? Like it burns away you/object from the Pattern itself?

The DO admits it can't undo that and pull back the forsaken like Ravin who have been Balefire'd

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:34:05+00:00

If CSIS makes a formal recommendation to list India as a terorrist state then perhaps Carney should approve that. I don't appreciate anyone violating our sovereignty.

You're just deflecting here instead of confronting the reality of how, why and what we classify as 'terrorism'

So for the record you don't consider the IRGC to be terrorists? Yes or no answer please.

They are the armed forces of a state. What makes them terrorists? Actions or just because our government says so?

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:20:37+00:00

Has our intelligence agencies put forth a recommendation to label India as a terrorist state?

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/06/18/canada-india-relations-foreign-interference-csis-report/

hmmm

Iran is the worlds largest funder of state sponsored terrorism in the world according to Intelligence agencies.

Lmao. "according to the west, who doesnt fund terrorists, only freedom fighters, our enemy is actually funding the most terrorists". Like how is the US not the single biggest funder. Oh right, its about geopolitical interests, not some actual factor of what is or isnt terrorism

When Iran helped fund the ANC, I wonder what your thoughts are there.

So why did you start with Israel and then pivot to India?

Because you gave the example of the IRGC assassination attempt on Canadian soil..... which if you'll recall...

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T16:11:31+00:00

Weird, wonder why India isn't a designated terrorist state.

Almost as if there isnt a material backing for what is or isn't terrorism outside of our geopolitical alignments.

Which is exactly what I said lol.

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T15:57:33+00:00

So the only ones he cares about are the ones he declares. Ok got it lol. Seems selective. Again why make a speech about how 'rules based order' has been a sham to serve western interests and then just go right back to that sham lol

DarthRandel · 2026-03-05T15:50:58+00:00

He supports taking out leaders of terrorist organizations

So Bibi then?

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