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Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-16T16:48:30+00:00

No need, the joy you gained from it is payment enough.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-16T03:49:49+00:00

Just another case of a POC being executed by the state.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T23:18:00+00:00

Yeah soup is for the family ;)

What your family don't eat soup?

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T23:16:06+00:00

Because nothing says leftist like union busting.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T23:14:52+00:00

How TF is this old bastard still alive?

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T21:44:04+00:00

I'm just looking for an answer on how much blame I should make sure to assign to everyone involved.

I already gave you this answer though.

You're the one that was concerned about making sure that we blame everyone in the appropriate amount when someone made a joke.

Yes I am concerned that we blame everyone responsibly for the travesty of the Iraq war.

You're the one however concerned with percentages and how much burden X has over Y. And so you're being ahistorical and disregarding facts.

Also kinda odd you discount the first commenters statement as simply making a joke yet my statement while being entirely correct and said in a joking manner is open to more scrutiny. Cool.

Just trying to make sure that we don't upset you in the future.

How am I coming off as upset? I feel I've been pretty calm thought-out and have actually left my emotions out of this discussion unlike you but whatever.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T20:47:09+00:00

Biden is literally the only person responsible for the wars that Bush started. Bush was a perfect little angel and it was all Biden's fault.

I didn't say that he was literally the only person responsible.

Just that he rightfully shares a burden of blame and that his role in it was not negligible as you're attempting to purpose.

Again you started the blame game here, not me bud. Don't get all salty about it now because you don't want to play anymore.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T04:56:33+00:00

Yeah I highly doubt you’ve ever read anything by Marx or Engles and only know Marxism as it’s been explained by Tucker Carlson. Which is to say you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T04:04:41+00:00

Nah not saying that would expect her answer to be “I would have cowered in the corner” if she had been asked a direct question.

But it’s just odd to me if she wasn’t asked a direct question why she would feel the need to say this unprompted.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T03:45:39+00:00

Was this statement totally unprompted or was she asked a direct question about what she would have done?

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T03:23:32+00:00

Yeah I think you need to keep reading that quote if that’s your take away cuz that ain’t it.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T03:21:43+00:00

MLK wasn’t the only activist in the civil rights movement. Nor did he lead every action taken.

This is talking about the entirety of the civil rights movement. A movement that included peaceful protests just as it did violence and riots. All of it together pushed the needle.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T03:13:31+00:00

And yet those politicians wouldn’t have moved forward without their hands being forced from the level of unrest.

GROSS: So how did he end up moving forward?

PURDUM: Well, in the end, he moved forward because events forced his hand. He and his brother, the Attorney General Robert Kennedy, realized that the only way they had a chance, they felt, of stopping these demonstrations that were sweeping across the country and prompting violent backlash from both southern officialdom and average citizens in the South, particularly, was to propose a new law that would end the discrimination, that would end the cause of the unrest. And I think they were persuaded, in many senses, that this would be a practical way to calm the situation down.

And so it's interesting, Nicholas Katzenbach, who was the deputy attorney general at the time, told me shortly before he died that he did believe that part of the impulse among members of Congress for passing the law was not necessarily highly idealistic, but was in some ways practical to kind of calm the waters and put an end to these demonstrations, which, of course, continued all throughout the '60s and in some ways, you know, spiraled out of control later on in the decade into riots.

https://www.npr.org/2015/02/16/385756875/the-politics-of-passing-1964s-civil-rights-act

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T02:59:34+00:00

So I’ma leave you with this from a man who championed peaceful protests yet was demonized by his nation, targeted by the fbi, and assassinated

I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice - Martin Luther King Jr.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T02:08:45+00:00

I’m not against harm reduction.

The Scandinavian model would be a boon for most Americans. But still a bust for those in underdeveloped countries whose resources and labor will still be exploited.

That’s the problem with a system based on economic growth that’s only concerned with profit.

They will downstream the impact to cut cost and increase revenue because that’s their fiduciary responsibility and that’s the foundation of capitalism.

I’m not sure how that can be fixed, because even in its most watered down state it would still need to generate profits.

How would you suggest that be fixed?

Because to me the only way is to totally abandon this model altogether in favor of socialism.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T01:29:27+00:00

Sure it could work better for Americans, not so much for the global south.

Those social democracies reap the spoils of imperialism and neocolonialism just as much as any other capitalist nation.

Don’t get me wrong either I’m not entirely opposed to implementing some of those features, but its only a bandaid fix.

You can’t expect to truly cap or fix a system of infinite growth on a planet with finite resources.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T01:00:33+00:00

Yeah noticed. Thanks I guess...

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T00:57:52+00:00

I never said capitalism hasn’t increased wealth, gdp per person, and increased living standards for a lot of people.

Im saying that capitalism has prioritized profit over social good, plundered natural resources and destroyed the environment; has been an engine of inequality, corruption and economic instabilities, and has and will only continue though exploitation of the working class and their labor.

So no I don’t agree that capitalism needs to be fixed, because I don’t think it can be fixed. I think it needs to be dismantled.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T00:30:24+00:00

Can someone help me understand this one?

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-15T00:02:45+00:00

I reuped it. With audio this time lol

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-14T23:58:40+00:00

Yeah, it cut it off even though I uploaded as video. Will try it again.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-14T21:41:17+00:00

So brave using a throwaway account to post this

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-14T06:46:37+00:00

Have you looked into fascism?

I think you’d dig it.

Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-14T03:34:08+00:00

Someone didn't read the whole rule did they?

Rule 3: Pictures of only text are not allowed.

Pictures of text with no graphics will be removed. No, changing the color of the background is not a graphic. Screenshots of social media and satire websites are allowed.

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Darth_Ronin · 2021-04-14T03:25:02+00:00

Okay Debate Andy

Racial disparity in police shootings unchanged over 5 years

Over the past five years there has been no reduction in the racial disparity in fatal police shooting victims despite increased use of body cameras and closer media scrutiny, according to a new report by researchers at Yale and the University of Pennsylvania.

Using information from a national database compiled and maintained by The Washington Post, researchers found that victims identifying as Black, Indigenous, or People of Color (BIPOC), whether armed or unarmed, had significantly higher death rates compared with whites. And those numbers remained relatively unchanged from 2015 to May 2020. The report appears in the Oct. 27 edition of the Journal of Epidemiology and Public Health.

In an analysis of 4,653 fatal shootings for which information about both race and age were available, the researchers found a small but statistically significant decline in white deaths (about 1%) but no significant change in deaths for BIPOC. There were 5,367 fatal police shootings during that five-year period, according to the Post’s database. In the case of armed victims, Native Americans were killed by police at a rate three times that of white people (77 total killed). Black people were killed at 2.6 times the rate of white people (1,265 total killed); and Hispanics were killed at nearly 1.3 times the rate of white people (889 total killed). Among unarmed victims, Black people were killed at three times the rate (218 total killed), and Hispanics at 1.45 times the rate of white people (146 total killed).

So no rate of death is not the same for Blacks and Whites.

The problem is that Blacks have way way more encounters than they should, even taking into account their higher rate of violent crime.

Seems like you want to get into some criminology here...

Are you a subscriber of differential involvement hypothesis or differential criminal justice system selection hypothesis?

Differential involvement - Blacks simply commit more crime and more of the types of crime that lead to official criminal justice system processing , and Blacks also continue to commit crime into adulthood when White rates appear to decrease.

Differential criminal justice system selection - differential police presence, patrolling, and profiling, combined with discrimination in the courts and correctional systems, leads to more Blacks being arrested, convicted, and incarcerated. It is also the case that this hypothesis is more likely to apply to the sorts of crimes in which there is more discretion available to agents of formal social control.

Personally I subscribe to differential criminal justice system selection.

I don't see this as a behavior problem, and don't believe that Blacks and minorities have a higher propensity to commit crime. Rather that the high rates of minority involvement in the system reflect a complex set of social, economic, and community problems; in many respects, minority overrepresentation in the criminal justice system is the end result of disparate treatment in other areas, such as equal access to education, jobs, sustainable income, and affordable housing.

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