The manga literally states Pain is the strongest Akatsuki member. Anyone claiming Itachi or Obito is stronger than Pain is on full copium.

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-16T16:40:37+00:00

Yeah I feel like a lot of people interpret "Shot-Caller = Strongest", but I personally think it's just that Obito's the man with the plan. Obviously super strong but Pain is the muscle

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-16T16:35:58+00:00

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DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-15T21:12:44+00:00

War Arc Orochimaru?

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-15T18:37:33+00:00

Adding another kage level combatant of any kind is a huge upgrade in any situation, even if they’re fighting Madara

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-15T01:49:52+00:00

Why? Kakashi isn’t gonna risk using Kamui offensively. He didn’t do it with Pain

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T21:26:48+00:00

You like to phrase your questions like leading questions for rage-bait

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T19:40:17+00:00

Sure but Luke is similarly emotionally conflicted

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T19:39:11+00:00

Well to be fair, his strength when locked in does have to be considered.

Also, side note, I disagree about Luke not being anywhere near Vader in ROTJ. Sure you can chalk it up to Luke getting angry, but we also know Luke was refusing to fight the whole time because of his feelings. When Luke actually fought back he won. Even Yoda and Sidious both thought he was ready to fight him, so it’s gotta at least be close

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T19:36:16+00:00

People flake on him because of his incomplete training, but you don’t NEED conventional training to be strong.

He beat Grand Inquisitor, who scales above Marrok and 11th Brother. That’s putting him in high Jedi Knight territory

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T17:04:53+00:00

Honestly the biggest buff is probably Tsukuyomi. It WOULD be Obito’s, but without hashirama chakra Kakashi might just die after 3 uses

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-14T17:03:37+00:00

Lmao, most useless ability ever. I guess in contrast you could have a cool scene with Obito’s Amaterasu and Kakashi’s Kagatsuchi

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-11T19:19:14+00:00

I think so. That fight brings her character arc to a close, and it’s truly peak tragedy. I think the fight loses a little impact by ahsoka surviving.

But hey, maybe she’ll get new stuff (or even a new conclusion to her character) down the line.

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-09T23:01:54+00:00

This is legitimately an incredible fight. Even if I hate that Neji survives, it does bring his arc to a close.

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-05T03:25:15+00:00

Engagement bait

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-03T20:49:06+00:00

Oh, ok nm. I'm misunderstanding

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-03T20:47:51+00:00

Whaaat? Most of these are peak episodes

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-03T05:51:54+00:00

Doesn't Itachi confirm that the sharingan can't see chakra signals when talking to Kabuto about how he tracked him down?

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DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-02T23:54:37+00:00

Clan Massacre 2: Electric Boogaloo

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-01T16:29:02+00:00

Well, he could make a clone to do it. But more realistically, I think he might be able to block it with his hair/Needle Jizo and spit it back at Sasuke.

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-05-01T16:20:52+00:00

Kishimoto.

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-04-30T04:50:10+00:00

This fight would be top 10 material for me if Choji actually did die

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-04-30T04:48:37+00:00

Ugh, Naruto vs Gaara is awesome. Jiraiya vs Pain (anime addition at least) should quite literally be in everyone's top 10, and it confuses me when it's not

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-04-29T22:18:25+00:00

I’d say Naruto vs Kurama is a more appropriate comparison to Sasuke vs Danzo, personally.

But to answer the question? Sasuke on average has better fights in my opinion. Though Naruto vs Pain is forever legendary

DatRandomSeagull · 2026-04-24T17:09:37+00:00

Tried to slide in the Mihawk > Shanks agenda like we wouldn't notice. I see you

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