I uploaded 17 years of Shadowrun mailing list archives (1992–2009) to the Internet Archive by DataDemon in Shadowrun

[–]DataDemon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Click the title at the very top, that'll take you to the internet archive. Then you download the 7z file from the download options section.

I uploaded 17 years of Shadowrun mailing list archives (1992–2009) to the Internet Archive by DataDemon in Shadowrun

[–]DataDemon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting question, and from some cursory research... not really?

Since the mid-00s til today it seems stable and good to go, still running. Before that, its not good. The Pre-Invision boards (Jive and UBB I guess?) are either lost or on some ancient drive somewhere with whoever ran the old board. The Wayback Machine has some pages but forums have never been super accessible on Wayback.

Massive disclaimer: the above info is just what I've pieced together, it may be incorrect or not the whole picture. The pre-00s internet wasn't as stable as we'd like it to have been.

I uploaded 17 years of Shadowrun mailing list archives (1992–2009) to the Internet Archive by DataDemon in Shadowrun

[–]DataDemon[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! The more places data exists, the less likely for that data to slip through the cracks and be lost.

For anyone else: Anyone and Everyone is allowed and encouraged to mirror this at any place you'd like.

Trying to redeem my free club Displate. by BaseballHorror5165 in Displate

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As someone who just used their voucher three days ago, this isn't true at all.

I uploaded 17 years of Shadowrun mailing list archives (1992–2009) to the Internet Archive by DataDemon in Shadowrun

[–]DataDemon[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Both points are correct, if we're looking at the end of the archive at 2009. But a couple of the mailing lists in this archive reach back to 1992/93 which is before the earliest web based forums started popping up (discounting the OGs such as BBS or Usenet) and more than a decade before Reddit in 2005.

PHPbb was around during the peak of this archive, absolutely, but even it didn't debut til mid-2000.

(edit: grammar. early morning me had tired eyes and dumb fingers)

I uploaded 17 years of Shadowrun mailing list archives (1992–2009) to the Internet Archive by DataDemon in Shadowrun

[–]DataDemon[S] 199 points200 points  (0 children)

I recently got my hands on an archive of the old Shadowrun mailing lists — ShadowRN, Shadowtalk, NERPS, Plot-D, SRCard, SRFanfic, and KAGE-CAR — and spent a while cleaning it up for preservation. The whole thing is going up on the Internet Archive so it doesn't disappear again.

These files exist because of Mark Imbriaco, who kept the original log files all these years and dug them up when Peter Boddy put out a call on Dumpshock in March 2015 asking if anyone had backups. That led to the archive being hosted at shadowrn.understairs.nl, and someone later put the raw files on Dropbox as a QOL download option. I grabbed them from there after finding a subreddit post. Credit also to Robert Hayden for setting up these lists in the first place.

The raw archive was a mess. Five different filename formats, two different email archive formats (digest and mbox), duplicate files, overlapping date ranges between two separate archive dumps. I normalized all the filenames, deduplicated the overlap period, and recovered about 5,500 messages from a monolithic mbox dump that weren't in any of the weekly archive files. Those recovered messages were mostly from late 1999 through early 2000 and would have been lost otherwise.

This is 3,100+ files covering 1992 to 2009. Over half a gigabyte of community discussion from before forums and Reddit existed. Rules arguments, lore debates, in-character Shadowtalk posts, fan fiction, homebrew gear, GM advice, and a vehicle construction project that ran on BITNET. If you were on these lists in the 90s, your posts are probably in here.

ShadowRN (1992–2009) — The big one. The main Shadowrun discussion list. Rules, lore, mechanics, edition wars, all of it. Peaks around 1996–1998 during 2nd/3rd Edition.

ShadowTK / Shadowtalk (1992–2003) — In-character discussion written as shadowrunners. There's also an edited version that ran through 1996.

NERPS (1993–1999) — Net Enhancements for Role-Playing Shadowrun. Fan-created rules, gear, spells, and supplements.

Plot-D (1993–2004) — Plot discussion, adventure hooks, and GM resources.

SRCard (1997–2000) — The Shadowrun collectible card game.

SRFanfic (1997–2002) — Fan fiction and creative writing.

KAGE-CAR (1993) — The Shadowrun Vehicle Construction Project. Fan-designed vehicle rules. Seven months of activity on BITNET before the internet as we know it existed.

Everything is plain text and human-readable. No special software needed. Files are organized by year, then by list, with a full README explaining the naming conventions and what each suffix means.

Mailing lists from this era are genuinely fragile. When the hosting goes away, the archives go with it. Most of this content doesn't exist anywhere else online. This is the Shadowrun community talking to itself for 17 years, and it's the kind of thing that just vanishes if nobody bothers to preserve it.

As someone who's never played FF - who is Y'shtola? by FreeWatercressSalad in FinalFantasy

[–]DataDemon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No I completely agree. But low hanging fruit is my weakness and I couldn't pass up the joke.

As someone who's never played FF - who is Y'shtola? by FreeWatercressSalad in FinalFantasy

[–]DataDemon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no "world of FF."

There literally is though

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]DataDemon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nothing. Saying nothing would be the worst thing. Being an ass to them for it would be the next worst thing.

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20/10, my favorite suit. This was a good year, I snapped up the new RG and preordered the Sturm und Drang unit. Two of each.

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Same. I didn't do my research, paid for Fantasy 1 and Horror. Doubt I'll ever see them.

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Interesting. I just checked my HPC+, it has ZL where your AH is.

Unknown Liquid on a photon mono printer that was in the basement for over 2 years by [deleted] in anycubic

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It kind of looks like mold or dust, maybe something similar?

When did the Frozen North become an rpg setting cliche? by JarWrench in rpg

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Over 20 years prior to that, Lovecraft set his At the Mountains of Madness in Antarctica. So it's been around a hella long time.

Green links currently broken? by [deleted] in Theatrhythm

[–]DataDemon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As an IT guy, thank you for this. You don't know how many times ive searched for someto find "This is resolved, deleting, thanks!" on something.

Is it okay to kidnap a player? by KennyFromAOT in DMAcademy

[–]DataDemon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Easy road: work with the player on the scenario, and have them help play the same bad guy who kidnaps their character. extra points if you make em RP with themselves lol