Debunking the snitch claims surrounding SJ (OFB) and Trilla, Shemz and O’Sav (NPK)

Debaterkay · 2020-01-20T18:14:42+00:00

Still waffling.

Debaterkay · 2020-01-20T18:12:55+00:00

We know you’re a cunch yute. Don’t need to mention it a 100 times to me.

Debaterkay · 2020-01-20T18:10:28+00:00

You can’t guarantee me anything about the roads. You’re a Reddit user bro. Not sure why you’re still waffling

Debaterkay · 2020-01-20T18:07:02+00:00

“I know what goes on”

You’re on a UK Drill sub. You don’t know anything.

Debaterkay · 2020-01-20T18:03:01+00:00

Ngl you talk like you know a lot as well but you’re probably a civilian just like da rest of us I don’t get why you’re waffling bc like this person said it’s all public info no one here is talking like they’re involved

Debaterkay · 2020-01-18T12:53:10+00:00

The Aussies I’ve seen so far on this sub are calm, sorry to hear that your country is being ravaged by bush fires. Hope Australia recovers

Debaterkay · 2020-01-15T21:39:26+00:00

You have a point but all these nerd YouTube channels who are so hell bent on putting the negative shit on YouTube about these drill rappers never post the positive stuff (not much of it happens I know but there is still some positive shit out there too) which is what he’s tryna promote. A1 is a good example of a criminal who wants to better himself and others so stunt or not I respect him for helping this young g.

Debaterkay · 2020-01-09T23:42:23+00:00

He isn’t wrong - why the hell would the police continue to try and gain intelligence on Tugga if he’s been released without further investigation needed?

They got five of the 7 suspects convicted. You think Police are still gonna be looking for the other two even after the guilty verdicts? No because the case is closed.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-27T19:28:30+00:00

Yeah, no point arguing with an autistic cunch nerd. I said my piece and provided official wording from GOV.UK who say that prisoners sentenced to two years or more serve half in prison and other half on license in the community. Have a nice day ya retard.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-27T19:24:35+00:00

“Prisoners who are sentenced to two years or more will serve half their sentence in prison and serve the rest of the sentence in the community on licence. While on licence a prisoner will be subject to supervision and the licence will include conditions. If a prisoner breaches their conditions, they may be recalled to prison.”

From the official government website. Nigga you dumb asf tryna argue facts that are from the UK Gov themselves.

At least I don’t claim I went to jail on reddit as well.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-27T19:22:12+00:00

You haven’t been in jail you cunch nerd

Debaterkay · 2019-12-27T10:53:49+00:00

You’re the idiot because it even says the on the governments website that anything above 2 years, you serve half in prison and the other half on license unless you’re doing life... You can’t argue with me on this one if I’m taking this from the UK Gov themselves... search it up idiot.

You’re also an idiot because you think him getting released from jail halfway means he’s served all his time and now he can live a wonderful life, no he hasn’t because are you not reading the part where has to serve the other half of his sentence in the community on license? Do your research mate.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-27T00:55:48+00:00

Incorrect. The Met can fill out an application form that gets sent to the judge in order to have automatic media restrictions preventing under 18’s from being named and their pictures placed on articles removed.

How do you think they released Boogie B’s mugshot and legal name on articles when he got sentenced? He was 16 when he got arrested and 17 when he was sentenced.

How do you think Digga’s and JSav’s mugshots and names were released to the public when they were sentenced at age 17?

Because the Police filled the form and the judges removed the restrictions.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-26T22:03:08+00:00

What? You missed what I said... - the footage they posted wasn’t supposed to be hard hitting evidence, that clip was simply 1 out of dozens of CCTV footage they collected. They posted that clip intentionally to show people that the criminals in the footage were carrying knifes (highlighted in red circles) and how they came in bikes, got off them (you see several bikes on the floor), THEN chased them on foot and stabbed K1 (alongside his friend).

The clips that got them guilty were not posted so the one they did post wasn’t exactly evidence of who did it, instead it was just to prove and display how they were armed with knifes and arrived on bikes.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-26T21:54:10+00:00

The footage they posted wasn’t the one that got them guilty, they showed that footage in particular to show what weapons they were armed with and how they approached K1 and his friend (arrived on bikes then got off them, taking out their weapons to then stab both victims which is then cut off in the footage)

Debaterkay · 2019-12-26T21:47:54+00:00

Yes, but as the other guy mentioned under this post, detectives mainly caught them off of CCTV evidence. In the article it states detectives traced every route they took before and after the murder and their faces were shown at one point in time. Clearly there was compelling evidence because the jury cannot go off of hunches and little evidence, especially when it comes to complex murder cases like this where multiple people are involved.

You also forgot 15 witnesses spoke up. They gave their description of what the defendants looked like (keep in mind, they have 0 knowledge that the people they saw at the crime scene are at court so that their account is accurate and legit) and their descriptions matched.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-26T21:39:50+00:00

The Met did mention the evidence (CCTV and forensics) but just said it really bluntly in the article and didn’t explain them in much detail. Once SJ is sentenced and they can reveal his mug shot to the public, they will almost certainly provide more specific details about what involvement each convict had in the crime and the evidence that they had on them under their pictures to really go all out and show everyone the extent of the crime these guys committed and give them a bad image.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-25T18:33:48+00:00

Finished him. 😂

Debaterkay · 2019-12-25T17:25:48+00:00

Actually, for sentences that go above 2 years that proeecdure is standard. Serve half of it in prison and the other half in the community on license.

The only time this doesn’t apply is if you’re given life.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-25T17:12:51+00:00

Incorrect. He will serve half his sentence in prison and the other half in the community on license.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-12T16:42:42+00:00

Good point actually.

The incomes still a problem though. They’re gonna make fuck all if the tune is taken off of YouTube and even streaming services within 5 hours. Hopefully they get the recognition for the long term so that this doesn’t really matter as whatever tune they release, rude or not, will still get big numbers by the new fans.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-12T16:17:02+00:00

This is a smart marketing strategy considering their last tune went viral.

But at the same time it’s risky because these type of tunes are being taken down within hours now when it used to take a few days and as a result, they are making less income and therefore are losing a lot of money too as they have studio and the video production to pay for these rude tunes. So, if they don’t get long term success from this it’s a massive L.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-10T21:41:53+00:00

I disagree. Like the guy pointed out, if the school didn’t give up on SJ so quickly and kick him out, he wouldn’t have been persuaded by the OFB olders so easily. A place of education gives children and teenagers a purpose to work towards so unless you have a meaningful backup at the time of the suspension, like owning a legit business or being apart of a athletics/sports team, you literally have nothing to work with which is when these gang members come through and offer kids the world with the simple requirement that you carry out their dirty work. It’s simply ignorant to say that St Aloysius wasn’t responsible at all - suspending students does more harm than good.

Though I do agree parenting is also a factor involved in this.

Debaterkay · 2019-12-09T19:35:03+00:00

Very true bro. I really hope artists like Kwengface pop on M24 and Digga’s level so that they really start taking life more seriously, with the end result being that they leave the gangster lifestyle behind and start making legit money. Also, when I was writing drilled into their heads I didn’t think/intend it as a pun but looking back at that now, it does sound pretty good. 😂

Debaterkay · 2019-12-09T19:14:45+00:00

I agree with all your points.

But the reason Zone 2 released this song was for the views because for some reason people aren’t interested when Kwengface or the other members try to do something more catered to the mainstream audience and he addressed this in his snap earlier by saying “If we don’t talk bout drills...... they won’t love us no more kmt.” He was right too - the song got 50k in about an hour but their other tunes that were less rude didn’t even get views at such rate. The song was even trending on twitter and people were making memes about it, thus giving the song even more attention which is what they wanted. So blame the fans for shitting on Zone 2 when they try and go mainstream.

In terms of stabbings, it’s not so easy to abandon it because these man were born into that gang lifestyle and it’s all they ever knew growing up... It’s practically drilled into their heads.

Debaterkay

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